9/11 media happenings

[fela fan]

Agreed, some of the abuse thrown Jazz's way has been way way over the top.

ALL of it mate. They should wonder what kind of people they are really.

I know it's only a website, and no doubt jazzz does too, but i find it unreal how low people can go in their attempts to abuse people who have the 'wrong' opinion on this subject. Jazzz has his ideas, and yet folk here seem to want nothing else than rub his fucking nose in the dirt.

Why?

 

[Crispy]

ALL of it mate. They should wonder what kind of people they are really.

I know it's only a website, and no doubt jazzz does too, but i find it unreal how low people can go in their attempts to abuse people who have the 'wrong' opinion on this subject. Jazzz has his ideas, and yet folk here seem to want nothing else than rub his fucking nose in the dirt.

Why?

Well, what he's proposing is a pretty offensive idea, so it's understandable that people get wound up by it. (let's not get onto defensable)

 

[pk]

Sorry, but when I see anyone promoting race hate websites and holocaust denial bullshit like that found on his guffseekers website - I take it personally.

 

[fela fan]

thanks fela!

When people produce Looney-Tunes rants for no good reason, they're really just describing themselves. You realise that too of course. Knowing it helps. But of course saying it might make them go utterly ballistic <ducks>

Total respect man. The shit that comes your way!! You are a top man for taking it all on the chin.

One day mate, one day, our time will come!!

 

[Crispy]

None of the abuse takes away from the really wobbly ground that Jazzz has been arguing his structural thoeries from, though.

 

[fela fan]

Sorry, but when I see anyone promoting race hate websites and holocaust denial bullshit like that found on his guffseekers website - I take it personally.

Yeah, well mate, if you will excuse me for saying it, i just think you take things round here a wee bit too seriously.

Way too seriously.

 

[fela fan]

thanks fela!

When people produce Looney-Tunes rants for no good reason, they're really just describing themselves. You realise that too of course. Knowing it helps. But of course saying it might make them go utterly ballistic <ducks>

The ballisticness i see here mate just blows me away.

 

[pk]

Yeah, well mate, if you will excuse me for saying it, i just think you take things round here a wee bit too seriously.

Way too seriously.

Oh so a bunch of right wing cunts spreading lies about the millions killed in the holocaust is "a laugh" then is it?

Might as well invite St*rmfr*nt over to spread some more bullshit... that would be fun too eh?

To be honest I think if you don't take this shit seriously there's something wrong with you - but seeing as you subscribe to the loon theories I have already come to that conclusion anyway.

Westboro Truthseekers Church - Thank God For 9/11 - It Makes Us Feel Important

 

[Yossarian]

One day mate, one day, our time will come!!

April 1st?

 

[detective-boy]

But when it's 9/11 victim's families asking questions of the 9/11 Commission - asking why their loved ones died - it's okay for them to be ignored?

This is the central point you have trouble with.

They haven't been "ignored". There has been an investigation. There are still some bits of it going on. There have been many pages of reports prepared.

But you don't agree with them. IF that had not happened then you would be justified to stand there shouting "We want an enquiry". But, as they have, you MUST explain why the enquiry there has been is insufficient. But you don't. Which is why people point and laugh.

Most of the victims families I have seen have been asking questions way beyond the actual attack, asking why the attack happened as in why the US did what it was doing to piss them off so much they wanted to attack. That was outside the immediate enquiry into the actual attack and, as such, is a far more valid request than yours.

 

[Dubversion]

Why?

cos he's a twat who either believes all this crap - some of which is pernicious, offensive bullshit - or he's the most credulous fool on earth.

something along those lines, anyway

 

[editor]

Why?

Perhaps because they find his claims offensive and can't stand the stench of his hypocrisy.

He keeps insisting that anyone who disagrees with his barking theories is somehow "getting in the way of the 9/11 families" while he continues to post up deeply offensive bullshit saying that the plane victims are either:
(a) all liars, and are alive and well and working for the government or
(b) were taken off the planes and slaughtered by their own government

I don't imagine the families would be too delighted to hear that chain of fact-free, full-loon-fat bullshit.

He's also enthusiastically endorsed a website promoting Holocaust denial (and compared it to u75) and, of course, insisted that a mass murdering child killer was totally innocent of all charges.

And that's just for starters....

 

[Dubversion]

Argument flows better when it's depersonalised.

but arguments with Jazz don't flow at all. this has been going on for 5 years now.

 

[fela fan]

To be honest I think if you don't take this shit seriously there's something wrong with you - but seeing as you subscribe to the loon theories I have already come to that conclusion anyway.

No, i don't subsrcibe to any 'loon theories' at all.

Just no need to be as nasty as you and some others are when you don't agree with something.

That was all.

 

[detective-boy]

<deep breath>

OK Jazzz, now the tricky bit, one question at a time.

1 - Missiles being fired from the planes. Please show some evidence, from a credible source, to support this. This will need to include details of how on earth you attach missiles to a commercial aircraft, and reasons why you would need to, considering that you also believe CD was used to bring the towers down.

Oh, and why the (live in the case of the second plane) TV footage showed no trace of any such missiles (or were they, like all the CD operatives and explosives, invisible?)

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

but arguments with Jazz don't flow at all. this has been going on for 5 years now.

The CTers are constantly asking for a "proper enquiry" into 9/11 - what they are really asking for is one that agrees with them. No matter how many times the questions are asked, no matter how many times evidence is presented, they will continue to believe their own paranoid theories. The parallels with a religious cult are obvious to everyone but the Cters themselves.

 

[detective-boy]

One day mate, one day, our time will come!!

Yep, one day the lunatics always take over the asylum. Sure as eggs is eggs!

 

[fela fan]

Perhaps because they find his claims offensive and can't stand the stench of his hypocrisy.

The 'stench of his hypocrisy'?? Great phrase that one.

We're all hypocrites mate, and the fact that you are ready to be the judge of others on this point means that your mirror is dusted to fuck.

You're a hypocrite for calling others on this.

 

[pk]

The parallels with a religious cult are obvious to everyone but the Cters themselves.

Totally agree.

 

[Dubversion]

The CTers are constantly asking for a "proper enquiry" into 9/11 - what they are really asking for is one that agrees with them. No matter how many times the questions are asked, no matter how many times evidence is presented, they will continue to believe their own paranoid theories. .

and, as i've pointed out before, all this horseshit further obscures the real issues - as other people have said.

Jazz and Fela and all the other goons are the best thing that ever happened to the US government when it comes to shit like this.

 

[fela fan]

The CTers are constantly asking for a "proper enquiry" into 9/11 - what they are really asking for is one that agrees with them. No matter how many times the questions are asked, no matter how many times evidence is presented, they will continue to believe their own paranoid theories. The parallels with a religious cult are obvious to everyone but the Cters themselves.

The 'CTers'??? Just who are these people?

What you say about them could easily be applied to yourself actually.

But could you see that? No, i doubt it.

 

[fela fan]

and, as i've pointed out before, all this horseshit further obscures the real issues - as other people have said.

Jazz and Fela and all the other goons are the best thing that ever happened to the US government when it comes to shit like this.

Jesus, now my opinions have fuckers on this website elevating me to the status of causing problems for the USG.

Bloody hell. I wish.

 

[Dubversion]

The 'CTers'??? Just who are these people?

What you say about them could easily be applied to yourself actually.

But could you see that? No, i doubt it.

you really are a smug, self-regarding twat, aren't you?

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

The 'CTers'??? Just who are these people?

What you say about them could easily be applied to yourself actually.

But could you see that? No, i doubt it.

Errr, how exactly?

I've got a perfectly open mind about 9/11. Show me evidence to support a theory and I'll give it due consideration, wheras Cters will only consider things that support their view, dismissing credibile evidence and opinion outright, as demonstrated by Jazzz on this very thread.

 

[editor]

We're all hypocrites mate, and the fact that you are ready to be the judge of others on this point means that your mirror is dusted to fuck.

You're as barking as the Great Barking Dogtree Of Barking on All Woofer's Day.

Seeing as you are clearly still unable to contribute anything even remotely on topic here, please fuck off and take your mirror with you, nutboy.

Thanks.

 

[Dubversion]

Jesus, now my opinions have fuckers on this website elevating me to the status of causing problems for the USG.

Bloody hell. I wish.

i didn't say that did i? no wonder you believe everything you're told if you can't even read a simple post and understand it.

read what i posted again, einstein.

 

[fela fan]

you really are a smug, self-regarding twat, aren't you?

Really?? Well, that would be up to you mate. Obviously i am according to you.

But then, who the fuck are you?

Probably the exact self-same as you call me.

Do you enjoy being the kind of person you call others eh mate?

 

[fela fan]

Errr, how exactly?

I've got a perfectly open mind about 9/11. Show me evidence to support a theory and I'll give it due consideration.

Well, go and read the cooperativeresearch website then.

But i've told this website this many times. Go on, do what you say...

 

[Bob_the_lost]

Really?? Well, that would be up to you mate. Obviously i am according to you.

But then, who the fuck are you?

Probably the exact self-same as you call me.

Do you enjoy being the kind of person you call others eh mate?

Is this the most incomprehensible version of "Takes one to know one" ever attempted?

Any time you feel like posting something worth responding to then rock on Fela

 

[Crispy]

It was all going so well.