Abortion deleted from UK Government-organised international human rights statement

[Santino]

Life is hard when people don’t agree with everything you say.

Fuck off 8ball, you irredeemable misogynist.

 

[kalidarkone]

I mean it is something to be taken seriously, but there are plenty of circumstances where I’d agree it’s clearly the best route.

I’m not saying anyone should beat themselves up but I’d wonder about someone who took the decision totally casually.

Im a 52 yr old woman, aside from a lifetime of female friends that have had abortions, I've worked with teenage parents, I've worked in obstetrics and gynaecology and currently recover post op surgical abortion patients and I've NEVER met anyone that has made that decision casually, whatever the reason behind terminating the pregnancy.

 

[SpineyNorman]

Ooh, keep going, I've nearly got a line on my card.

You are such a sad, pathetic wanker.

 

[kalidarkone]

8ball what's your experience of someone casually making the decision to terminate a pregnancy? Please don't confuse this with someone making the decision quickly or knowing they would terminate in the event of becoming pregnant.

Being resigned to a course of action and be prepared to live with the consequences is not in any way being casual.

Popping a pimple is casual.

Do you think there is such thing as a casual vasectomy?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Ignoring oddball's crap, the whole anti-abortion schtick seems to be born from religious nutjobbery to start with and as such should be ignored. Whenever I hear someone (a man, always a man) going on about it I steer the convo toward child support, with a starting point of 50% of the absent father's salary taken at source, per child.

 

[8ball]

8ball what's your experience of someone casually making the decision to terminate a pregnancy? Please don't confuse this with someone making the decision quickly or knowing they would terminate in the event of becoming pregnant.

Being resigned to a course of action and be prepared to live with the consequences is not in any way being casual.

Popping a pimple is casual.

Do you think there is such thing as a casual vasectomy?

See thread.

 

[8ball]

You are such a sad, pathetic wanker.

And you are a pointless cunt.

 

[8ball]

L

Fuck off 8ball, you irredeemable misogynist.

Has to be taken as a compliment coming from you.

<shudders>

 

[SpineyNorman]

And you are a worthless cunt.

Haven't you got a sock to wank into or something?

 

[8ball]

It's a gynaecological procedure. Sometimes it's just a pill. It doesn't require much thought.

Men are funny, aren't they?

See thread.

 

[cloudyday]

Haven't you got a sock to wank into or something?

A few dozen unborn children limply expelled into a manky Donnay.

 

[Flavour]

8ball doing his (note his) best to ruin a thread about a threat to abortion rights with musings on whether some women have abortions "casually" ... great stuff.

 

[mentalchik]

and he still hasn't explained what the difference is if the abortion is had 'casually'

i have known someone that kinda used abortion a bit like contraception...possibly a bit lacking in contraceptive self responsibilty but so what...better than unwanted kids at the end

 

[Ax^]

Hope this helps:

Unborn Child

Definition of Unborn Child in the Medical Dictionary by The Free Dictionary

medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com

seriously

cunt

 

[Ax^]

and of course he known well informed pro lifers who know more than average people

seriously the laser focused whataboutism from the fella on every thread
about abortion is getting fucking old

 

[WhyLikeThis]

Yanky Republicans that are in the pocket of Putin have played a major role in resurrecting this issue. Promoting divisive politics is part of the standard playbook. They’re barely hiding the tactic…

 

[Ax^]

maybe its only because ireland had the arguement in 2018
and it still not been settled

but the forces that still control or try to control abortion access to women
has never really disappeared

jebus we had men out in capes defending being pro life

 

[two sheds]

Yanky Republicans that are in the pocket of Putin have played a major role in resurrecting this issue. Promoting divisive politics is part of the standard playbook. They’re barely hiding the tactic…

That's Flat Earth level delusion

 

[teqniq]

Yanky Republicans that are in the pocket of Putin have played a major role in resurrecting this issue. Promoting divisive politics is part of the standard playbook. They’re barely hiding the tactic…

Do they actually believe the shit they come out with?

 

[Dystopiary]

Yanky Republicans that are in the pocket of Putin have played a major role in resurrecting this issue. Promoting divisive politics is part of the standard playbook. They’re barely hiding the tactic…

"Natural selection! Only the very, very best will be left."

Literal nazi-speak.

 

[8ball]

"Natural selection! Only the very, very best will be left."

Literal nazi-speak.

All this because the West and America "have stopped breeding".

Thus, natural selection renders them more fearsome than ever.



Perhaps there's an issue with the translation.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Yanky Republicans that are in the pocket of Putin have played a major role in resurrecting this issue. Promoting divisive politics is part of the standard playbook. They’re barely hiding the tactic…

The Russian population has been nosediving for years. Doesn't help that male life expectancy is desperately low for a supposedly developed nation.

 

[sheothebudworths]

Apologies if it's been posted already (didn't look like a thread I wanted to read through closely, on a brief skim) -

Senior Tory urges Liz Truss to explain deletion of abortion rights from statement

Exclusive: Equalities committee chair Caroline Nokes joins international outcry after UK dilutes commitment to women’s rights without consultation

www.theguardian.com

 

[teqniq]

I did not know this. Abortion in the UK is still technically a criminal offence and the police can choose to prosecute:

Abortion Is More Under Threat In Britain Than You Think

Abortion should be a human right in Britain. It isn’t.

www.refinery29.com

Just seen this:

Think abortion is legal in Great Britain? Ask the two women currently facing life sentences | Charlotte Proudman

Vulnerable women are being imprisoned for ending pregnancies in Britain. It’s time to legalise abortion, says barrister Charlotte Proudman

www.theguardian.com

Fucking madness.

 

[kalidarkone]

Just seen this:

Think abortion is legal in Great Britain? Ask the two women currently facing life sentences | Charlotte Proudman

Vulnerable women are being imprisoned for ending pregnancies in Britain. It’s time to legalise abortion, says barrister Charlotte Proudman

www.theguardian.com

Fucking madness.

Just to clarify that abortion is only illegal after 24 weeks in England, Wales and Scotland. An legal Abortion after 24 weeks is only permitted if continuing the pregnancy would be unsafe and a threat to the mothers life or if the child would be severely disabled....and this has to be decided by two doctors.

 

[two sheds]

The attacks seeming to be stepped up

Anti-choice Christians in Parliament launch triple attack on abortion rights

Anti-choice groups have expressed delight at the introduction of three new Bills in the House of Lords that would potentially restrict women’s ability to have legal abortions in the United Kingdom. The Bills’ titles, which include ‘Foetal Sentience’, ‘Gestational Time Limit Reduction’, and...

humanists.uk

Anti-choice groups have expressed delight at the introduction of three new Bills in the House of Lords that would potentially restrict women’s ability to have legal abortions in the United Kingdom.

The Bills’ titles, which include ‘Foetal Sentience’, ‘Gestational Time Limit Reduction’, and ‘Early Medical Home Abortion (Review)’, all give clear indications that they are targeting existing legal rights which women depend on in England and Wales.