bamalama
don't do that
You're missing the point lbj
A Girl Called Jack... time for action?
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FridgeMagnet
Administrator
What is her background?
Nah, I'm not saying it's not alright for her to talk about these things - But don't talk about them as though you know them, Jack. That's what I'm trying (probably not very articulately) to say - This daft blog of hers is not what poverty looks like in the UK in the 21st century. That's what I'm saying.
Thora
Differently Ethical
But what makes you say that? You're assuming that her parents are supporting her, and that blogging somehow means she isn't really poor, but I'm not sure what you're basing that on?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Ok. Hypothetical. She was in the position she was in, but had access to a mate's computer, which she used while her mate babysat for her to give her a break. She used that time to start a blog, and that blog got noticed - as can happen with blogs - and she was contacted by a newspaper for an interview. She says yes, and everything that's happened since is a result of that.
If something like that happened, then yes, clearly she had the social capital of a friend with a computer who was prepared to babysit for her. It's not the most dramatic social capital in the world. It doesn't invalidate what she has to say.
bamalama
don't do that
Ban bang
bamalama
don't do that
Why are you assuming they're not?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Because they aren't - which is all over the stories and interviews that she has done. Unless you're accusing her of straight up lying?
bamalama
don't do that
You're still missing the point...what is social capital,where does it come from,how does it replicate itself,how is it used...
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
It's just annoying when people get like this.
Well, when I was struggling, the last thing I'd have thought of doing was write a blog about it. She's a dick, it's obvious from every word she types, she just is.
bamalama
don't do that
Not yet...i've been tied up here for a wee while,i should probably go and do some sniffin around...
Thora
Differently Ethical
I have no idea if they are or not. They obviously aren't providing loads of support if she was buying £10 a week of food, had rent arrears and had to sell her stuff. Even if they are giving her support - what does that prove? Poor families support each other too. I live in an area where a high percentage of people are on benefits, and I see lots of grandparents babysitting, people moving back in with their parents, bringing shopping round to their nan.
bamalama
don't do that
Bang bang
No argument again.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Social capital can range from the old school tie getting you a job in the city to having a network of support that gives you a few hours relief from looking after your child every week.
At every level it reproduces itself because without it, you're less likely (often hugely unlikely) to achieve the things you can achieve with it.
bamalama
don't do that
Thora
Differently Ethical
You didn't think of something, so since she did she's a dick?
She blogged about cooking. Lots of people blog about cooking.
bamalama
don't do that
Aw that's not it - At all. It's not about what I thought of or what she thought of, she's a dick coz she blogs about poverty whilst clearly having no idea.
QueenOfGoths
Fuck you Dave!
Maybe the blog is what keeps her going? Maybe she was so angry/upset/fed up she had to articulate it? And a blog is a good way of doing it.
It wasn't what you would do, it might not be what I would do but that's personal preference, it doesn't mean she is in the wrong
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
im not saying this isn't true but is there a link?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Exactly. She got an idea into her head and followed through with it. That takes motivation, which I agree is not something that comes in isolation, but it's silly to make too many assumptions about her just because she was motivated.
I'm not saying she's in the wrong for doing her blog - I'm saying the content of her blog shows that she knows a resounding fuck all about what it is to be poor in the UK in 2013.
Thora
Differently Ethical
You keep saying she has no idea, but I can't work out why you think that. Maybe you are defining poverty in a more extreme way than most people would, as something experienced by only a very few people in extreme circumstances. A lot of people are living in poverty - as many as 1:6 children do. Not only people on benefits, but also people in low paid work. Many of those people might blog or be involved in activism or art etc.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
She went to grammar school and left at 16 with no desire to stay in education due to being bullied as the schools token pov.
Not what I'm going with at all - Where did I even come close to slagging her off for being "motivated"?
No.
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