Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

[tufty79]

You couldn't c&p it could you? Website isn't loading here for some reason.

"Was just contacted by 'M', to whom I wrote this letter two weeks ago http://www.newstatesman.com/laurie-penny/2012/12/you-are-not-scrounger-letter-disabled-reader …. He's doing better and being looked after #phew

4:04 PM - 26 Dec 12"

 

[Firky]

Ah, that explains it

Brain fart, carry on.

 

[tufty79]

apparently she didn't call the police herself in the first place because she was in the usa. i didn't realise their telephone systems were down for a bit.

 

[Bakunin]

Fuck 'em all with a conger eel!

I'll see your conger ell, and raise you ramming a lionfish up their arses:

 

[smokedout]

tbf something like that happened to me recently and whilst i stayed in touch with the person i didnt contact the police, it was difficult to know what to do, but if there's no immediate threat there isn't much the police can do and the person concerned was already in touch with mental health services

the last people i even considered contacting were the fucking samaritans and it never remotely occurred to me to turn it into a piece for my blog

 

[equationgirl]

I'll see your conger ell, and raise you ramming a lionfish up their arses:

I see your lionfish and raise you a porcupine:

 

[Orang Utan]

A lionfish trumps a porcupine every time!

 

[equationgirl]

A lionfish trumps a porcupine every time!

It most certainly does not.

 

[Orang Utan]

It most certainly does not.

It does! Way more painful

 

[equationgirl]

It does! Way more painful

How is a lionfish more painful than a porcupine, ffs?

 

[Meltingpot]

How is a lionfish more painful than a porcupine, ffs?

Poison injected from the spines.

I don't really know about lionfish, but a stonefish sting is extremely painful, almost certainly more so than a porcupine - because its spines inject poison when they penetrate the skin, and I'd guess the same is true of lionfish too,

 

[Orang Utan]

Cos of its venom.
I think in the animal kingdom, only the box jellyfish is more painful.
Porcupine quills will only hurt where they penetrate. They're not venomous.
ETA: I may have been thinking of the stonefish Meltingpot mentioned, but the point still stands

 

[Bakunin]

How is a lionfish more painful than a porcupine, ffs?

Clipped from: http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2002-11/jf/feature/index.php



The Effects

Again, while stories of death by lionfish are common, it has been impossible for me to find a single documented case of such after an extensive search of medical literature. Other authors have reported the same results. This does not mean that it has never happened, but it implies that death by lionfish is exceptionally rare or unrecognized. It may in fact be limited only to those victims that might display some sort of allergic reaction, or to those that suffer from a fatal infection related to the wound.

Conversely, in the vast majority of cases, the predominant effects of a sting are nothing more than severe pain and swelling (edema) in the area around the puncture. Some victims have experienced systematic responses such as nausea, dizziness, muscle weakness, shortness of breath, hypotension, and headache brought on by the venom, or as a reaction to the level of pain, or both, but that's about it. In the worst of cases when medical treatment has been administered, some blistering and/or tissue loss (necrosis) has been experienced in the wound area, but this is very uncommon.


That's what happens with external stings. The effects of someone taking a (presumably extreme) dislike to someone else and ramming a lionfish up their trumpet are probably somewhat more unpleasant.

 

[equationgirl]

@bakunin

In that case, I raise you a Portugese Man'O War:



From the wikipedia article:

The stinging, venom-filled nematocysts[13] in the tentacles of the Portuguese man o' war can paralyze small fish and other prey. Detached tentacles and dead specimens (including those that wash up on shore) can sting just as painfully as the live creature in the water and may remain potent for hours or even days after the death of the creature or the detachment of the tentacle.[14]

Stings usually cause severe pain to humans, leaving whip-like, red welts on the skin that normally last 2 or 3 days after the initial sting, though the pain should subside after about an hour. However, the venom can travel to the lymph nodes and may cause, depending on the amount of venom, a more intense pain.[citation needed] A sting may lead to an allergic reaction. There can also be serious effects, including fever, shock, and interference with heart and lung function. Stings may also cause death,[15] although this is extremely rare. Medical attention may be necessary, especially if pain persists or is intense, there is an extreme reaction, the rash worsens, a feeling of overall illness develops, a red streak develops between swollen lymph nodes and the sting, or either area becomes red, warm and tender.

 

[Orang Utan]

I raise you a bullet ant. End of contest.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...an-tried-150-different-varieties-science.html

 

[equationgirl]

I raise you a bullet ant. End of contest.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...an-tried-150-different-varieties-science.html

But can you die from that? Portuguese Man'O War wins otherwise.

 

[SpineyNorman]

I raise you both my mum's dog - been eating leftover sprouts and stuffing for 3 days now and she's absolutely lethal!

 

[tufty79]

I raise you both my mum's dog - been eating leftover sprouts and stuffing for 3 days now and she's absolutely lethal!

i might eat a load of 'diabetic' chocolate and volunteer...

 

[SpineyNorman]

When my cousin was on morphine after a motorbike accident and laxatives weren't helping that stuff was the only thing that could relieve his constipation.

 

[Orang Utan]

But can you die from that? Portuguese Man'O War wins otherwise.

pain is the key factor here not lethality

 

[ViolentPanda]

A lionfish trumps a porcupine every time!

Ah, but does it trump a stonefish?

 

[Orang Utan]

Ah, but does it trump a stonefish?

Do keep up

 

[spawnofsatan]

Blue ringed octopus

 

[ViolentPanda]

It does! Way more painful

Problem is that it's often quickly fatal.
So, I have to ask: are you in favour of giving these people an easy death, or summat?

 

[Orang Utan]

Lionfish rarely kill
This is way better than dissecting Penny's arsedribblings

 

[ViolentPanda]

But can you die from that? Portuguese Man'O War wins otherwise.

Why would you want them to die when their pain can be exquisitely drawn-out?

 

[elbows]

For some reason I believe this vicious beast is more appropriate for the subjects of this thread.

 

[Ronnie Rubashov]

This is like some documentary on Bravo..."Deadliest...something or other"

What's next? ...
Grizzly Bear V Tiger?...Superman v Jesus?
Laurie Penny v Reality?

 

[Red Storm]

The scientist who tested stings to compare rates the bullet ant.

 

[Badgers]

The scientist who tested stings to compare rates the bullet ant.

He chose a strange calling.