A thread for asking help in deciphering stuff on the internet (UK politico division).

[danny la rouge]

This is for stuff you come across and don’t understand. Post it up and hopefully someone else will be able to help.

 

[danny la rouge]

Now, I don’t want to stir up factionalist infighting. And I seldom understand AFed’s tweets anyway, but as both a Doctor Who fan and an anarchist (influenced by Platformism), I felt I should have some inkling of what this is about. But I have absolutely none. Not a jot. Anyone?

 

[Serge Forward]

Also a big Dr Who, Star Trek fan plus reader of shitloads of sf books, I've not a fucking scooby... beyond the writer possibly sending messages while on hallucinogenic goodies.

 

[danny la rouge]

Yup, Trekkie here too.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

I understand everything apart from the last bit and I have some guesses about that.

 

[danny la rouge]

I understand everything apart from the last bit and I have some guesses about that.

You can’t just say that and leave us hanging!

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

The basic thing is people who live under a rock have their keks in a twist over the fact the new doctor is black.

They put the blame on leftist culture wars.

Sci fi fans point out that doctor who is pretty fuck left as in universe the doctor is a freewheeling kinda dude who didn't like the rules heavy Gallifreians so nicked the tardis and when on a trip to see how the rest of the universe live with his granddaughter Susan.

They also hint that lots of sci-fi is pretty leftist promoting utopias and predicting right wing or capitalist dystopia.

Finally the last bit seems to be an argument over if talking about sci-fi is even proper politics.

 

[danny la rouge]

The basic thing is people who live under a rock have their keks in a twist over the fact the new doctor is black.

They put the blame on leftist culture wars.

Sci fi fans point out that doctor who is pretty fuck left as in universe the doctor is a freewheeling kinda dude who didn't like the rules heavy Gallifreians so nicked the tardis and when on a trip to see how the rest of the universe live with his granddaughter Susan.

They also hint that lots of sci-fi is pretty leftist promoting utopias and predicting right wing or capitalist dystopia.

Finally the last bit seems to be an argument over if talking about sci-fi is even proper politics.

Wow, well done! It just read as gibberish to me.

I’d contest the notion that the Doctor is “pretty fuck left”, though. He’s a classic liberal.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

He is a classic whatever the writers want him to be.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

Plus hartnell doctor is straight up willing to kill a dude if he was slowing him down.
The hippie stuff tended to be Troughton onwards.

 

[danny la rouge]

He is a classic whatever the writers want him to be.

My observation is based on, you know, watching the programme, Classic and New, and observing the Doctor’s way of dealing with issues.

 

[danny la rouge]

Plus hartnell doctor is straight up willing to kill a dude if he was slowing him down.
The hippie stuff tended to be Troughton onwards.

He didn’t, though. He considered it. And that wasn’t in any way contradictory to liberalism.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

He didn’t, though. He considered it. And that wasn’t in any way contradictory to liberalism.

Why is this an anarchist issue?

 

[danny la rouge]

Why is this an anarchist issue?

Sorry, I’m phasing out of your reality again.

 

[Lurdan]

I'm a bit troubled by this tweet. I'm not a Dr Who fan but I watched it back in the 1960s, and I don't remember 'him and Sue' being 'literally refugees bailing from quite literally space nazi's'. All the Time Lord and Gallifrey stuff came much later.

Is this just the sort of historical revisionism you'd expect from the sort of anarchists who claim their post-war paper is the same as a defunct one started in 1886 ?
Or is it actually more serious than that ? Are these "federationists" literally fashjacketing another race?

 

[danny la rouge]

Are these "federationists" literally fashjacketing another race?

 

[Serge Forward]

To be fair, the Daleks were based on the nazis










Still don't know what the fuck it all means though.

 

[gosub]

To be fair, the Daleks were based on the nazis










Still don't know what the fuck it all means though.

That with every major issue in the known universe satisfactorily done and dusted, its time to sweat the small stuff

 

[maomao]

I'm a bit troubled by this tweet. I'm not a Dr Who fan but I watched it back in the 1960s, and I don't remember 'him and Sue' being 'literally refugees bailing from quite literally space nazi's'. All the Time Lord and Gallifrey stuff came much later.

Is this just the sort of historical revisionism you'd expect from the sort of anarchists who claim their post-war paper is the same as a defunct one started in 1886 ?
Or is it actually more serious than that ? Are these "federationists" literally fashjacketing another race?

From Wikipedia plot precis of 'an unearthly child' (I was barely a twinkle in my father's eye at the time):

Susan explains that the object is a time and space machine called the TARDIS and the old man is her grandfather, who reveals that he and his granddaughter are exiles from their own planet.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Twitter meme chat. You had to be there.

 

[Lurdan]

who reveals that he and his granddaughter are exiles from their own planet

Indeed - 'exiles'. It wasn't suggested they were being pursued by anyone, let alone 'literal nazis'. They were certainly not being pursued by Daleks - in the second storyline they meet them for the first time.

These kinds of issues might appear trivial but they can cast a very revealing light. It was the Daleks who were the real stars of the show in the '60s and while I'm not big on memorabilia I do still have a small plastic Woolworth's one. In the early '80s I caught a 'comrade' pulling it's head off. It came as little surprise when this wrong 'un later joined London Wildcat.

 

[Dystopiary]

I thought they were discussing Adric being a twink.

 

[A380]

This is for stuff you come across and don’t understand. Post it up and hopefully someone else will be able to help.

urban75 forums

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www.urban75.net

 

[DaveCinzano]

Is this just the sort of historical revisionism you'd expect from the sort of anarchists who claim their post-war paper is the same as a defunct one started in 1886 ?

Ah, that's London anarchists.

Bristol anarchists date back to 1827.

 

[8ball]

Now, I don’t want to stir up factionalist infighting. And I seldom understand AFed’s tweets anyway, but as both a Doctor Who fan and an anarchist (influenced by Platformism), I felt I should have some inkling of what this is about. But I have absolutely none. Not a jot. Anyone?

It’s an “I am very intelligent” post that is liable to age badly.

 

[Supine]

Big article on levelling up. Posted here so I can decipher it after some coffee

Boris Johnson’s Flagship Plan to Fix Britain Is in Trouble

An exclusive Bloomberg News analysis reveals which UK regions are making progress, and which lag behind.

www.bloomberg.com

 

[hitmouse]

Indeed - 'exiles'. It wasn't suggested they were being pursued by anyone, let alone 'literal nazis'. They were certainly not being pursued by Daleks - in the second storyline they meet them for the first time.

These kinds of issues might appear trivial but they can cast a very revealing light. It was the Daleks who were the real stars of the show in the '60s and while I'm not big on memorabilia I do still have a small plastic Woolworth's one. In the early '80s I caught a 'comrade' pulling it's head off. It came as little surprise when this wrong 'un later joined London Wildcat.

"Pulling the Dalek's head off" is a profanisaurus term I'd not encountered before.

 

[hitmouse]

Looked around on there a bit more, is the point of this one that most of these cannot be found in the UK?

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Hello fellow confused comrades. I am seeing a lot of this in relation to some graffiti in America:



Most anarchists I know don't bother that much with the circled A anyway?

 

[hitmouse]

Hello fellow confused comrades. I am seeing a lot of this in relation to some graffiti in America:



Most anarchists I know don't bother that much with the circled A anyway?

I think that one's relatively self-explanatory? As the thread alludes to, the issue is with weird conspiracist liberal internet people taking "clean" circle-As in graffiti as being evidence of a false flag because they imagine real anarchists only use messy ones, which is a mad idea with no basis in reality. What part is confusing?