Amber Rudd resigns and then returns (and resigns again)
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They're really desperate for TM to stay aren't they? If she resigns then what? They can't have yet another unelected PM surely
I wonder how many letters regarding a lack of confidence in May are building up in Graham Brady’s in-tray lately?
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I don't think she's going to resign, but if she did - sure they can.They're really desperate for TM to stay aren't they? If she resigns then what? They can't have yet another unelected PM surely
From The Guardian, the starters in this sordid race:
"Sajid Javid, communities and local government secretary
Javid is the favourite for the job and is already being tipped by Tory MPs. The timing could not be better from his perspective; he was on the front of the Sunday Telegraph talking about his personal anger over the treatment of the Windrush migrants, saying: “I thought that could be my mum ... my dad ... my uncle ... it could be me.” Having backed remain, Javid would keep the balance in the top jobs, though he has made it clear since the referendum he is sceptical of softer Brexit options such as remaining in the customs union.
Michael Gove, environment secretary
Gove has courted the spotlight since his return to the cabinet table, with a series of eye-catching environmental policies, including a well-publicised war on plastics. However, the key test will be whether his personal relationship with May has mended, since the two clashed during the coalition government in a furious briefing war over her performance at the Home Office when she was home secretary. Were he to get the job, it is likely to re-ignite tensions over the anti-immigration messages of the Vote Leave campaign.
Jeremy Hunt, health secretary
Hunt made it clear at the last cabinet reshuffle that he did not want to leave the Department of Health. When May attempted to move him to Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, he convinced her to keep him in post. However, the Home Office is certainly a bigger draw and it could be the promotion to tempt him, perhaps even paving the way for an eventual run at the top job.
David Lidington, minister for the Cabinet Office
Lidington is only just settling in at the Cabinet Office, replacing May’s old friend Damian Green who was sacked for making misleading statements about pornography found on his office computer. In Rudd, May has lost another ally that she trusted and confidants are now getting fewer by the day in the cabinet, so Lidington could get the role if May believes the priority should be a safe pair of hands.
James Brokenshire, the former Home Office minister and Northern Ireland secretary who left the cabinet due to ill health, also fits that bill.
Karen Bradley, Northern Ireland secretary
Bradley worked under May at the Home Office, giving her direct experience of the complexities of the department. The former culture secretary was moved to Northern Ireland in the latest reshuffle, currently one of the most difficult jobs in government due to Brexit tensions over the Irish border and the collapse of devolved government in Belfast. Appointing Bradley would also mean keeping the 50/50 balance of men and women in the four great offices of state.
Wild cards: Dominic Grieve or Nicky Morgan
They are unlikely appointments, but both are capable and experienced former cabinet ministers. To appoint either of them would strip the pro-remain rebels in parliament of a key voice. Both, however, may find the compromise too much, and there is mutual animosity between May and Morgan after a fallout last year over a pair of leather trousers worn by May."
Place yer bets. I suspect from this safe distance that the real losers will be none of the above.
"Sajid Javid, communities and local government secretary
Javid is the favourite for the job and is already being tipped by Tory MPs. The timing could not be better from his perspective; he was on the front of the Sunday Telegraph talking about his personal anger over the treatment of the Windrush migrants, saying: “I thought that could be my mum ... my dad ... my uncle ... it could be me.” Having backed remain, Javid would keep the balance in the top jobs, though he has made it clear since the referendum he is sceptical of softer Brexit options such as remaining in the customs union.
Michael Gove, environment secretary
Gove has courted the spotlight since his return to the cabinet table, with a series of eye-catching environmental policies, including a well-publicised war on plastics. However, the key test will be whether his personal relationship with May has mended, since the two clashed during the coalition government in a furious briefing war over her performance at the Home Office when she was home secretary. Were he to get the job, it is likely to re-ignite tensions over the anti-immigration messages of the Vote Leave campaign.
Jeremy Hunt, health secretary
Hunt made it clear at the last cabinet reshuffle that he did not want to leave the Department of Health. When May attempted to move him to Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, he convinced her to keep him in post. However, the Home Office is certainly a bigger draw and it could be the promotion to tempt him, perhaps even paving the way for an eventual run at the top job.
David Lidington, minister for the Cabinet Office
Lidington is only just settling in at the Cabinet Office, replacing May’s old friend Damian Green who was sacked for making misleading statements about pornography found on his office computer. In Rudd, May has lost another ally that she trusted and confidants are now getting fewer by the day in the cabinet, so Lidington could get the role if May believes the priority should be a safe pair of hands.
James Brokenshire, the former Home Office minister and Northern Ireland secretary who left the cabinet due to ill health, also fits that bill.
Karen Bradley, Northern Ireland secretary
Bradley worked under May at the Home Office, giving her direct experience of the complexities of the department. The former culture secretary was moved to Northern Ireland in the latest reshuffle, currently one of the most difficult jobs in government due to Brexit tensions over the Irish border and the collapse of devolved government in Belfast. Appointing Bradley would also mean keeping the 50/50 balance of men and women in the four great offices of state.
Wild cards: Dominic Grieve or Nicky Morgan
They are unlikely appointments, but both are capable and experienced former cabinet ministers. To appoint either of them would strip the pro-remain rebels in parliament of a key voice. Both, however, may find the compromise too much, and there is mutual animosity between May and Morgan after a fallout last year over a pair of leather trousers worn by May."
Place yer bets. I suspect from this safe distance that the real losers will be none of the above.
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the real losers are us, the electorate, no matter which of this shower is home secretary
and it's not like we were winners with any home secretary i can recall.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Gove is far too right-wing, anti-immigrant, and hardnose brexiteer. She still needs someone who will protest her as well, and carry on her work, which Gove wouldn't. Javid or a surprise, imo
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Javid and his massive head.
Does this make him head boy?
Does this make him head boy?
I'd prefer Gove to stay where he is (well I'd prefer for him to go over Beachy Head but that option is currently unavailable). It is somewhat refreshing to have an environment minister who is at least pretending to give the tiniest shit about the environment. Plus I think UK farming is heading for a massive clusterfuck when we limp out of the EU and as one of the main cheer leaders for this he should be the one to fix it.
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head sontaran
hash tag
Reaching out
Crikey, it's Javid Sajid Javid named as Home Secretary after Amber Rudd quit the role
It was always going to be. Its quite clear that the tories are very concerned that being a bunch of racists with openly racist policies is making them look a bit racist.
Nine Bob Note
Self-Isolating before it was fashionable
I hope his papers are in order...
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
She's not going to resign, but that's just as well, because nobody with any hope to be a proper Tory leader would want to sup from the poisoned chalice she suddenly found herself holding when the music stopped. It'd probably go to some headbanger like Grayling.They're really desperate for TM to stay aren't they? If she resigns then what? They can't have yet another unelected PM surely
bendeus
Bellend Tagline Generator
I have spoken to three people recently, all friends, all left wing Gove haters and all senior bods in, respectively, Natural England, Defra and the Environment Agency.
All three of them, through gritted teeth, confirmed the same. That Gove does appear to give a shit about both the environment and his portfolio, that he gets things done and that he is light years ahead of any of his predecessors in recent times. They also felt that he was willing to listen to expert advice and was respectful in the manner in which he did. They all felt soiled for saying so (I feel fairly soiled for passing it on) but there you are.
bemused
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Not sure why you say optics?
Out of the two of them, Javid has more experience getting stuff done that Gove.
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gove can of course look back on the brexit result with some satisfaction.
bemused
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He dropped the opposition to bans of some treatments by the EU. Although I wouldn't put it past him to just be seen as more cuddly.
bemused
Well-Known Member
By why is not selecting him as HS 'optics'?
TheHoodedClaw
acknowledging ur soup leg
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Starry Wisdom
the chances of lammy walking into parliament with a shotgun are zero.
michael kenneth williams would make a much better mp than the lamentable lammy.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
he might whistle 'a-hunting we will go' tho eh
I have been pondering that all morning, and I wonder if I'm being a bit racist. Javid is a mediocrity though, and there's little doubt in my mind that part of the reason he's been chosen is because it's useful to have a BME MP dealing with this particular clusterfuck.
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he's not a mediocrity, he's much worse than mediocre.
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not sure lammy can whistle.
bemused
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I just to like Lammy, he's turned in a bit of a tit.
bemused
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He's had a string of back room Jonny type jobs - be interesting to see what he doest with a real post.
edit: oops
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