Will you get vaccinated, assuming a covid vaccine is developed?

[baldrick]

I'm relatively young and definitely healthy and it seems plausible that health problems caused by the vaccine are less likely than health problems caused by covid even for me so I'd be a happy guinea pig tbh. There's bound to be people who are wary and can't have vaccines for whatever reason so I'll be in the queue asap when they are available.

 

[LDC]

Whilst I'm 100% pro-vaccination I don't agree with making anything compulsory. Mostly on the grounds that it would probably backfire and result in a less successful vaccination programme.

I would happily get the vaccine but I'm likely to be near the back of any sensibly organised queue. It would also depend on the type of vaccine as I'm had medical advice not to get certain vaccines due to prior adverse reactions. Which is another reason I'm against compulsory vaccination. I know it's always going to be 'unless there's a valid medical reason' but that's far too dependent on the whichever person is making that call.

Yeah, I a bit wrote that as a reaction to the anti-vax position tbh! I generally wouldn't be totally in favour of compulsory vaccines, and agree that education is better and compulsion can backfire, but I do wonder how to counter the growing anti-vax stuff, and I think there won't be the time for education with this vaccine.

 

[William of Walworth]

Yeah, I a bit wrote that as a reaction to the anti-vax position tbh! I generally wouldn't be totally in favour of compulsory vaccines, and agree that education is better and compulsion can backfire, but I do wonder how to counter the growing anti-vax stuff, and I think there won't be the time for education with this vaccine.

I'm glad you've said this, and I tend to agree, about the urgency if a vaccine emerges.

I did like your earlier post about considering making vaccination compulsory, but only because you said 'consider' .....

My main caution/concern about compulsion is because of counterproductivity. The risk of providing fuel to the anti-vaccination fire mainly

But I also think 'fuck it ---- if we get a vaccine for this, people really, really should have it!'

 

[Supine]

People who are may well have less of an option of deciding to give it a miss for the first year or two.

Well quiet. It should be distributed on the basis of need and benefit.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Making it compulsory is a tricky one for me. I definitely find the idea very uncomfortable, and obviously you'd exclude anyone with genuine medical reasons not to have one. But in the event that we had a vaccine available and a mass vaccination programme was proposed (rather than targeting the most vulnerable) I wouldn't see 'well maybe, I'll wait and see' as acceptable really. There's a social element here isn't there - we've all been heavily restricted in our behaviour for a greater good, and vaccination would be similar IMO.

 

[Teaboy]

Well quiet. It should be distributed on the basis of need and benefit.

Thinking aloud here but there is a fair chance it won't be that effective in a lot of people who need it most. I still think they'll have to go to the route of the most vulnerable first but its probably possible to make an argument that it should be given first to the young and those who are most likely to move around and spread the virus.

Al speculation of course because no vaccine exists yet its just that the older body doesn't always react especially well to vaccines.

 

[LDC]

I'm glad you've said this, and I tend to agree, about the urgency if a vaccine emerges.

I did like your earlier post about considering making vaccination compulsory, but only because you said 'consider' .....

My main caution/concern about compulsion is because of counterproductivity. The risk of providing fuel to the anti-vaccination fire mainly

But I also think 'fuck it ---- if we get a vaccine for this, people really, really should have it!'

I started having the flu vaccine a few years ago. I'm not old enough and have no underlying health reasons to have it, and probably would rather not, but I work in healthcare so feel a sense of responsibility. Never had any reaction to it at all.

 

[tim]

Yes but I wouldn't try to be in the first year or two when it's released

There's not much point in not having it done in the first year or two; taking the risk of contracting the disease when it's still a real threat and getting vaccinated at the point when "herd immunity" has been achieved. Personally, I know that I have the intention to get vaccinated when it is possible, , but I often don't get round to the things I have to do. I hope they make the process as easy and unbureaucratic as possible.

 

[Sue]

There's not much point in not having it done in the first year or two; taking the risk of contracting the disease when it's still a real threat and getting vaccinated at the point when "herd immunity" has been achieved. Personally, I know that I have the intention to get vaccinated when it is possible, , but I often don't get round to the things I have to do. I hope they make the process as easy and unbureaucratic as possible.

Well if and when we have a vaccine, assume they'd be looking at vaccinating higher risk people first. A lot of these would surely be the same people who're eligible for the flu vaccine and that stuff is already set up pretty well ime.

 

[StoneRoad]

Voted that I definitely will, but I expect - as with the annul flu jab - to be fairly low down on the list. For the past decade, I was able to queue jump as I was getting CA for my father.

Of the four adults here, I'm the youngest by several years - the other three are almost 70 ...
and one has reduced lung capacity from suspected TB as a nipper, the rest of us all had BCG as teenagers...

 

[William of Walworth]

I started having the flu vaccine a few years ago. I'm not old enough and have no underlying health reasons to have it, and probably would rather not, but I work in healthcare so feel a sense of responsibility. Never had any reaction to it at all.

I actually am in a 'need to have it' category for flu vaccine, and I get it every November. Except for a slightly painful arm for a bit, I've never had any issues either

I do understand about genuine -- and non-loon! -- adverse reactions for a minority of people, but I've never heard anything credible to suggest these reactions affect more than a minority.

That is the flu vaccine tbf -- new disease and new vaccines most likely will be more complicated, hence the time it's likely to take to find a vaccine.

But given the time it's likely to take, I tend to trust the controlled test process.

Whatever people warn about cutting corners in the search for a coronavirus vaccine, the regulations here are surely robust enough about the need for very thorough testing, to make sure any vaccine is safe before release?

 

[StoneRoad]

Talking of herd immunity - the Spanish figures are interesting ...

Coronavirus: Spanish study casts doubt on herd immunity feasibility

A Lancet study estimates that around just 5% of the Spanish population has developed antibodies.

www.bbc.co.uk

So, despite the size of their plague outbreak, very few in the population are showing antibodies (and the scientists are still not sure how effective these antibodies are, at producing immunity, or how long this protection lasts).

 

[Sprocket.]

If I’m still physically viable when it’s proven, I will be getting one. I’m 63 next but apart from my ongoing health issues all my major organs are, I’ve been told similar to those of a forty year old.
I cannot imagine going through all I have in the last fourteen years and then end up the wrong side of the turf because I didn’t take all possible precautions.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Whatever people warn about cutting corners in the search for a coronavirus vaccine, the regulations here are surely robust enough about the need for very thorough testing, to make sure any vaccine is safe before release?

Yes - they're still going through all the various phases of testing. There's been no proposal to cut any of that out AFAIK.

 

[sojourner]

Totally would, as soon as it's available.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Of course. Anyone who refuses needs a fucking good talking to.

 

[Mrs Miggins]

I'm in the 100% yes camp as well.

 

[Steel Icarus]

I will be doing, yes. I'm offered a flu jab yearly so I'm likely to be offered this, as I was the swine flu jab.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

Of course I'll get the vaccine - because I'm not an idiot.

 

[NoXion]

What's the likelyhood that I'll be offered one? I've never had any of those flu vaccines, just the standard jabs you get at school and so on.

 

[xenon]

I don't want to be one of the first, but sure, yeah.

 

[Callie]

Well I'm hoping my antibody positive current status might be worth something even if it's temporary!

As NHS staff, not patient facing but involved in processing COVID samples I expect we will be offered any vaccine early on. Not sure how much choice will be given on that front although clearly you cannot be forced to have any vaccine at present.

Fuck it, yeah why not? Jab me up. I'll go first in the queue.

 

[xenon]

What's the likelyhood that I'll be offered one? I've never had any of those flu vaccines, just the standard jabs you get at school and so on.

I'd imagine people in general good health, non NHS or care workers, have no significant conditions that make Covid19 extra risky, and under the age of about 65 would be quite a way long down the list.

Never had a flu jab. But fortunately, I have nothing to do with the GP unless I've been ill enough to make an appointment. I guess they write to you if they think you could do with one.

 

[IC3D]

There's not even a remote chance of a compulsory vaccine being rolled out let alone under libertarian roll with it Tories. Why should everyone have it though? Wouldn't just recommending it to at risk groups be enough?

 

[SpookyFrank]

Yeah, I a bit wrote that as a reaction to the anti-vax position tbh! I generally wouldn't be totally in favour of compulsory vaccines, and agree that education is better and compulsion can backfire, but I do wonder how to counter the growing anti-vax stuff, and I think there won't be the time for education with this vaccine.

I suspect the number of people mindlessly spreading anti-vax nonsense is a lot bigger than the number of people actually willing to gamble their health on it.

 

[planetgeli]

Of course. Anyone who refuses needs a fucking good talking to.

Of course I'll get the vaccine - because I'm not an idiot.

Yeah, I can't think of a single reason, not one, why anyone might be in two minds about this and why we shouldn't shove the needle straight into their most painful place while shouting cunt and idiot at them.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Yeah, I can't think of a single reason, not one, why anyone might be in two minds about this and why we shouldn't shove the needle straight into their most painful place while shouting cunt and idiot at them.

There’s one reason. Because you think somehow it’s someone else’s job to go first. That you’re more important. That someone else should take the (tiny) risk.

What that makes someone who thinks like that I’ll leave up to you.

 

[Teaboy]

There's not even a remote chance of a compulsory vaccine being rolled out let alone under libertarian roll with it Tories. Why should everyone have it though? Wouldn't just recommending it to at risk groups be enough?

Well, one reason could be (and I'm in danger of repeating myself here) that the vaccine turns out to not be effective for large groups of the most vulnerable. This being the case their best defense would be not to get the virus in the first place which means the rest of us not spreading it around all over the place.

Also younger and otherwise healthy people are still getting ill, still dying and even the for some that survive its a long road to recovery. If you could avoid that risk then you likely would, no?

 

[planetgeli]

There’s one reason. Because you think somehow it’s someone else’s job to go first. That you’re more important. That someone else should take the (tiny) risk.

What that makes someone who thinks like that I’ll leave up to you.

Or you could read my previous post which has sweet F.A to do with your assumptions.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

What's the likelyhood that I'll be offered one? I've never had any of those flu vaccines, just the standard jabs you get at school and so on.

Depends on your risk profile. If you're not offered the flu vaccine then maybe you'll be somewhat further down the queue below vulnerable groups. That's not to say it won't be available privately at high street chemists.

This is all subject to a vaccine actually being developed and licenced though - it might never happen.