david cameron's time is up again

[The39thStep]

Doubt if a political correspondent would say this , these days

 

[redcogs]

Time to dig out the pitchforks and pykes!

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

We do not elect the Primer Minister. We elect the MPs who choose the Prime Minister.

No we don't.

 

[cupid_stunt]

I thought they chose Truss?

No. Truss came second in the MP's vote, but was chosen by the membership.

 

[Pickman's model]

Doubt if a political correspondent would say this , these days

not playing the video as at work but wonder why he's talking to a tree

 

[oryx]

Even so, was pretty fucking quick, does Sunak have Charlie on speed-dial for emergency ennobling or something?

That's what I meant. I know you can get fast-tracked for just about anything these days - money talks, who you know, etc etc. Foreign Secretary via a seemingly emergency elevation to the House of Lords is a bit different from chucking a bit of money at Virgin Airlines so you don't queue for boarding with the oiks, though.

(ETA I'm not suggesting bribery here!)

But surely for the sake of looking credible, there must be checks and balances, approval by A Committee or summat?

Not that I am suggesting that, within the farce that passes for our political system, he wouldn't have passed said checks, balances and committee, or whatever, just that appointing someone on the (admittedly almost certainly right) assumption that they'll be in the Lords in a few days seems odd.

 

[PR1Berske]

No we don't.

The Prime Minister is the leader of the political party with the most seats. They are the MP for one constituency, so only their constituents vote for them.

 

[nino_savatte]

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

The Prime Minister is the leader of the political party with the most seats. They are the MP for one constituency, so only their constituents vote for them.

We know. Well, most of us do anyways.

 

[Pickman's model]

The Prime Minister is the leader of the political party with the most seats. They are the MP for one constituency, so only their constituents vote for them.

i think you'll find the monarch invites the leader of the party with the most seats to form an administration.

 

[A380]

 

[Serge Forward]

You know it was some time before I realised TT was not talking about an Iranian monarch.

 

[klang]

Are we gonna get a Bigger Society?

 

[tim]

Was going to say, Foreign Secretary sitting in the Lords feels very 1850s.

Lord Carrington was foreigning it back in the 1980's. Later on he tried to bring peace to the Balkans from his office in Sotherby's.

 

[platinumsage]

That's what I meant. I know you can get fast-tracked for just about anything these days - money talks, who you know, etc etc. Foreign Secretary via a seemingly emergency elevation to the House of Lords is a bit different from chucking a bit of money at Virgin Airlines so you don't queue for boarding with the oiks, though.

(ETA I'm not suggesting bribery here!)

But surely for the sake of looking credible, there must be checks and balances, approval by A Committee or summat?

Not that I am suggesting that, within the farce that passes for our political system, he wouldn't have passed said checks, balances and committee, or whatever, just that appointing someone on the (admittedly almost certainly right) assumption that they'll be in the Lords in a few days seems odd.

He doesn’t need to be appointed to the Lords to become a minister, that’s merely a convention. All he needs is the seal of office from the King.

Patrick Gordon-Walker was appointed Foreign Secretary after the 1964 general election despite not being in the Lords or Commons. He remained a minister for several months until failing to secure a commons seat in a 1965 by-election whereafter he resigned.

 

[Raheem]

It must be brilliant being someone who, when you occasionally pop up in the news, everybody in the country cracks a joke about pigs.

 

[tim]

I really don't get this. It's certainly going to piss off the brectums, and I can't see remainers being particularly happy with Cameron. Who is it supposed to appeal to?

Liberal Tories who are tempted by Starmer but think he's a bit too Right-wing.

 

[redcogs]

That's what I meant. I know you can get fast-tracked for just about anything these days - money talks, who you know, etc etc. Foreign Secretary via a seemingly emergency elevation to the House of Lords is a bit different from chucking a bit of money at Virgin Airlines so you don't queue for boarding with the oiks, though.

It is so true, especially the money talking bit. True enough its always happened, but i sense its getting worse and worse. Where i stay in the sticks there is an old listed building (protected by legislation for years) which actually prevented anyone purchasing it, despite its desirability due to its elevated spectacular view location. A few weeks ago it was demolished, virtually overnight. Turns out some local bigwhig has purchased it, with no planning related 'obstacles', and is already cracking on building something else on the same site. This is a petty example i know, but it illustrates the wider issue. Such practices seem to have become a commonplace. The wealthy well connected few call all the shots with impunity. And, as a consequence, their arrogance increases as each day passes. Ordinary folk with ordinary working lives are getting shafted more and more. Lords and Serfs here we come. Anyone want to buy a parliamentary seat?

 

[klang]

If churchill wouldnt have sported a mohawk on june 18th they'd wheel him out too.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Good appointment; he's got a track record of getting himself well in with the heads of foreign bodies and achieving a measure of satisfaction.

I doff my cap - clearly you spent a few hours knocking that one into perfect shape

 

[Santino]

I doff my cap - clearly you spent a few hours knocking that one into perfect shape

Yes. He could have made a right pig's ear out of it.

 

[not a trot]

not playing the video as at work but wonder why he's talking to a tree

Clint Eastwood fan.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Yes. He could have made a right pig's ear out of it.

Something something sow's ya father something

 

[stavros]

Was going to say, Foreign Secretary sitting in the Lords feels very 1850s.

Corrected for you, but that's for another thread.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Are we gonna get a Bigger Society?

We can no longer clean for the Queen so perhaps we’ll sing for the King.

 

[Pickman's model]

We can no longer clean for the Queen so perhaps we’ll sing for the King.

Traditionally the king sings for us

 

[brogdale]

I've been out and about today but coming to this thread, started at 9.58 this morning, and seeing it at +5 pages...it makes yer proud.

 

[cupid_stunt]

I've been out and about today but coming to this thread, started at 9.58 this morning, and seeing it at +5 pages...it makes yer proud.

If you took out all the posts referencing pigs, it would only just be on page 2.

 

[ouirdeaux]

If you took out all the posts referencing pigs, it would only just be on page 2.

Well, most people are thick.

 

[brogdale]

Well, most people are thick.

eh?