Will you get vaccinated, assuming a covid vaccine is developed?

[Wilf]

In the absence of sensible concerns or worries over whichever vaccine is made available, I'd be very keen to get it. Without going anywhere near conspiracists and and anti-vaxx scum, it's not unreasonable to take a long hard look at which company gets 'to market' first and what you are being offered, but that aside, yes, I'd have it.

I'd also be very keen for as many people as possible to get/accept the vaccine, because that's how immunity works. Same time, like others, I'm against compulsion of any sort. Not only counterproductive, but also a major boost to Icke type scum. Education and information all the way. There will be some hard decisions about whether kids can go to nursery or school if their parents refuse the vaccine, which comes close to a form of compulsion. Glad I won't have to be making those decisions.

 

[William of Walworth]

Depends on your risk profile. If you're not offered the flu vaccine then maybe you'll be somewhat further down the queue below vulnerable groups. That's not to say it won't be available privately at high street chemists.

This is all subject to a vaccine actually being developed and licenced though - it might never happen.

Bolded bit : I've been telling myself right from the start of all this, and very sternly, not to get over-optimistic about a reliable vaccine becoming available any time soon.

On the other hand, I am quite positive about a vaccine arriving eventually -- there's a ridiculous amount of different research into this going on in many countries.

So my guess is that the chances of a coronavirus vaccine NEVER happening are on the outlier side.
I won't guess on when it arrives!!
But however long it takes, I think it will more likely than not emerge at some point .....

I am aware of the depressing lack of a working vaccine (yet) against HIV, but even with this, research continues
(that link looks reputable? Do warn me though if it isn't. Doesn't look in any way loon-like anyway )

 

[farmerbarleymow]

Bolded bit : I've been telling myself right from the start of all this, and very sternly, not to get over-optimistic about a reliable vaccine becoming available any time soon.

On the other hand, I am quite positive about a vaccine arriving eventually -- there's a ridiculous amount of different research into this going on in many countries.

So my guess is that the chances of a coronavirus vaccine NEVER happening are on the outlier side.
I won't guess on when it arrives!!
But however long it takes, I think it will more likely than not emerge at some point .....

I am aware of the depressing lack of a working vaccine (yet) against HIV, but even with this, research continues
(that link looks reputable? Do warn me though if it isn't. Doesn't look in any way loon-like anyway )

Yeah, I agree that it seems likely that some vaccine or other will be developed - the question will be how effective it is. There may be more than one vaccine that can be used. We'll see over the next year or so.

From my understanding, the key reason why there isn't a HIV vaccine is simply because the virus mutates so rapidly so it's a constantly moving target. So there may never be a vaccine for that virus, unfortunately.

 

[Shechemite]

Bring it on. Fuck Soros.

 

[belboid]

I've already had a vaccine (Chadox1 Oxford trial) so wont have any issue with taking another if required.

Anyone talking about waiting 'a year or two' is, frankly, no better than the anti-vaxx shitbags. It may be understandable, but, in all but a very few cases, it is also incredibly selfish.

 

[two sheds]

The slightly concerning bit would be crowding together in the local village hall with loads of people who already might have cv. I'm sure they'll let me wait outside until my turn comes though.

 

[Chilli.s]

I'd have it, be daft not to.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I'd be first in line. What's the worst that can happen?

 

[krink]

I'd be first in line. What's the worst that can happen?

you get 5g

 

[LDC]

I'd be first in line. What's the worst that can happen?

The RFID chip they hide in the vaccine means they'll track you forever through 5G and then wipe your brain if you have any anti-establishment thoughts?

That and maybe a sore arm for a few days.

 

[Shechemite]

All medicine has to be tested. Grow a pair and take the vaccine

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

you get 5g

Of coke?

 

[LDC]

I always find it quite hilarious when people that will happily snort any white powder or pop any pill they buy from a random person or on the dark web are like "Oh no way will I trust this nasty medicine."

 

[LDC]

Fond memories of going round to someone's house for dinner with a friend who was on a raw food kick, who all the way railed against the poisonous cooked food we'd probably be served and which they'd refuse, and then made me wait outside a shop on the way while they went in for 6 cans of Stella and a pack of fags.

 

[Roadkill]

I suspect the number of people mindlessly spreading anti-vax nonsense is a lot bigger than the number of people actually willing to gamble their health on it.

Hope so, but there are enough out there prepared to gamble not only their own health on it but their children's health.

To quote a comment from a younger acquaintance of mine: 'My parents are anti-vaxxers so I didn't have any of the usual injections. As soon as I turned eighteen I went down the GP's surgery and my arm looked like a pin cushion. They weren't very happy about it, but they're wrong and they'll have to live with it!'

 

[Shechemite]

Drug abusing anti-vaxxers/medicine types tend to go on about self-reliance.

 

[Sasaferrato]

Yeah, I agree that it seems likely that some vaccine or other will be developed - the question will be how effective it is. There may be more than one vaccine that can be used. We'll see over the next year or so.

From my understanding, the key reason why there isn't a HIV vaccine is simply because the virus mutates so rapidly so it's a constantly moving target. So there may never be a vaccine for that virus, unfortunately.

At least for HIV there is very effective treatment. The drugs get the viral load down to undetectable.

If the world was prepared to act together, HIV could be eliminated in a generation. By treating all those infected, you stop transmission. When the last of the current sufferers dies, it is gone.

 

[Throbbing Angel]

immunocompromised, so yeah

 

[2hats]

At least for HIV there is very effective treatment. The drugs get the viral load down to undetectable.

If the world was prepared to act together, HIV could be eliminated in a generation. By treating all those infected, you stop transmission. When the last of the current sufferers dies, it is gone.

There has been a push to capitalise on the lockdown in order to try and get several steps closer to this.

U.K. Lockdown Has ‘Broken HIV Chain’ With Huge Reduction In New STI Cases

The U.K. is seeing a huge reduction in new STI cases with the HIV Chain "broken," in what sexual health advocates are calling a once in a lifetime opportunity.

www.forbes.com

 

[Sasaferrato]

There has been a push to capitalise on the lockdown in order to try and get several steps closer to this.

U.K. Lockdown Has ‘Broken HIV Chain’ With Huge Reduction In New STI Cases

The U.K. is seeing a huge reduction in new STI cases with the HIV Chain "broken," in what sexual health advocates are calling a once in a lifetime opportunity.

www.forbes.com

That is a cheering bit of news for a change.

At one time I was relief pox doctor, it is quite extraordinary how many cases of gonorrhoea one German kitchen worker and a barracks full of randy squaddies can generate. (23). Thankfully, the regular guy came back from leave, and saved me the problem of how to treat two wives whose husbands had infected them. Back then, gonorrhoea was treated with a single dose of 3g of amoxicillin and a gram of probenecid. (Probenecid slows the renal excretion of the amoxicillin, giving you a high blood level for longer.).

 

[Roadkill]

At one time I was relief pox doctor, it is quite extraordinary how many cases of gonorrhoea one German kitchen worker and a barracks full of randy squaddies can generate. (23).

I shouldn't laugh, but...

 

[Wilf]

I've already had a vaccine (Chadox1 Oxford trial) so wont have any issue with taking another if required.

Anyone talking about waiting 'a year or two' is, frankly, no better than the anti-vaxx shitbags. It may be understandable, but, in all but a very few cases, it is also incredibly selfish.

A tad overstated perhaps. I'm not a fan of Ulrich Beck but we are in a situation where there's been a long term decline in our faith in public bodies and agencies, leaving us to chart the waters of 'risk' ourselves. The perfect environment for anti-vaxx scum certainly, along with postmodern nasties, as well. But anxieties about things like vaccines can't be reduced down to individual selfishness.

 

[scifisam]

I voted probably on the grounds that we don't know what the vaccine will be like, how reliable it will be, and how rigourously it will have been tested. I'm in vulnerable groups for covid but that also puts me at higher risk for most things, including side effects from vaccines if they haven't been thoroughly trialled.

So we'll see, basically. It's yes, but not 100%.

 

[cupid_stunt]

you get 5g

Of coke?

 

[Boudicca]

Whilst it won't be made compulsory, I can see it being a bit like the yellow fever jab in that countries won't allow you entry without evidence that you have had it. It might also be a requirement for attending large gatherings such as music festivals, concerts and the like.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Well, I think I would resist this one, at least until it was properly proven to be safe..

NEW DELHI—The apparent speed at which an Indian government agency aims to test and approve a homegrown COVID-19 vaccine has created an uproar among scientists both in India, which is increasingly overwhelmed by the new coronavirus, and abroad. A letter leaked on Twitter on Friday suggests the first vaccines could be rolled out by 15 August, which would leave far too little time for proper testing, critics say. The Indian Academy of Sciences calls the timeline “unreasonable and without precedent.”

Science | AAAS

www.sciencemag.org

But, I would have more confidence in the Oxford one, which seems to be advancing well...

Oxford’s vaccine is already in three late-stage trials. Only one other vaccine, developed by Sinopharm, a Chinese firm, has started a late-stage trial, and it does not have the global support and finance that Oxford’s does. AstraZeneca, a British pharmaceutical company, is building an international supply chain to make sure that the vaccine is available “widely and rapidly”.

It might be clear by the end of August whether or not the vaccine is effective. A single successful trial showing efficacy would allow a regulator to approve the vaccine for emergency use – something that would probably pave the way for use in high-risk groups. That could happen in October.

The firm thinks that full approval, which would require results from multiple trials, could come early in 2021. Vaccine development routinely takes 10 to 15 years, so this would be a remarkable result.

Oxford edges ahead in vaccine race and could know in August if trials show the jab is effective

With governments all over the world pouring money into it, the effort to get a vaccine has come to resemble a more urgent version of the space race

inews.co.uk

 

[Dogsauce]

Whilst it won't be made compulsory, I can see it being a bit like the yellow fever jab in that countries won't allow you entry without evidence that you have had it. It might also be a requirement for attending large gatherings suh as music festivals, concerts and the like.

Public transport could be one place which could reasonably limit access to vaccinated only, for a limited period. Although not sure I’d be happy with the kind of surveillance infrastructure this would require. Also maybe more likely to affect the less well off.

 

[scifisam]

Public transport could be one place which could reasonably limit access to vaccinated only, for a limited period. Although not sure I’d be happy with the kind of surveillance infrastructure this would require. Also maybe more likely to affect the less well off.

Er, can't see that working. Show a vaccination card before getting on the bus? Nup.

 

[Mrs Miggins]

Fond memories of going round to someone's house for dinner with a friend who was on a raw food kick, who all the way railed against the poisonous cooked food we'd probably be served and which they'd refuse, and then made me wait outside a shop on the way while they went in for 6 cans of Stella and a pack of fags.

Yes - I had to catch myself on a few years ago for berating people for all the sugary pop they were drinking when I smoke like a fucking trooper and drink like a fish.

 

[belboid]

Well, I think I would resist this one, at least until it was properly proven to be safe..



But, I would have more confidence in the Oxford one, which seems to be advancing well...

Oxford edges ahead in vaccine race and could know in August if trials show the jab is effective

With governments all over the world pouring money into it, the effort to get a vaccine has come to resemble a more urgent version of the space race

inews.co.uk

August sounds very optimistic to me. They’ll just have got the results from Day 56 of the trial, so it would (? - I am not an epidemiologist) be too soon to tell if it was efficacious cross communities. Especially as it hasn’t been tested on high risk patients.

Full info sheet we get about the trial attached, if anyone’s interested. I’m in group 4