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She's all over the place! In the run-up to the election she was Lib-Dem, only to mysteriously swap over to Labour and claim that she'd always supported Labour when it became obvious the Yellow Tories were going to go into coalition with the Blue Tories, not the red Tories. :)

'Yes, readers, these are my undiluted, unapologetic and entirely inviolate political principles!'

'But, if you don't like them (which might cost me my cushy media jobs and lucrative deals), I've got others...'
 
You can always tell you've riled a woman when she starts calling you sweetie.

And then there was a FIIIREFIGHT

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Woohoo! :cool:

She asked me to delete a photo that I took once - on a demo in Brighton!

But here's one I took earlier, with rollie attitude!


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On the left of Laurie is Zoe Stavri, a mate of Laurie's who I don't think has come up in this thread before. http://www.independent.co.uk/biography/zoe-stavri http://stavvers.wordpress.com https://twitter.com/stavvers

Met her briefly on a demo. Only read some of her writing (mostly feminist stuff, some stuff on rape, a few Jimmy Savile articles) but from what I can tell she seems infinitely more sensible than LP, imo. Seemingly coming from a similar place as LP but without the all-about-me rhetoric. A better example perhaps?
 
To remind us all that he doesn't want to be here and that he needs to be banned to prevent it from happening.
At some level, he thrives on the way that he can interract with people who aren't always of like mind here.
 
On the left of Laurie is Zoe Stavri, a mate of Laurie's who I don't think has come up in this thread before. http://www.independent.co.uk/biography/zoe-stavri http://stavvers.wordpress.com https://twitter.com/stavvers

Met her briefly on a demo. Only read some of her writing (mostly feminist stuff, some stuff on rape, a few Jimmy Savile articles) but from what I can tell she seems infinitely more sensible than LP, imo. Seemingly coming from a similar place as LP but without the all-about-me rhetoric. A better example perhaps?

I used to follow her on twitter. Had no idea she was a friend of LPs and thought she came from here!! Can't remember why I unfollowed her.
 
I like Stavvers' blogs. She blocked me on Twitter in my previous account for questioning Laurie's account of Starkey's "attack" on her, because you should "always believe abused people". That's really the problem I have with a lot of the left/anarchist/etcs on there. Too entrenched in their isms and quite probably a little too studenty and m/c. Though I neither know what I mean really nor am sure how accurate I am with such a statement.
 
The commentariat are in a proper twitter flap over criticism of Caitlin Moran - the gangs all there Moran, Ball, Martin, Lewis - defending their own records as progressive.
 
What does 'check your privilege' mean?


look at your own class, race and gender and asses your socioeconomic standard and power relation wrt your interlocutor

its a shit fucking american import that should have died with the Weathermen of the 60s new left movement who chiefly banged on about white skin privilege

it does have limited value in encouraging self evaluation but its starting to become a tool for closing of discussion while everyone goes prolier than thou or some shit

identity politics writ large. fuck the world
 
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