binka
!!!!!!!!!
I'm not sure how you managed without me tbh. perplexing
2014 EU/Local Election Thread - Predictions and Results
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
exactly what i was going to say. how have you managed?I'm not sure how you managed without me tbh. perplexing
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
It was endorsed by and largely organised lib-dems in the immediate days after the election - it had lib-dem stewards and was addressed by lib-dem MPs including clegg - to which they cut from the live football commentary to broadcast on radio five if i remember right. I think Anthony Barnett largely set it up.Seriously? No more Lib Dem councillors at all in Islington? I remember a Lib Dem telling me a few years back that they were definitely now going to be in power there for a generation. I laughed at the time, I laugh even more now.
I don't think more than the front two or three of those people are actually Lib Dems. The photo seems to be from an Unlock Democracy event, which was supported by the Lib Dems, but was very likely organised by a former Lib Dem who's walked out in disgust. There are lots of clues in the photo as to why they're not Lib Dems tbf. For starters, Lib Dems of that age don't look that normal.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
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free spirit
more tea vicar?
Council election votes for the wards in my parliamentary constituency.
Lib dems were on 47.5% in the last elections, winning with a full 9000 majority. The lib dems are now on 29.1% and only 3% above Labour, who were 26% behind them at the last election, and behind the tories as well.
This constituency has a hell of a lot of students and staff from the universities in it, and the weetwood results are likely swung in favour of the lib dem councillor due to local factors (campaign against an unpopular trolley bus scheme).
Greens did nearly as well as UKIP despite a nearly invisible campaign in much of the area 10.5% up from 1.2% at the last general election.
I reckon this seat is up for grabs at the next election despite the lib dems huge majority at the last election.
binka
!!!!!!!!!
I've made about four posts today and you've copied half of them!
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Improved upon them dear boy.
prunus
Tick tock.
This urbster now resides in the only ward in Doncaster won by UKIP.
Edenthorpe, Kirk Sandall and Barnby Dunn Ward.
Chris Allen, Conservative, 681.
Greg Beaumont, TUSC, 102.
Fred Gee, UKIP, 1304, ELECTED.
Keith Hewitt, English Democrats, 198.
David Nevett, Labour and Cooperative, 1267.
Majority: 37. Votes cast: 3572. Turnout: 33%.
Didn't Fred Gee work in the Rovers return?
Known the outgoing Labour candidate for years through the Union where he was Branch Secretary and also from the old Amicus Gazette days.
Decent bloke, sadly wiped out in this former Labour stronghold!
Edenthorpe, Kirk Sandall and Barnby Dunn Ward.
Chris Allen, Conservative, 681.
Greg Beaumont, TUSC, 102.
Fred Gee, UKIP, 1304, ELECTED.
Keith Hewitt, English Democrats, 198.
David Nevett, Labour and Cooperative, 1267.
Majority: 37. Votes cast: 3572. Turnout: 33%.
Didn't Fred Gee work in the Rovers return?
Known the outgoing Labour candidate for years through the Union where he was Branch Secretary and also from the old Amicus Gazette days.
Decent bloke, sadly wiped out in this former Labour stronghold!
binka
!!!!!!!!!
too wordy imo. people appreciate simplicity
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Well, they're certainly going to get that with you.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
must be why so many people appreciate you.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Anyway binka, i'd hoped you'd moved on from your constant bullying of me and other wordy types.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
he's shown some promise in the past but never achieved his posting potential
Gerry1time
Did a wee in Dirac's toilet
Lib Dem rallies don't have stewards though. If the former Labour student Anthony Barnett set it up, then it really does look like it was organised by that bunch of people who care more about democratic reform than ever being Lib Dems. They have contacts with the Lib Dems, and like the Lib Dems to support them, but only because it gets them parliamentary passes. They're largely funded by the Rowntree Foundation AFAIK. The people in the photo wouldn't be shouting like that if they were convinced they were going to get what they want, Lib Dems certainly never scream and shout for the arrival of their leader. I'd bet a lot of money I know who organised that event, and he left the Lib Dems in disgust.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
It was a bunch of people with illusions in Clegg and the lib-dems, set up and manned by the largest donors to the lib-dems. There's a reason they went to the lib-dems HQs to plead with their hero.
You even say that you think it was organised by a lib-dem member!
It seems that Tower Hamlets count has been cancelled as the building is being surrounded by a mob of howling Lutfur Rahman supporters, people inside being told not to leave by police for their own safety...
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh not so fucking clever now, is it, having their stupid town hall in the back of beyond? or making it so easy to surround, for that matter.
A lack of forward planning
Gerry1time
Did a wee in Dirac's toilet
That's what I was saying though. They weren't actually Lib Dems, Lib Dems of that age just don't look like that, and they were there not to await eagerly Nick Clegg's news as claimed above, they were there to, well, gain themselves some column inches and good photos for leaflets I imagine. The Lib Dems would love to be able to organise a crowd like that. Even back then, most people wouldn't actually be active with them, which is where things like Unlock Democracy cleaned up.
Incidentally, is Anthony Burnett really the largest donor? What about the jailed millionare, the Rowntree Foundation and Paul Marshall?
There's a whole lot of interesting politics behind who organised it, I'd say this event was effectively organised as an anti Lib Dem event, or at least an anti orange book Lib Dem event, as that's who was in there doing the negotiation. Apart from Danny 'Beaker' Alexander obv, who wasn't clever enough to have been involved in the orange book.
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
You got a similar one for Pudsey?
free spirit
more tea vicar?
sorry, had to actually do that myself in a spreadsheet.
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
OK, cheers the effort then, I thought you just nicked it from somewhere
Considering that the Green vote will likely drop at the GE that seat should be a good possibility for Labour.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I meant the jrf as the largest donor. The idea this was anti lib dem is madness. As your own suggestion that it was organised by a lib dem surely suggests. Articul8 was working centrally with the lib dems who organised this at the time. He says Anthony Barnnet was the main mover behind it. The idea clearly was to say to the lib dems that "we are with you in your fight for pr". How could expressing solidarity with the lib dems be anti lib dem?
Anyway, enough of this from me. It doesn't really matter one way or another...
Anyway, enough of this from me. It doesn't really matter one way or another...
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
Sadly yes, they even won in Horseforth (weirdos).
Doing the same breakdown as free spirit for Pudsey would give the following results
Con 32.2 (-6.3)
Lab 30.2 (-4.9)
LD 10.7 (-10.1)
Green 6.4 (+6.4)
UKIP 20.4 (+17.9)
So again another seat Labour should be looking at taking if they want a majority.
Looks like Barnet could go Labour, recount in one ward under way that will decide it
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i've not got a high opinion of barnet labour party, i had a run-in with one of their members outside the tally ho about six years ago. but i've a lower opinion of barnet tories.
also Brian Coleman of #sackcoleman and punching a voter fame lost his seat (although defending as an independent)
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