And next, Syria?
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teqniq
DisMembered
Alongside the impending attack on Idlib is an ongoing disinformation campaign involving the Russians and assisted by the likes of Vanessa Beeley that there will be a false flag chemical weapons attack involving the White Helmets. This is most likely preparatory to an actual attack by the regime. The trouble is with this is that the likes of Beeley can't get their story straight most probably because of insufficient knowledge of the regime's plans. Proper deluded shit anyway.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
foreign orders = JEWS
Patteran
A nowadays excuse
That's very good, 'culturalism/cultural determinism' - identity politics scaled up. Prompted me to dig out a piece I linked to a couple of years ago about regional imperial cartography, which I think also refers to an orientalism that suggests pluralism is ok for 'us' but impossible for 'them'. A suggestion that now seems to be in retreat - cultural determinism being applied to Fortress Europe & the US.
hash tag
Reaching out
Why can't people try and live in peace? 
Syria war: Russia rejects Turkey's calls for Idlib truce - Putin rejects calls for Idlib truce
Syria war: Russia rejects Turkey's calls for Idlib truce - Putin rejects calls for Idlib truce
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Drivel.Why can't people try and live in peace?
Syria war: Russia rejects Turkey's calls for Idlib truce - Putin rejects calls for Idlib truce
I fought against - against it happening, accepting it happening - but it's coming. Good death to all. Those who fight, victory.
not-bono-ever
meh
connected but weakly - the president of Abkhazia killed in a car wreck upon returning from a meet and greet with Assad.
ah well
ah well
teqniq
DisMembered
U.S. has seen evidence of Syria preparing chemical weapons in Idlib...
Meanwhile in a debate in the HOC today:
This is pretty much what I was concerned about on the Corbyn thread.
Note how much interest the debate generated:
but not everybody is buying the same bullshit that Thornberry evidently has.
Meanwhile in a debate in the HOC today:
This is pretty much what I was concerned about on the Corbyn thread.
Note how much interest the debate generated:
but not everybody is buying the same bullshit that Thornberry evidently has.
petee
no gods, no malarkey
idrees ahmad in the NYRB
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/09/07/how-assad-made-truth-a-casualty-of-war/
The incident was a turning point. It signaled the regime’s willingness to use deadly violence to thwart independent witness to its slaughter. Baba Amr would be the last time that the foreign press was able to infiltrate a siege and refute the regime’s propaganda claims. By eliminating independent reporting, the regime would successfully turn subsequent atrocities into cases of “he said, she said”—the regime’s word against the opposition’s, with audiences inclined to accept or reject them based on their political predilections. The regime’s (and later Russia’s) use of the “war on terror” tropes would resonate well with Western audiences, especially policy-makers and think-tankers. All Assad’s opponents would be declared “terrorists.”
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/09/07/how-assad-made-truth-a-casualty-of-war/
The incident was a turning point. It signaled the regime’s willingness to use deadly violence to thwart independent witness to its slaughter. Baba Amr would be the last time that the foreign press was able to infiltrate a siege and refute the regime’s propaganda claims. By eliminating independent reporting, the regime would successfully turn subsequent atrocities into cases of “he said, she said”—the regime’s word against the opposition’s, with audiences inclined to accept or reject them based on their political predilections. The regime’s (and later Russia’s) use of the “war on terror” tropes would resonate well with Western audiences, especially policy-makers and think-tankers. All Assad’s opponents would be declared “terrorists.”
rekil
to menny cranks
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
UN FINDS ASSAD REGIME RESPONSIBLE FOR 3 MORE CHEMICAL ATTACKS
The UN has now attributed responsibility to the Assad regime for 33 chemical attacks since the regime’s August 2013 sarin assault on East and West Ghouta, killing more than 1,400 people. The Islamic State has been blamed for six others.
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“To recapture eastern Ghouta in April, government forces launched numerous indiscriminate attacks in densely populated civilian areas, which included the use of chemical weapons,” it said, referring to incidents on Jan. 22 and Feb. 1 in a residential area of Douma, eastern Ghouta, outside the capital.
The UN has now attributed responsibility to the Assad regime for 33 chemical attacks since the regime’s August 2013 sarin assault on East and West Ghouta, killing more than 1,400 people. The Islamic State has been blamed for six others.
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“To recapture eastern Ghouta in April, government forces launched numerous indiscriminate attacks in densely populated civilian areas, which included the use of chemical weapons,” it said, referring to incidents on Jan. 22 and Feb. 1 in a residential area of Douma, eastern Ghouta, outside the capital.
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
Russia Reports Il-20M “Coot-A” Electronic Intelligence Aircraft Lost in Syria During Israeli Air Strike Near Latakia
Last night's Il-20M shootdown was a red-on-red. SyAAF shot it down by accident while Israeli Sufas were bombing Latakia harbour. The race (Russia vs France vs Israel vs USA) will be on to recover the wreckage from the bottom of the Med. Even the shattered remains of an ELINT bird would be a massive prize.
Last night's Il-20M shootdown was a red-on-red. SyAAF shot it down by accident while Israeli Sufas were bombing Latakia harbour. The race (Russia vs France vs Israel vs USA) will be on to recover the wreckage from the bottom of the Med. Even the shattered remains of an ELINT bird would be a massive prize.
Presumably using Russian supplied surface to air weaponry?
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
S-200/SA-5.
The Syrian radar was probably degraded by an Israeli G550 SEMA lurking offshore.
phillm
Trolling through Life (TM)
The Russians are giving the Syrians an upgrade in air defence.
After plane downed, Russia to give Syria advanced S-300 anti-aircraft system
phillm
Trolling through Life (TM)
hash tag
Reaching out
106 separately recorded and independently verified use of chemical weapons since the damning UN reports in 2014 How chemical weapons have helped Assad
BBC One - Panorama, Syria's Chemical War
BBC One - Panorama, Syria's Chemical War
rekil
to menny cranks
teqniq
DisMembered
It is difficult to understand what exactly the regime and for that matter Jordan hope to gain in this.
Plight of stranded Syrians worsens as food blocked | Reuters
Plight of stranded Syrians worsens as food blocked | Reuters
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Watch the shit start flying from the Russians, Iranians, Hezbollah, Syrians and their useful idiots outside of the country now:
Chemical weapons team to begin assigning blame for Syrian attacks
THE HAGUE (Reuters) - The global chemical weapons watchdog will in February begin to assign blame for attacks with banned munitions in Syria’s war, using new powers approved by member states but opposed by Damascus and its key allies Russia and Iran.
The agency was handed the new task in response to an upsurge in the use of chemical weapons in recent years, notably in the Syrian conflict, where scores of attacks with sarin and chlorine have been carried out by Syrian forces and rebel groups, according to a joint United Nations-OPCW investigation.
A core team of 10 experts charged with apportioning blame for poison gas attacks in Syria will be hired soon, Fernando Arias, the new head of the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), told the Foreign Press Association of the Netherlands on Tuesday.
The Syria team will be able to look into all attacks previously investigated by the OPCW, dating back to 2014.
Chemical weapons team to begin assigning blame for Syrian attacks
THE HAGUE (Reuters) - The global chemical weapons watchdog will in February begin to assign blame for attacks with banned munitions in Syria’s war, using new powers approved by member states but opposed by Damascus and its key allies Russia and Iran.
The agency was handed the new task in response to an upsurge in the use of chemical weapons in recent years, notably in the Syrian conflict, where scores of attacks with sarin and chlorine have been carried out by Syrian forces and rebel groups, according to a joint United Nations-OPCW investigation.
A core team of 10 experts charged with apportioning blame for poison gas attacks in Syria will be hired soon, Fernando Arias, the new head of the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), told the Foreign Press Association of the Netherlands on Tuesday.
The Syria team will be able to look into all attacks previously investigated by the OPCW, dating back to 2014.
likesfish
You can't park here sir
doesn't help if you have muppets pushing the button see the US military's patriot crews
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