Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

[butchersapron]

They do like their vicarious fascism don't they? Was/isn't T Cash algerian?

 

[seventh bullet]

She's just dripping with class snobbery. People who stay poor stay poor because they're too stupid to break out of it.

I open small-sized boxes, medium-sized boxes and large-sized boxes most days. I don't think that's a very good use of my abilities either. I bet she would, though.

 

[chilango]

I have a (signed(!)) copy of Perdido St. Station. Is it worth the time?

So do I.

Signed 1st editions of Perdido Street Station and The Scar. Both much better than they could've been. Decent reads the pair of them.

 

[chilango]

More wilful confusion from Molly Crabapple on VICE 'home of interviews with the EDL' magazine:




The fact that there is "assistant" and "artist" is indicative of a large division even in this anti-corporate monetisation effort.

Sorry but that shit from Molly is crap.

I've done plenty of big paintings with no sponsorship or money.

 

[chilango]

It might be irony because he also says



I can never quite tell. He is a situationist so people taking the idea as reality rather than irony might say something about society in a complex situationist experiment.

No he's not.

Situationist my arse.

 

[butchersapron]

There is a great google translation in that vice thing btw (and i think it would be the sort of thing that Debord might like):

History is a lie come true anyway.

 

[rekil]

She's just dripping with class snobbery. People who stay poor stay poor because they're too stupid to break out of it.

That's not quite her conclusion this time tbf. It's just ye olde liberal guilt.

It's easy to ignore luck, privilege, and bloody social climbing when you stand onstage in a pair of combat boots. It’s easy to say that if people are just good enough, work hard enough, ask enough, believe enough, they will be like us.

But it’s a lie. Winning does not scale. We may be free beings, but we are constrained by an economic system rigged against us. What ladders we have are being yanked away. Some of us will succeed. The possibility of success is used to call the majority of people failures.

Just noticed that she unblocked PD on the twitter machine. Dunno when that happened.

 

[weepiper]

That's not quite her conclusion this time tbf. It's just ye olde liberal guilt.

Just noticed that she unblocked PD on the twitter machine. Dunno when that happened.

Oh, ok. I didn't read the whole article because she's a loathsome smug wanky artist and I'd rather stab my own eyeball with a red-hot needle so I missed that.

 

[sihhi]

I find the Molly Crabapple approach odd, she has chosen the photo of a young woman with a sign bare arms aloft.

Then asks for a translation.

https://twitter.com/mollycrabapple/status/342056709952516097

Can any of my Turkish speaking followers translate this protest sign? "gaz cok guzel sen gelsene dadindan yenmiyor" For a drawing

Then shortens the translation to make it simpler.

To produce this:

"Sketch based on photo @paulmasonnews sent me from #OccupyGezi. Will try and do lots more"

Which is a false image no one actually had that sign - it's just a mock up fantasy.

 

[sihhi]

Cuddly 2006 interview with Serge Ayoub in French edition of Vice.

Crabapple is off to the Caribbean for VICE aswell:

https://twitter.com/mollycrabapple/status/342290128447873025

Officially going to Guantanamo Bay in a week and a half to do an illustrated piece about it for VICE.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Why is he not doing it now then? There are plenty of opportunities to do more than posture.

Malcolm is strictly a lifestyle anarchist, if he's an anarchist at all beyond the "hip New Yorker" definition of the label. He's about as likely to try to break into an arsenal as he is to have sex with a woman the same age as him.

 

[ViolentPanda]

She's just dripping with class snobbery. People who stay poor stay poor because they're too stupid to break out of it.

Damn the poor for not monetising their hotness, the scum!!!

 

[ViolentPanda]

It might be irony because he also says



I can never quite tell. He is a situationist so people taking the idea as reality rather than irony might say something about society in a complex situationist experiment.

I suspect his "situationism" is situated in Harris having a ready excuse for when he draws attention to his cuntitude, along the lines of "pah, you don't understand. I was playing a role to point up the blah blah blah".

 

[redsquirrel]

For my friends and I who fought our way to moderate financial success, money came from transgressing society's norms. It might have been fucking rich dude after rich dude you met on Seeking Arrangements. It might have been stabbing your stomach each morning with a syringe of hormones, in order to sell your genetically desirable eggs. With much luck, it required doing the ambitious work everyone said you weren't ready for, then getting mocked and rejected for it, until, slowly, the wall began to crack. You could never do what you were supposed to, never stay quietly in your place.

Christ, what a revolting moron

 

[sihhi]

ultra-Orthodox anti-Zionist Jews opposed to Israel, want other people to die for Israel apparently

https://twitter.com/mollycrabapple/status/343920151894302720

A considered tweet:

Think a fundemental ethical problem of our time will be that we can see an infinate number of wrongs, but only have so much in us to care

What does that mean? Can someone explain? Is this not caring a problem for our time?
Did people care more before? wtf?

 

[sihhi]

Amazing being a pimp is now painted as transgression not as functional for the system you claim that you're challenging. Other peoples relationship with work is never as important as Molly/theirs.

My guess is it's something to do with acting against a perceived prudery by some earlier feminists.

Stuff like this sort of sets the picture - it's attacking a strawman - no type of feminism today is uncomfortable with these women existing - rather the capitalist reality that forces sex work, sexist fashion modeling and pornography to continue draining female lives and labour.

A feminism that is made uncomfortable by the existence of fashion models or porn stars or sex workers isn't feminism at all

But it's such a wide net, I'm sure De Beauvoir and Kollontai would fall on the wrong side of it. Their approach was that unless these things are pushed back against in a sensible way, then sexism and inferior perceptions of women will continue.

 

[el-ahrairah]

Sorry but that shit from Molly is crap.

I've done plenty of big paintings with no sponsorship or money.

 

[el-ahrairah]

opinions are like arseholes. many would say that a feminism that accepts patriarchal beauty myths and subserviant values is massive crock of self-defeating shite perpetuated by phonies, idiots, or turncoats. which side are you on, crabapple?

 

[J Ed]

ultra-Orthodox anti-Zionist Jews opposed to Israel, want other people to die for Israel apparently

https://twitter.com/mollycrabapple/status/343920151894302720

A considered tweet:



What does that mean? Can someone explain? Is this not caring a problem for our time?
Did people care more before? wtf?

I'm assuming that she is assuming that the people who are protesting are ultra-Orthodox Jews who aren't anti-Zionist like Neturei Karta but at the same time don't want ultra-Orthodox Jews to serve in the IDF. It does seem like a very odd thing in particular for her to highlight.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Pah! That's not art, it's just graffiti!

If it was proper art, that cock would be spunking!!!

 

[Idris2002]

At least you can see what it's meant to be.

 

[SpineyNorman]

Pah! That's not art, it's just graffiti!

If it was proper art, that cock would be spunking!!!

It is, but the bearer of the cock has a weird infection that by some weird coincidence turns your spunk the same shade of orange as the wall so you can't see it

 

[ViolentPanda]

It is, but the bearer of the cock has a weird infection that by some weird coincidence turns your spunk the same shade of orange as the wall so you can't see it

Oh.

That's alright, then!

 

[Nigel Irritable]

I see that John Pilger has managed to annoy both intersectionalists and some of the remaining radical feminists.

 

[rekil]

Nobody paints SEX in big letters on walls anymore. Masculinity in crisis?

 

[DaveCinzano]

At least you can see what it's meant to be.

That has a sinister ring to it now

 

[el-ahrairah]

Nobody paints SEX in big letters on walls anymore. Masculinity in crisis?

 

[rekil]

Got a million shitty things to do but one of these days I'll turn some of these into lyrics. Proper Bragg.

https://twitter.com/billybragg/status/344469194752028673

@sirrontail well good luck with that sunshine. Class is no longer the political signifier it was in the 20th, if you haven't noticed.

 

[sihhi]

This tweet from Billy Bragg: "we have to find a new language with which to express the ideals at we share"

 

[J Ed]

Got a million shitty things to do but one of these days I'll turn some of these into lyrics. Proper Bragg.

https://twitter.com/billybragg/status/344469194752028673

Shit musician too