How did they come up with that name?
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How did they come up with that name?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
using their initiative
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
Up the Anti or AntiCapitalist Initiative? My guesses: ACI because they don't want to be a party but they support anticapitalism, Up the Anti because it's a clever pun.
The SYRIZA stuff is depressing though.
butchersapron
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He's only rejecting the wrong type of democratic centralism there mate, the good model of DC, the one he thinks the bolsheviks really stood for and outlines in those two articles is still the way to go for him.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
on this thread and on the swappie comrade delta thread the wrong types of dc seem to have been in full effect
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
Lefty trainspotterism makes me point out that this was the US Spartacists over Zaire '78.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
The one on the left, anyone?:
[red?]...against green
Class against class
[red?]...against green
Class against class
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Labour could stand on that manifesto in the next election against the tories and they would probably win.
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
(Northern) Ireland: Imperialist Peace A Lie! British Troops Out Now! Not Orange Against Green! Class Against Class! - Spartacist
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Cheers, btw earlier today i noticed articul8 talking to the author of those two we need proper bolshevism like syriza pieces above trying to persuade him that the real problem facing the left is not years of alienation from the class they are supposed to represent, spring from, receive support from etc which are partially due to the top-down organisational forms they choose to adopt, but..wait for it...electoral reform.
articul8
Dishonest sociopath
I said no such thing, I said that the UK FPTP system was amongst the barriers to a new left formation breaking through. It is.
butchersapron
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Yeah, that really doesn't sound anything at all like you suggesting electoral reform is a key issue. However could i have got that impression.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
They're a coalition with leninist parties involved. People like Hardy are now arguing that this is what Leninism really was all along it wasn't the centralised non-plural party that everyone argued that it was for the last 94 years.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
But the leninist parties are still leninist tho?
articul8
Dishonest sociopath
it is a key issue - which isn't to say that a PR electoral system is all that it takes
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Whoever suggested that it is? You're the one who comes closest to such idiocy.it is a key issue - which isn't to say that a PR electoral system is all that it takes
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
That would depend on what you mean by leninist!
Isn't the CWI in Greece a member of Syriza? Apparently they've got around 600 members.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
not sure, they were i think, i thought they left a few years ago.
articul8
Dishonest sociopath
where I have ever said anything close?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
What did i say? I said of the two of us you have come closest to arguing that as you believe that PR is a step forwards whereas i have no such illusions.
And please don't reply by outlining your reasons for why you consider it a step forward.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I don't care.
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