Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

[DaveCinzano]

You made this happen.

Laurie Penny ‏@PennyRed
Spend today making a video report about Israel and the Information war with @Timcast, who has decided to Teach Me Video.

That's Tim Pool, one of those livestreamer types who films people blackbloccing and calls for them to be arrested when they suggest otherwise.

 

[rekil]

That's Tim Pool, one of those livestreamer types who films people blackbloccing and calls for them to be arrested when they suggest otherwise.

Sounds a bit like a certain someone from here. Any quotes/links just to make sure?

 

[DotCommunist]

Sounds a bit like a certain someone from here. Any quotes/links just to make sure?

not that gorilla bloke?

 

[DaveCinzano]

Sounds a bit like a certain someone from here. Any quotes/links just to make sure?

Pool films blackbloccing, someone objects; Pool's chum(s) demask(s) the objector and demand(s) cops arrest him:



Pool & chums brick it during guns-drawn traffic stop, then commend cops for their professionalism, and finally cross interview each other whilst circlejerking over how they livestreamed the whole thing:

 

[rekil]

Mates with Luke Rudkowski the conspiraloon, great.

 

[Balbi]

You made this happen.

Laurie Penny ‏@PennyRed
Spend today making a video report about Israel and the Information war with @Timcast, who has decided to Teach Me Video.

Puppetmaster, I am you.

 

[DaveCinzano]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2012/nov/16/celebrity-grandparents-and-grandchildren

Tony Benn, 87, with granddaughter Emily, 23, who stood to be a Labour MP at 17 and is now an investment banker

...I'm New Labour and I supported the invasion of Iraq. I've always said my interest in politics is nothing to do with my grandfather – no offence, Dan Dan. I got interested before 1997, because I thought the country wasn't on the right track. Public services could have been much better. I realised I was a lot luckier than some of my friends who didn't have the same opportunities as me, and that sat uncomfortably with me. Dan Dan was there in the hall at conference when I gave my first speech, which was really nice.

...We all go on holiday as a family a few times a year to the house in Essex – Christmas, Easter and bank holiday weekends. On Christmas Day, we go to Dan Dan's house. He's not the greatest cook. Nothing irritates me about him, but I do wish he'd cook better food for himself.

That's right - when she was seven years old she "thought the country wasn't on the right track".

What's "the house in Essex" anyway - some kind of baronial pile?

 

[articul8]

Blairite are like the jesuits - they teach them about privatising public services as soon as they're toilet trained.

 

[cesare]

Blairite are like the jesuits - they teach them about privatising public services as soon as they're toilet trained.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Blairite are like the jesuits - they teach them about privatising public services as soon as they're toilet trained.

Although hopefully the Blairites have a better record with toilet-trained toddlers than the Society of Jesus do!

 

[ViolentPanda]

It'll only be a short while until the Blairites have "SB" after their names.

 

[cesare]

It'll only be a short while until the Blairites have "SB" after their names.

Took me a couple of minutes to "get" that, oh dear

 

[DaveCinzano]

"My name is Inigo Loyola. You killed the career of my political father. Prepare to die."

 

[love detective]

Laurie Penny ‏@PennyRed
Petition to appoint a new BBC Director General transparently and openly - a vital change. Please do sign!

Penny demonstrating her solid grasp of the key structural position of the media and also an effective agent of change

 

[JimW]

By transparently and openly she obviously means from the published lists of former cleverest girls and boys from our marvellous fee-paying schools.

 

[phildwyer]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2012/nov/16/celebrity-grandparents-and-grandchildren



That's right - when she was seven years old she "thought the country wasn't on the right track".

What's "the house in Essex" anyway - some kind of baronial pile?

That'll be five successive generations of the Benn family in parliament. Must be a record?

 

[Prince Rhyus]

That'll be five successive generations of the Benn family in parliament. Must be a record?

Hence http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/nov/16/parties-stench-nepotism on Labour nepotism?

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

Nepotism is a distraction - Harris is just annoyed he's not been offered a safe seat yet

 

[co-op]

It'll only be a short while until the Blairites have "SB" after their names.

I think SA (Society of Anthony) would have a more unctuous feel.

 

[rekil]

Crabapple's Madrid thing for Vice.

The doodles are horrible and the first line is ridiculous.

Any protest, when you're in it, feels like it's going to change the world.

But on the whole, she's miles better than Laura.

 

[chilango]

I thought those drawings were actually ok. A lot, lot better than her usual twee self-indulgence. Seemed a little more restrained and straightforward.

Didn't bother reading the piece.

 

[Riklet]

I think that's a good article dashed with a few shit bits/wordings ('the riot cops eyed them warily'). that sums up the past few months pretty well, and caputures the feeling of what's happening a little bit too. doesn't read like the quotes have been invented on the AVE either.

I rather like the doodles.

 

[emanymton]

Crabapple's Madrid thing for Vice.

The doodles are horrible and the first line is ridiculous.
Any protest, when you're in it, feels like it's going to change the world

Not the ones where I'm stood there thinking: for fucks sakes this is embarrassing there are 4 of us.

 

[Balbi]

http://www.newstatesman.com/media/2...gle-know-we-value-conformity-more-our-privacy

Laurie reviews Assange's new book - and does an alright job of pushing every button known to set him off. I'll expect Julian's riposte within the next day or so.

Sometimes a paranoid, to paraphrase William Burroughs, is just a person in possession of all the facts. There is no one on earth for whom this description is more accurate than the WikiLeaks founder, dubious hacker messiah and noted cop-dodger Julian Assange, currently holed up in the Ecuadorean embassy evading extradition on rape allegations in Sweden. Assange knows more than almost anyone about the surveillance and security issues that affect every internet user; that he writes like a jaw-gnawing conspiracy theorist with crippling delusional narcissism doesn’t mean he’s wrong.

@ the last sentence.

 

[Balbi]

There's also, potentially, a way for someone inclined to use her 'willing victims' argument in reference to alleged charges

 

[rekil]

Stay classy, transatlantic poverty tourism.

Laurie Penny ‏@PennyRed
Writing on welfare, disability cuts and Atos for @newstatesman. Would anyone like to chat to me about their personal experience?

Deep conversations, I am not in you.

Laurie Penny ‏@PennyRed
Saturday night ended early. So much writing to do, but my heart longs for fires and drums and deep conversations #lonely #folkie

 

[mk12]

I once made a fake Myspace page and created a stereotypical posh lefty character called Barnabus Sebag Montefiore. He liked all the usual things: angry Muslims, Palestinian headscarves, poverty tourism and summit hopping.

Laurie Penny is the real thing though. She makes me cringe.

 

[Captain Hurrah]

I remember that.

There was also one with some student talking about his 'dream beard.' Was that you as well?

 

[mk12]

Haha not me. I think a few of us created pages like that around the same time.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

@PennyRed
I'm hearing the figure of '73 deaths a week' from welfare reforms thrown around, and I can't find the sources for it - can anyone help?

Get everyone else to do your research then why dontcha!