Anarchism. 'Organisation'? 'Leadership'?
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So that means that those who are willing to make the decisions in, say, banking deserve their multi-million pound bonuses just because of that willingness (which has been of such benefit to the world recently)?
And office workers should be paid less than they currently are because teachers and nurses should be paid more?
Please don't ever stand for Parliament.
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"Anarchy rules! But it's about a lot more than just lobbing things at police. It's more often used now as a jibe against someone who throws something at a protest, but anarchism has a long, complex history, and it's never really gone away."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/dec/18/suzanne-moore-anarchy
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/dec/18/suzanne-moore-anarchy
Coming for someone who recently said something along the lines that social housing and social welfare isn't such a big deal.
What she fails to realise is, that for most people, work is always going to be mundane and routine, even for those in 'white collar' jobs that once upon a time had at least some perks involved. Those too are being eroded.
That don't make sense
Work is always mundane, even the best jobs, that's why you get fucking paid
So what? Want more from it then make an effort, just wanna get paid then fair enough. But to go on about how hard it is having no power or control in your work life sounds fuckin lame. Get some or get another job if your arsed. What do you do? Office work?
I never said just me, did I? Just fuck off you clueless druggie moron.
Blagsta
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That don't make sense
Work is always mundane, even the best jobs, that's why you get fucking paid
It really ain't that easy for most people.
If people just closed their eyes, and wished hard enough ...
Well I'm talking about you, Captain Hurrah. You brought yourself up talking about how powerless you feel with your management and how you want to shoot there feet. I just don't have much time for people with these weird victim complexes who don't say or do owt. Take control FFS.
Lol at clueless druggie moron
Tory crackhead wife is better.It really is. Loads of people become self employed every day for the reason they don't wanna work for someone else.
Well I'm talking about you, Captain Hurrah. You brought yourself up talking about how powerless you feel with your management and how you want to shoot there feet. I just don't have much time for people with these weird victim complexes who don't say or do owt. Take control FFS.
Lol at clueless druggie moron
Stop whinging. Blasgsta can counsel you.
It's about all people. Should work be meaningful, useful, and fulfilling, or should it be mere toil with those who work having little or no say over any of it, and little in the way of enjoying the fruits of such a thing?
little_legs
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This is an interesting thread. Thank you, folks. I confess I never read threads with the word 'anarchism' in their title. That's mainly due to the fact that I don't fully understand the rationale behind anarchism and have never heard of a community/society/country functioning as an anarchy. Of course, I could be wrong about the latter purely due to my ignorance. It has been mentioned earlier on the thread that anarchism and communism are similar. Is this because neither is achieveable? I ask because in my limited understanding both are utopias. What I mean is that a community/society is bound to have disagreements and then what? what are they to do with those who don't go along with the majority? Reform them? or punish them? or kick them out? and who decides which way is fair?
I have to say that I largely agree with what LLETSA and Captain Hurrah have said. Incidentally, I think (I could be wrong) LLETSA is referring to BBC's reports by Paul Moss, I found the Belarus interviews also a bit pathetic. Captain Hurrah, have you ever considered FCO or British Council? Or they don't interest you?
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I have to say that I largely agree with what LLETSA and Captain Hurrah have said. Incidentally, I think (I could be wrong) LLETSA is referring to BBC's reports by Paul Moss, I found the Belarus interviews also a bit pathetic. Captain Hurrah, have you ever considered FCO or British Council? Or they don't interest you?
*must read all threads*
Blagsta
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How many new businesses fail? Not to mention that not everyone has access to the necessary capital. You're the fantasist here.
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Good stuff, yield. Thank you.
More than one in 10 of us are. Not hard to get a trade or skill where you can be. Just some people like being told what to do *shrugs*
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LLETSA I don't watch oprah, so you tell me.
Have you ever thought about setting yourself up as a life coach instead of confining your skills to dispensing simple minded 'advice' on here?
It doesn't matter if you watch Oprah or not, it's still Oprah-speak. What does 'take control of your life' actually mean for a start? You'll be using the word empower next.
I think it probably was one of the same reports-I just turned the news on one evening and there it was. After all the experience of the 'colour' revolutions in the Soviet bloc being nothing other than swapping one bunch of gangsters for another, and still they're playing the game, expecting it to come right and the 'free-market' to suddenly flourish.
Blagsta
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Dunno why link don't work. It shows more than 1 in 10 people are self employed.
Jesus it really ain't hard to be self employed
Lletsa if you want life coaching I charge £50 an hour over skype
It's got fuck all to do with "a self organised anarchist future". This is about access to capital - most people don't have it.
I thought it was about working for ourselves instead of making a tiny percentage of the population richer. Is capital another word for money right? The more money people earn for themselves and don't give to the fuckin government to line there mates pockets the better. We earn it, they tax it, then they give it to there school mates via big contracts. Fuck em.
Dunno why link don't work. It shows more than 1 in 10 people are self employed.
Jesus it really ain't hard to be self employed
Lletsa if you want life coaching I charge £50 an hour over skype
How do you know if it's hard or not being self-employed? And as if it's the answer to what CH was saying anyway. Most self-employment amounts to sinking all your savings into buying yourself a life no less mundane but usually more stressful than your old one-or going deeply into debt for the privilege of having no leisure time and no way out of the situation. The plumber we use says it's the worst move he ever made. (Luckily he's a good plumber.)
And as Blagsta says, most small businesses fail quickly even when you do all your homework. It's a complete lottery.
Blagsta
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Right, you don't use hospitals, schools, roads, libraries, street lights etc?
Before dishing out advice on how to live, perhaps it would be an idea to learn how to construct better sentences than 'is capital another word for money right?' and learning the difference between their and there.
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