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And next, Syria?

Feeling a bit torn on this "Beatles" shizz.

Would be happy enough for the Kurds to machine gun them to mincemeat if they're no good to get any information out of.

TBH I am amazed they didn't use this as one of those look how much that Corbyn loves those who hate us weekly debates; after all the point about whether or not to support their trial and possible execution is relatively moot given that the Yanks already have them and (presumably) the necessary evidence.

That said, some of the nonsense that came out during the debate today - that we shoot people who we are at war with so its a bit much to object to them being executed, for instance - did lend itself to believing that we are actively engaged in plotting these men's demise.
 
This will be going on for years yet - tens of thousands of people the regime have disappeared - good old anti-imperialism:

Families of Syria’s disappeared scramble for answers as government quietly closes thousands of detention files

For most families, learning of loved-ones’ deaths is the first news they have heard in years. And yet others are still waiting.

Wafa al-Ayoubi’s 21-year-old son, Mohammad, left their family home in Damascus one morning in 2014 and never came back. After five days of frantic searching by al-Ayoubi and other family members, security forces raided the house—with Mohammad in tow—as they searched the premises for supposedly incriminating evidence. The memory of his face, almost unrecognizable from torture, has haunted her ever since.

“I saw my son with my own eyes after he was disfigured and tortured when they raided our house,” she says. “That was from five days of torture… after six years, how does he live? What have they done to him?”

‘Turning the page’

Ordinarily, families, in the company of witnesses, update civil registry status—not the government itself. The changing of records reflects a significant change in policy.

Lama Fakih, deputy director of Human Rights Watch (HRW) for the Middle East, says it amounts to an effort by the Syrian government “to try and turn the page in a very superficial way,” by closing files in a bid to avoid culpability for likely crimes against humanity.
 
Some of my Syrian friends on Facebook are saying that Asma al-Assad has been diagnosed with Stage 1 breast cancer. Photos of her and Bashar smiling and gazing lovingly at each other. I doubt any pain she goes through will be one millionth of the pain her husband has inflicted on hundreds and thousands of people.
 
Assad Regime to Soon Confirm Deaths of 10,000s in Detention — Report

But the actual number of dead will exceed even these tens of thousands, as the notifications only cover “formal” detentions. Thousands who died in the various security branches under interrogation are not included: “The numbers do not account for torture casualties. As far as I know, those die within a week of detention in security branches.”

Estimating the total of detainees since 2011 at more than 100,000, the source says he is “extremely doubtful” that many will emerge alive, noting that the majority were peaceful protesters and media activists.
 
Here's the C4 report on how these tortures and murders were both ordered from, directed and so obv known about - from above. A good piece (despite rubbish about 'hopes of justice') on something that i don't really see many other mainstream sources picking up on - maybe the murder and torture of 10s of 1000s of people just isn't that sexy no more:

 
Assad "I will verify" ... "It's not policy"... they'll take Idlib by the end of the year and the next phase of the slaughter can begin. But for Assad maybe finally defeating the revolution completely, everywhere, will also be his undoing... wishful thinking i know but his raison d'etre for the last 7 years has been the bulwark against "terrorism" ... so what does he do once the war is over?
 
A piece here raises some questions Starting to understand the Syrian tragedy

From my experience in the UK, I would say that even most “left” organisations and tendencies that did not go to the extreme of supporting (or “defending”) Assad and Putin took no steps to work together with Syrian revolutionaries. They did not regard Syrian people as actors struggling to determine their own fate. Appeals for solidarity action were considered, or ignored, on narrow political grounds. The Syrian revolution was somehow alien, something from which “we” (the “left”) had no need of, something that could offer “us” nothing.

Not everyone in Europe was indifferent. The “left” for whom the Syrian revolution was just an occasion for more sloganising was overshadowed, on one side, by the many people – from whatever political background – who sought ways to support refugees, many but not all from Syria, who arrived in Europe in record numbers in 2016 especially. On the other side the “left” was outpaced by young people – including some from anarchist and autonomist milieux – who went to fight alongside Kurdish organisations in northern Syria. (An important discussion has begun on the politics of the Kurdish parties, their relationship to social movements, and the lessons from these actions, which I will not comment on here.)

What could the Western left have done that the Middle Eastern left couldn't?
There were myriads of groups speaking for the Syrian revolution.

The Syrian revolution was somehow alien, something from which “we” (the “left”) had no need of, something that could offer “us” nothing.

The left in the West was faced with all sorts of calls for all manner of activity from demanding NATO governments to open a direct military front on the regime to demanding Western economic sanctions on Russia, China and whoever else continued recognition of the regime.

young people – including some from anarchist and autonomist milieux – who went to fight alongside Kurdish organisations in northern Syria.

Those who went - for god or ill - traded anarchist and autonomist for nationalism, which they had no control over at the mercy of nationalist forces in a nationalist war. Malatesta criticised Italian volunteers doing the same thing for nationalist causes in Crete amongst others.
 
The 'Rebel Tent' at Beautiful Days Festival'.

LINE-UP | Beautiful Days

THE REBEL TENT – DISCUSSIONS, TALKS, PANELS AND Q&A INCLUDING: ‘THE USA VS ME’ WITH LAURI LOVE | ‘CORBYN, PALESTINE AND LABOUR’ WITH JACKIE WALKER & LEAH LEVANE | ’21ST CENTURY SOCIALISM IN VENEZUELA’ WITH TERESA TERAN | ‘THE GLOBAL BATTLE FOR LGBT RIGHTS’ WITH PETER TATCHELL | ‘WAR, MEDIA AND PROPAGANDA’ WITH PETER FORD, VANESSA BEELEY, PATRICK HENINGSEN &R PIERS ROBINSON | ‘THE NEW COLD WAR’ WITH CRAIG MURRAY | ‘SYRIA – WHAT IS TO BE DONE?’ WITH PETER TATCHELL, PETER FORD, VANESSA BEELEY & HILARY WAINWRIGHT | ‘A NEW POLITICS FROM THE LEFT’ WITH HILARY WAINWRIGHT, RACHEL SHABI, ALEX NUNNS, CHRIS WILLIAMSON MP | ‘HUMAN IMPACT ON CLIMATE CHANGE’ WITH PIERS CORBYN & RICHARD BETTS | FLAMIN WET GURUS | MARK CHADWICK | THE CHALK OUTLINES | DIGGA RANKS | LEVITICUS DJS
 
What a line-up, ffs. Anyone seen anything bringing who they're sharing a platform with to the attention of Wainwright or Tatchell?
Tatchell knew and has indeed long been vocal against her/them, so don't know what on earth he was doing - no matter how hostile to them he was on the day. Her ladyship probably doesn't bother with real politics and that now, just writing crap about utopia. Note also friendly with holocaust denier Piers Corbyn attendance. Surprised that hasn't been picked up more widely.
 
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Beeley put up a vid of Tatchell v Peter Ford who lest we forget is the director of Assad's father in law's British Syrian Society. I prefer not to link to it here. The dipshit moderator nods along with everything Ford says and eventually gangs up on Tatchell. The last 5 mins is a loon shouting about Beeley and Bartlett being "on the ground", ordering Tatchell to "go on 21st century wire", claiming that a million people have returned to Aleppo etc. Farce. It looks and sounds like there was about 25 people there.
 
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RT reporting that a staged chemical attack is being prepared by rebels in Damascus. Reminds me of someone down the pub getting the excuses for their pissed knobhead mate in early.
 
It's all going potentially to shit for the poor people in Idlib province.

Idlib on 'knife’s edge' as Syrian government prepares for an assault: Experts

A post from a Facebook friend:



I lived 25 years before revolution and eight during revolution. I wouldn't replace a moment of Freedom that I am living with 100 year life without freedom. Although I was diplaced from my homeland Aleppo, I will stand with my people here in Idlib till the last moment of my life. We've reached the limits of the world and the only door we might go through next is the door to heaven. My loyal and patient wife, my lovely daughter Lamar and I are here on this piece of land as a voice and as a reminder of millions of souls who long for peace and freedom. We sought Freedom here. We get it or another generation would visit our graves telling us that they could make it.

My heart is breaking for them.
 
Two pieces with & by Yassin Al Haj Saleh - veteran dissident, long term political prisoner, currently exiled in Istanbul, & quoted on this thread previously by butchersapron (i think)

One via Robin Yassin Kassab - Yassin al-Haj Saleh on the Syrian Majority

And another from The Intercept - Syria’s “Voice of Conscience” Has a Message for the West
Major new interview - well timed i suppose as the vultures gather - samples below:

Dissidents of the left: In conversation with Yassin al-Haj Saleh

Andy Heintz: What are your thoughts on Trump’s foreign policy approach to Syria?

Yassin al-Haj Saleh: I don’t see any difference in vision between Trump and Obama. Both men prioritize the War on Terror over any political or ethical issues related to the Syrian people’s political struggle for freedom, change, and justice. The Americans are playing an extremely nasty role in the northwestern part of the country. In a way, they are preparing a future of massacres and ethnic struggles in the region. The region is composed of Arabs and Kurds. The United States is following the traditional colonial formula of relying on the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), which is the Democratic Union Party (PYD), which is the Kurdistan Worker’s Party (PKK). The SDF is dealing very disrespectfully with the local population. They are relegating the local population to invisibility and it is the same logic that the people experienced under the Assad regime. The new occupying powers are imposing their rigid, dictatorial one-party system with their personality cult of [militant Kurdish leader Abdullah] Ocalan and completely ignoring the struggle for freedom and change that happened before them. It is as if our history begins now. It is the colonial thing and business as usual.

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Heintz: Can you talk about the need to see the situation in Syria (and the Middle East in general) in a political and historical context, as opposed to a cultural one?

Al-Haj Saleh: I see Culturalism (or cultural determinism) as a plague that struck the studies of politics and societies of the Middle East; the Arab countries in particular. It offers a lazy explanation to the social and political dynamics of our societies by resorting to supposedly clear notions like Islam, Islamic civilization, fundamentalism, Sunni, Shia, and the like. In a mysterious way, it is thought that we can be defined, and our practices analyzed, by reducing them to “culture” the way economistic determinism explained these very phenomena a few decades ago. In Syria and the Arab world, the culturalist approach was prosperous before the revolutions and its proponents are now optimistic again after the debacle the revolutions suffered from. But while economism was translated politically into populist or developmentarian nationalism, the political translation of culturalism is elitism and neo-fascism, à la the Bashar al-Assad model.
 
On that culturalism, or left-orientalism:

Left-Wing Orientalism: The Curious Case of Patrick Cockburn

But Cockburn sees demography as destiny: in his reading, the Syrian crisis is “intractable” because of the sectarian composition of the society. It’s necessarily a zero-sum game, in his view. Because “power in Syria is distributed along sectarian lines”, he reasons, “democracy in Syria means a loss of power for the Alawites and their allies and a gain for the Sunni”. Democracy is thus a recipe for disaster. There is no alternative, to quote Margaret Thatcher, to dictatorship — at least in the Middle East
 
someone on leftbook said that Idrees Ahmad is an anti-semitic conspiracy theorist and part of the red brown muck, are they confusing him with nafeez ahmed?

all i can find is this flirtation with the israel lobby thesis. i wonder if he has recanted.
https://www.criticalmuslim.io/muslim-anti-semitism/
Didn’t get *any* lunacy from him and I have followed him a fair bit on twitter, etc. But I may have less hours to take everything in so might have missed it!
 
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