9/11 media happenings

[pk]

Oh and just in case anyone is in any doubt over the true nature of Jazzz's agenda - this is a recent thread from the website he's eagerly selling t-shirts for... The British 9/11 Truth Campaign. As far from the truth as you could possibly get.

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=7010

Holocaust denial now is it - how far does the rabbit hole go, Jazzz??

I see that trolling websites is part of your campaigning tactic - how long should you get away with it here I wonder??

Great stuff... can I suggest though concentrating the fire, don't have too many different questions, otherwise they can say that there's a concerted trolling attack going and they might delete the lot - far better to just vote for the lead question IMHO.

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=49479&highlight=#49479

 

[Jazzz]

Bwahaha! What a total load of cock. Really. It's one of the funniest songs I've ever heard. Who the fuck are these clowns?

And if you're gauging 'progress' of your fact-free, answer-avoiding 'movement' by a laughably bad, cliche ridden MOR song being posted on the internet, I feel truly sorry for you.

Now will you answer my questions please? I've heard enough shit music.

Yes, I pissed myself too. It's called light relief

and no

 

[pk]

and no

So once again, you're here making bold false statements, and refusing to answer questions about them.

Tosser.

 

[TheArchitect]

Oh and just in case anyone is in any doubt over the true nature of Jazzz's agenda - this is a recent thread from the website he's eagerly selling t-shirts for... The British 9/11 Truth Campaign. As far from the truth as you could possibly get.

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=7010

Holocaust denial now is it - how far does the rabbit hole go, Jazzz??

One assumes that THIS is accusation which Jazz will actually respond to, and fairly fast at that. Now, where's the popcorn....

 

[pk]

One assumes that THIS is accusation which Jazz will actually respond to, and fairly fast at that. Now, where's the popcorn....

This is an opinion that seems to go hand in hand with conspiranoid tosspot culture... that and "chemtrails" and "remote controlled aircraft".

Holocaust denial. All those Jews didn't really die after all.

Yet I'M the offensive one.

 

[MikeMcc]

One assumes that THIS is accusation which Jazz will actually respond to, and fairly fast at that. Now, where's the popcorn....

FFS, the content at that site is disgraceful, no fuckig excuse.

I've visited Bergen-Belsen and Oradour. I KNOW what animals are capable of, I also know that members of armies of all nationalities in WWII committed atrocities and war crimes. But to try and deny the crimes committed is wrong. If they truly cared about the subject matter of the forum the moderators should have deleted the thread as irrelevant.

 

[editor]

and no

Why would a self declared 'truth seeker' refuse to answer questions pertaining to his own self declared 'truth'?

Why do you keep running away, Jazzz?

 

[pk]

FFS, the content at that site is disgraceful, no fuckig excuse.

I've visited Bergen-Belsen and Oradour. I KNOW what animals are capable of, I also know that members of armies of all nationalities in WWII committed atrocities and war crimes. But to try and deny the crimes committed is wrong. If they truly cared about the subject matter of the forum the moderators should have deleted the thread as irrelevant.

This is the true face of the 9/11 Truth Movement.

I might have to attend some of their publiscised leaflet campaigns to try and put their heads in touch with reality.

Failing that, put them in touch with the pavement.

 

[editor]

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=7010

You should be ashamed of yourself for openly associating with these cunts, Jazzz. Why haven't you spoken out on those threads? Why aren't those people banned?

Mind you, there's loads of whining fruitloops on there who have been banned from urban75 and are left to talk amongst the handful of people there while kidding themselves that their 'movement' (complete with Holocaust denying cunts on board) is really going somewhere.

"Current registered users online: 7 LOL."

 

[Jazzz]

As posters here should be aware I am Jewish, and am alive only because my great-grandfather had the sense to realise what was going on while it was still very much 'conspiracy theory'.

I don't agree with holocause denial in the slightest. And if you were to ask me about the moderation and leadership of the nineeleven truth movement, I'd have plenty of criticism. Those boards, frankly, are a total mess. But I don't blame them for the policy of non-censorship. But you can't go around saying that I'm somehow associated with any other random poster's comments, on a board which anyone can post on. That would be like saying I associate with pk simply because we both post on urban75!

 

[Jazzz]

You should be ashamed of yourself for openly associating with these cunts, Jazzz. Why haven't you spoken out on those threads? Why aren't those people banned?

The reason for that, for one, is that I hadn't read them - I've posted little on those boards. But even if I had, I think it's far better to ignore stuff whose existence you do not care for. Most of the posters there are certainly not 'cunts', but perhaps not all. A bit like U75

 

[editor]

The reason for that, for one, is that I hadn't read them - I've posted little on those boards. But even if I had, I think it's far better to ignore stuff whose existence you do not care for. Most of the posters there are certainly not 'cunts', but perhaps not all. A bit like U75

It's nothing like u75. If anyone posted up despicable shit like that they'd be off this site before you could say, "invisible bombs."

Don't you see the damage you do to yourself by being strongly associated with such a 'movement' that not only permits such stuff on their boards but has posters agreeing with the Holocaust-denying sentiments? These are the people you associate with. These are the people who think know the truth, just like you.

Think about it for fuck's sake.

 

[Jazzz]

... I don't give a fuck about that, because it's only small-minded people (like pk) that go in for guilt by association. They aren't going to be the ones that change the world for better. Besides which, if you read that post, the evil 'holocaust denial' line doesn't actually deny that Jews died in concentration camps in large numbers. If you are going to be really against censorship, then that means allowing posts like that.

As things go, the reason I think those boards are a shocking mess is that there is no 'general' forum where you can post about non-political stuff, birthday threads, nonsense - the kind of thing that underpins urban75

 

[pk]

... I don't give a fuck about that, because it's only small-minded people (like pk) that go in for guilt by association. They aren't going to be the ones that change the world for better.

You have no idea what I do in real life, and if you think your holocaust denial mates are making this world better you're sadly mistaken.

Besides which, if you read that post, the evil 'holocaust denial' line doesn't actually deny that Jews died in concentration camps in large numbers. If you are going to be really against censorship, then that means allowing posts like that.

Unbelievable. Your great-grandfather would rightly be ashamed of you. Are you questioning the millions of Jewish dead now?

As things go, the reason I think those boards are a shocking mess is that there is no 'general' forum where you can post about non-political stuff, birthday threads, nonsense - the kind of thing that underpins urban75

No. The boards are a shocking mess because of the people there.

I take back what I said about Jehovah's Witnesses.

What I think is more accurate is that you are like the Westboro Baptist Church, picketing funerals and saying Thank God For AIDS, in the woefully fucked belief that by pissing on the memories of the dead you might shock a few people into having a look at your website.

How you have the nerve to accuse me of being small-minded is just incomprehensible.

 

[Jazzz]

It's very comprehensible. You've only got to look at your post above to look at your nonsensical shit-throwing. I am not mates with 'holocaust deniers' - nor do I share their beliefs because I have posted on the same board any more than I must be mates and share beliefs with you for the same reason, and we know what the answer to that is.

 

[pk]

Tell me, was it a thrill for you to "meekly ask for Willie Rodriguez's autograph"?

You're not actually interested in finding the truth, otherwise you would listen to people who know what they're talking about - this whole truth movement bullshit is just a way to feel important, isn't it?

You are the UK equivalent of the Westboro Baptist Church, and by listening and nodding sagely to the messages of hate and fear, yes, I will condemn you by association.

Any right thinking person would challenge such sick views, but you just claim "free speech" and ignore it, yet you demand to be taken seriously here.

I pity you, actually. There must be something wrong with you in order for you to want to belong so badly you would elect to follow this "truth" movement, to the point where you're actually selling t-shirts in support of the website.

Why don't you just fly to New York or Washington and piss on the graves of the 9/11 dead?

Or maybe do the same in Auswitz or Belsen - because effectively, by not challenging the kind of shit your little website is supporting - you may as well strap a swastika to your arm.

 

[Jazzz]

yes, it was humbling to ask for William Rodriguez' autograph, he's an ordinary member of the public who saved probably hundreds of lives on 9/11. It's not often you meet someone like that. And I was quite chuffed that he accepted my gift of a t-shirt.

Let's look at your style pk. I assume that you found my posts there by googling my new tagline. Then, you searched my posts, and you looked for the most objectionable thread you could find. What kind of person does this kind of thing professionally? Yes, News of the World reporters. Although I have to say, they have far higher standards of muck-racking than you.

How you get away with posting what you do here is a far bigger mystery to me than nineeleven.co.uk's censorship policy - practically every post of yours is a bile-filled odyssey of hate. Whereas others may make personal attacks as an adjunct to a wider debate, you make wider debate as an adjunct to personal attacks. You're spite-filled. I pity you.

 

[MikeMcc]

I not saying that you share their views on that subject but it does damage the credibility of the site that you are using as a source.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Both of those I took in good faith from webpages,

Exactly. You took them "in good faith", without one moments thought as to their possible accuracy or credibility. You are utterly incapable of looking beyond the words on the screen in front of you and questioning the validity and motive of your sources. The fact that you, as a Jew, are prepared to associate yourself with boards that let holocaust denial go unchecked is beyond belief. You are so caught up in your paranoid fantasy world you fail to see how utterly tragic your position has become.

 

[pk]

Oh I don't think he believes the holocaust was a myth, but he's gullible enough to stick up for those who do.

And he's got a nerve comparing my quick look at that shitwipe website with News of the World reporting - at least they can quote their sources unlike Jazzz here, who I notice is STILL evading the pertinent questions put to him by non-gullible people.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Oh I don't think he believes the holocaust was a myth

Neither do I, but the fact that he is prepared to post on boards that let it go unchecked is beyond belief.

 

[Jazzz]

Well, everyone here goes mental because I choose not to indulge editor's relentless questioning - when I have no obligation to.

But when it's 9/11 victim's families asking questions of the 9/11 Commission - asking why their loved ones died - it's okay for them to be ignored?

William Rodriguez says that of 167 questions posed by the families to the commission, only 20 odd were answered.

Read all about them

 

[Yossarian]

Does he think the Zionists were behind it all too?

 

[Jazzz]

oh yes and pk - speak for your own great-grandfathers. I find it really, really fucking offensive that you claim to speak for mine. Get lost.

 

[MikeMcc]

Well, everyone here goes mental because I choose not to indulge editor's relentless questioning - when I have no obligation to.

But when it's 9/11 victim's families asking questions of the 9/11 Commission - asking why their loved ones died - it's okay for them to be ignored?

William Rodriguez says that of 167 questions posed by the families to the commission, only 20 odd were answered.

Read all about them

Because we've indulged you by answering the claims that you have made, whereas you haven't adequately responded to any of those points. Now you are trying to dress it up that it's about the families of the victims rather than you being self-indulgent.

There ARE questions to be asked, particularly about how the intelligence was ignored, about the level of preparedness, about the failure to follow the procedures that existed at the time, about the problems of trying to escape from high-rise buildings, about the preparedness of the Fire Dept to be able to respond to disasters,...

But speculation about CD, directed energy weapons, grand conspiracies, etc isn't helping anyone.

 

[pk]

I find it far more offensive that a Jewish man would actively promote a website that spreads holocaust denial bullshit.

Do your parents know about your little hobby?

 

[Jazzz]

I find it far more offensive that a Jewish man would actively promote a website that spreads holocaust denial bullshit.

Do your parents know about your little hobby?

He'd be far more concerned that I bother posting on a website where you spread your hate-filled poisonous rants than a forum which abides by Voltaire's maxim.

 

[Jazzz]

There ARE questions to be asked, particularly about how the intelligence was ignored, about the level of preparedness, about the failure to follow the procedures that existed at the time, about the problems of trying to escape from high-rise buildings, about the preparedness of the Fire Dept to be able to respond to disasters,...

... the questions asked by the family members go far further than that MikeMcc.

Let's quote some for example - questions to Georgie boy himself

5. U.S. Navy Captain Deborah Loewer, the Director of the White House Situation Room, informed you of the first airliner hitting Tower One of the World Trade Center before you entered the Emma E. Booker Elementary School in Sarasota, Florida. Please explain the reason why you decided to continue with the scheduled classroom visit, fifteen minutes after learning the first hijacked airliner had hit the World Trade Center.

6. Is it normal procedure for the Director of the White House Situation Room to travel with you? If so, please cite any prior examples of when this occurred. If not normal procedure, please explain the circumstances that led to the Director of the White House Situation Room being asked to accompany you to Florida during the week of September 11th.

7. What plan of action caused you to remain seated after Andrew Card informed you that a second airliner had hit the second tower of the World Trade Center and America was clearly under attack? Approximately how long did you remain in the classroom after Card’s message?

23. Which individuals, governments, agencies, institutions, or groups may have benefited from the attacks of 9/11? Please state specifically how you think they have benefited.

24. After the first WTC building was struck, did you receive any information directly or indirectly from the Secret Service agents located in WTC 7?

 

[pk]

Hate filled poisonous rants?

LOL!

Go back to studying your Protocols of Zion you little idiot, keep on sucking up to people like David Icke, you never know, they might make you a moderator on St*rmfr*nt if you keep turning a blind eye to the blatant anti-semetic shit on your 'truth' seekers website.

I'd advise you to stay well away from my Jewish mates though, if you're going to spin the same sort of horseshit as your mates do.

Naivety will be no excuse for pushing a far right agenda, sponsored by American Free Press, as you are doing unquestioningly.

Idiots like you sent your forefathers to the ovens... Gullible to the point you'd believe the conspiracy shit Adolf came out with.

 

[pk]

oops triple post... Can't delete as I'm on a PDA with no edit options.