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Will you continue using a face mask after 19 July?

Will you continue to use a mask in certain situations after 19 July?

  • Yes

    Votes: 213 88.4%

  • No

    Votes: 14 5.8%

  • Maybe

    Votes: 11 4.6%

  • Don't know

    Votes: 3 1.2%
  • Total voters
    241
Mr Retro said:
I’m wondering why there was a policy of purposefully scaring people, disproportionally in my view given the actual risks.
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I'm interested in what you think a proportional response might be to a virus which - while low risk to most people - still overwhelmed the health services at the height of infections, even with the apparently disproportional restrictions in place.
 
Sugar Kane said:
Sorry Spy...you're wrong on this. There is a fourth wave closing in rapidly.
It will pick off those who couldnt get vaccinated and are still vulnerable.
And mask wearing could help prevent spread.
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Fourth or third? But I don't disagree with that. However, people will stop wearing masks if they don't have to. It'll start will the selfish but spread very quickly because the protection afforded by them relies heavily on their mass use. Once that's gone there really isn't much point being the only person in Sainsburys wearing one.
 
killer b said:
I'm interested in what you think a proportional response might be to a virus which - while low risk to most people - still overwhelmed the health services at the height of infections, even with the apparently disproportional restrictions in place.
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There were options, alternatives. Like the gov could have decided for instance that the NHS simply refuse treatment to anyone over a certain age. Can't think of anything else actually, that would have been the option.
 
bimble said:
There were options, alternatives. Like the gov could have decided for instance that the NHS simply refuse treatment to anyone over a certain age. Can't think of anything else actually, that would have bene the option.
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I was talking to a woman the other day who was advocating something like this. 'What's the point in keeping people with altsheimers alive while the economy crumbles! Its madness!'
 
killer b said:
I was talking to a woman the other day who was advocating something like this. 'What's the point in keeping people with altsheimers alive while the economy crumbles! Its madness!'
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I am sure they focus grouped it plenty as an idea.
 
Spymaster said:
Fourth or third? But I don't disagree with that. However, people will stop wearing masks if they don't have to. It'll start will the selfish but spread very quickly because the protection afforded by them relies heavily on their mass use. Once that's gone there really isn't much point being the only person in Sainsburys wearing one.
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If its an N95 mask or N99 mask then that one person will be safer.
 
Sugar Kane said:
If its an N95 mask or N99 mask then that one person will be safer.
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I think most people who are most worried about becoming infected simply won’t go out to places where many gather. I certainly don’t think that lots of people will change the type of masks they wear. I just don’t think that’s the way folk are. We’ll see though. My prediction is that barring another government order to wear them again, there’ll be hardly a mask to be seen by Autumn.
 
ska invita said:
unless ive misunderstood it, thats what it says in the article - its full herd immunity time, thats the policy...let it rip and take it on the chin etc
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I read the article and it says unmitigated delta variant spread is seven. But that’s not the case for the UK at present as the outbreak has been mitigated with mask wearing, social distancing, hand washing and vaccination.
 
Spymaster said:
I think most people who are most worried about becoming infected simply won’t go out to places where many gather. I certainly don’t think that lots of people will change the type of masks they wear. I just don’t think that’s the way folk are. We’ll see though. My prediction is that barring another government order to wear them again, there’ll be hardly a mask to be seen by Autumn.
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People who were shielding won’t take this approach well.
 
Spymaster said:
I think most people who are most worried about becoming infected simply won’t go out to places where many gather. I certainly don’t think that lots of people will change the type of masks they wear. I just don’t think that’s the way folk are. We’ll see though. My prediction is that barring another government order to wear them again, there’ll be hardly a mask to be seen by Autumn.
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They'll be wearing masks.

We have already been told that we will be wearing masks in schools next year.

I doubt the Brits will do differently.
 
Mr Retro said:
LynnDoyleCooper if you (or anybody else) can't debate & disagree without insults I will put you on ignore.

The evidence that wearing a mask does anything to protect the wearer or those they are around is not clear. I detest them, I find them oppressive and their removal of dignity and individualism really effects me. Therefore in the absence of evidence I will not wear one.

Individual freedoms have been entirely removed by government in the last 16 months. In their fear, purposely engendered by scientists, government and MSM I think many people have been quite comfortable with this totalitarianism. Now we are getting freedoms back, I believe the shrieking about masks and the common good in the last day or so on social medi is somewhere to direct the fear. I understand this and I think masks are a comfort for people. I will respect and not judge anybody who still wants to wear a mask while exercising my right not to.
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If this post contains your personal reasoning for not wearing a mask then I’m afraid you’ve reached the wrong conclusion because you’ve based it on erroneous information.

There is ample and unambiguous evidence that using masks reduce transmission of respiratory diseases, including covid. Therefore in the presence of evidence will you wear one, despite the discomfort?

Fear has not been deliberately engendered by scientists, the government and the media. The government has if anything massively underplayed the danger on many occasions (with disastrous results). Scientists, who are people too, have appeared to be more nervous about this virus because they have better information, not because they want to scare people.

I read from your posts that you are scared, and angry because you don’t like being scared - no one does - and hitting out at the source of fear. We’re all scared, you’re not alone. The tiny act of wearing a mask feels like too little to make a difference to this huge scary thing - it isn’t though. There are things we can all do together though to try to make things better.

One of the easiest and least disruptive is to wear a mask when around other people. This will reduce transmission, reduce cases, reduce pressure on the health service, and reduce illness, disability and death. It will also reduce anxiety in vulnerable people, and other people who are just anxious about what this virus will do to our society if allowed to run rampant again.

What do you say - will you join in and do your bit to help? The more of us that do it, the better off we will all be.
 
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TopCat said:
I read the article and it says unmitigated delta variant spread is seven. But that’s not the case for the UK at present as the outbreak has been mitigated with mask wearing, social distancing, hand washing and vaccination.
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They are expecting 1000 day here with the new variant by end of July.
 
Mr Retro said:
Ignoring the patronising tone of your post telling me what I will or won’t learn from a book you yourself haven’t read, I’m obviously not going to read just this 1 book, I mentioned it as I had just bought it.

I’m wondering why there was a policy of purposefully scaring people, disproportionally in my view given the actual risks.

You might think it’s a fools errand and that’s fine too but I’m going to do a bit of digging into the subject.
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“Doing my own research”
 
I fully expect there to be very little mask wearing soon. I’ll carry on indoors. I’ve cancelled a gig because I feel like going to an indoor event with no number restriction, no distancing and no masks is stupid. Ticketmaster refunded immediately which surprised me.

I’m a bit worried about people maybe challenging me on wearing one which is stupid and I really hope it doesn’t happen but I think it might.
 
I had a really shit experience yesterday, had an appointment to meet someone in a small public-facing office on the high street.
Tatty old sign on the door saying no mask no entry, as you'd expect. Woman opens the door, no mask, nobody in there was wearing one, and my instinct was to take mine off, because what the fuck is the point, or because peer pressure or i don't even know why.
Instead i left without sitting down because i didn't like the people and there was an easy excuse to delay and do it by phone instead but i did not say anything at all about the mask thing, Will do in an email later tho.
 
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