Will you continue using a face mask after 19 July?

[Leighsw2]

Have just bought some new masks from here Face masks and face mask filters for your protection | AirPop - the best in Which? tests - as am determined to carry on using public transport because avoiding it earlier in the pandemic had a huge impact on my quality of life, so want to protect myself the best I can. Otherwise though, I will carry on wearing mask in the few shops I go to and otherwise will keep outside, until case rates drop to a level I'm comfortable with.

Thanks for this tip, I've just bought one. Looks like it might be a better fit than the ab+ masks that I've been using (though I think they're very good).

 

[Chilli.s]

Workshop stuff, is a fairly heavy duty affair. The shopping and going out ones are lots easier

 

[Spymaster]

Have just bought some new masks from here Face masks and face mask filters for your protection | AirPop - the best in Which? tests - as am determined to carry on using public transport because avoiding it earlier in the pandemic had a huge impact on my quality of life, so want to protect myself the best I can. Otherwise though, I will carry on wearing mask in the few shops I go to and otherwise will keep outside, until case rates drop to a level I'm comfortable with.

Looks like some of these work out to around £5/mask.

Seriously?

 

[Supine]

LynnDoyleCooper if you (or anybody else) can't debate & disagree without insults I will put you on ignore.

The evidence that wearing a mask does anything to protect the wearer or those they are around is not clear. I detest them, I find them oppressive and their removal of dignity and individualism really effects me. Therefore in the absence of evidence I will not wear one.

You must be really fucking thick and selfish to believe this. Do you need some pictures to help you understand?

 

[Doctor Carrot]

Blimey. This works. Shame it took 16 months for someone to tell me.

This has been my crowning contribution to fighting this pandemic. I've told it to loads of people and they've all had the same reaction

 

[scifisam]

Well, I'm medically exempt due to my shit lungs, so when I wear a mask it's by choice anyway. So I will probably continue the way I am now - doing my best to wear one until it becomes too much, especially if I'm close to people. Like on the tube the other day I wore it in the station, then puled it down for a while on the open and fairly empty platform and kept it down for a bit in the carriage because the only other person (apart from my GF) was at the other end of the carriage, then pulled it back up when the carriage started filing up. Not ideal but the best compromise I could manage.

can’t say i’ve had spots or owt from wearing a mask all day. we don’t complain about our genitals being kept undercover all day nor do we think this causes zits and grease n shit

Yeah, but facial skin is different (thinner), and different people are going to respond in different ways. I get patches of eczema on my face if I've had to wear a mask for a long period.

 

[2hats]

The evidence that wearing a mask does anything to protect the wearer or those they are around is not clear.

Incorrect - DOI: 10.1126/science.abg6296.

 

[Doctor Carrot]

Another vote for 'I work in retail and you'll take my mask from my cold dead hands' here. I've been wearing a mask 8 hours a day 5 days a week for 18 months and I've no intention of stopping yet. We're still not letting customers over the threshold either.

That is the one thing I've been really lacking at work throughout, the support of my colleagues and boss in enforcing this. It started out OK but then fell apart quite quickly.

In normal times the relaxed approach my boss has is great but during a pandemic he's been a bit of a wanker. I was able to refuse to serve people without masks, and did at times, but if he didn't do it while I wasn't working and then hardly any of my colleagues did it ends up being an exhausting and losing battle.

 

[Doctor Carrot]

Well, I'm medically exempt due to my shit lungs, so when I wear a mask it's by choice anyway. So I will probably continue the way I am now - doing my best to wear one until it becomes too much, especially if I'm close to people. Like on the tube the other day I wore it in the station, then puled it down for a while on the open and fairly empty platform and kept it down for a bit in the carriage because the only other person (apart from my GF) was at the other end of the carriage, then pulled it back up when the carriage started filing up. Not ideal but the best compromise I could manage.

As a shop worker I've really appreciated people like you. Despite medical issues you've still felt it important to protect other people, you haven't moaned about the imposition of masks, haven't seen them as some sort of robot Bill Gates lizard people plot to make us all bluetooth enabled and you haven't loudly announced just how exempt you are. You've just quietly got on with it and done your best and I thank you for that

 

[Orang Utan]

That is the one thing I've been really lacking at work throughout, the support of my colleagues and boss in enforcing this. It started out OK but then fell apart quite quickly.

In normal times the relaxed approach my boss has is great but during a pandemic he's been a bit of a wanker. I was able to refuse to serve people without masks, and did at times, but if he didn't do it while I wasn't working and then hardly any of my colleagues did it ends up being an exhausting and losing battle.

even before this, we were told we still had to let people in if they told us they were 'exempt' even if they just didn't want to wear a mask. Of course, many people who felt this way just had to say they were exempt and we still of course had to let them in, but now those who are not prepared to lie can now declare themselves as cunts with impunity

 

[kittyP]

its an excuse to go about semi incognito, I'll be milking it

This ^
I feel much happier out and about the more clothes I have on (so winter I'm generally less anxious than summer) and the mask is just more stuff covering me up.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Jesus wept. Totalitarianism is it. In b4 muzzles

My favourite so far is 'face nappies'. The only way you could confuse a mask with a nappy would be if shit regularly came spewing out of your mouth, which to be fair in the case of the person ranting about face nappies was more or less accurate.

 

[kittyP]

I guess there is a subtle alienating effect of not being able to see people smiling and whatnot, but there's a more significant alienating effect of a substantial number of people around you thinking you don't give a shit about their health.

When I went to have my second jab, in the hall where you waited for 15 minutes after, a woman with a pram was in the closest chair to me.
It was quite hot so she unzipped the pram cover and I could then see the baby's face.
It looked at me and I smiled very gently at it with my mask on and it beamed a huge smile back at me.

I know masks can cause communication difficulties for some people with hearing and sight problems and for people who are neuro atypical but I don't think that's what Mr Retro was talking about.

 

[scifisam]

As a shop worker I've really appreciated people like you. Despite medical issues you've still felt it important to protect other people, you haven't moaned about the imposition of masks, haven't seen them as some sort of robot Bill Gates lizard people plot to make us all bluetooth enabled and you haven't loudly announced just how exempt you are. You've just quietly got on with it and done your best and I thank you for that

Thanks, but TBH I have moaned a bit about not liking them, especially early on. And I've argued with people who claim that masks can never, ever cause problems with breathing. I really didn't expect them to be a problem for me, but they most definitely are. (Also, I didn't really know how bad my lungs are - 40% lung function is, apparently, pretty bad - who knew? My doctors are totally relaxed about it!)

Anyway... It's completely counter-logical to think they won't help protect against airborne or droplet-based infections. How protective is arguable - and scientists aren't in complete agreement on that, and it depends on the mask - but it's totally fucking obvious that they will make a big difference.

I really would like to see them being used now and then by everyone (inc me) when they have what might be the start of a cough or cold because it's not really practical for most people to stay at home all the time when they have a mild cold, but now we've got used to masks we have an in-between option.

 

[Mr Retro]

Grow the fuck up you pathetic twat.

On ignore

 

[Mr Retro]

You're an ignorant, self-centered cock-ring.

On ignore

 

[existentialist]

On ignore

Fuck cunt shit arse twat

 

[Mr Retro]

That book won't help with your quandry of seemingly believing that scientists, the governments of the world, and the media, conspired in an amazing co-ordinated effort to scare everyone and torpedo their economies for no apparent reason.

Book's just going to be about how the 'nudge' people, behavioral scientists & gov, tried to get those who weren't scared of the virus themselves to join in the effort to stop the spread that's all.
Same sort of thing as the stop smoking Don't drink & drive public info campaigns, which all use fear too, to try to modify the behaviour of the reckless for the public good.

So it won't in any way help bolster your conviction about a vast global conspiracy involving countless thousands of people all over the planet working together to do something to absolutely no discernible benefit to themselves or anyone else apart from maybe Big Mask.

This is the weird irony with Freedom Lovers of a certain stripe, they project immense power and limitless skill to a disparate bunch of strangers, imagining a huge well run & oppressive global machine conspiring against them when in fact, really, there isn't anything like that at all. And by doing so you massively disempower yourself with your own fervent imagination.

Ignoring the patronising tone of your post telling me what I will or won’t learn from a book you yourself haven’t read, I’m obviously not going to read just this 1 book, I mentioned it as I had just bought it.

I’m wondering why there was a policy of purposefully scaring people, disproportionally in my view given the actual risks.

You might think it’s a fools errand and that’s fine too but I’m going to do a bit of digging into the subject.

 

[bimble]

Ignoring the patronising tone of your post telling me what I will or won’t learn from a book you yourself haven’t read, I’m obviously not going to read just this 1 book, I mentioned it as I had just bought it.

I’m wondering why there was a policy of purposefully scaring people, disproportionally in my view given the actual risks.

You might think it’s a fools errand and that’s fine too but I’m going to do a bit of digging into the subject.

Let us know if you find out why they did it. Bearing in mind that a few brave honest souls refused to join in the inexplicable conspiracy, such as Donald Trump, Modi in India and Bolsonaro in Brazil.

 

[existentialist]

Ignoring the patronising tone of your post telling me what I will or won’t learn from a book you yourself haven’t read, I’m obviously not going to read just this 1 book, I mentioned it as I had just bought it.

I’m wondering why there was a policy of purposefully scaring people, disproportionally in my view given the actual risks.

You might think it’s a fools errand and that’s fine too but I’m going to do a bit of digging into the subject.

Dig away. Ideally, don't stop until you see daylight.

 

[Aladdin]

LynnDoyleCooper if you (or anybody else) can't debate & disagree without insults I will put you on ignore.

The evidence that wearing a mask does anything to protect the wearer or those they are around is not clear. I detest them, I find them oppressive and their removal of dignity and individualism really effects me. Therefore in the absence of evidence I will not wear one.

Individual freedoms have been entirely removed by government in the last 16 months. In their fear, purposely engendered by scientists, government and MSM I think many people have been quite comfortable with this totalitarianism. Now we are getting freedoms back, I believe the shrieking about masks and the common good in the last day or so on social medi is somewhere to direct the fear. I understand this and I think masks are a comfort for people. I will respect and not judge anybody who still wants to wear a mask while exercising my right not to.

You find a mask "oppressive"?

Jesus wept.

Why do you think the medical staff treating covid patients in intensive care are wearing masks?
Are they "oppressed" too in your little peabrain?

 

[David Clapson]

In central Brixton you have to wear a mask outdoors because of the people who get right in your face to demand fags and money. They're so out of it that they probably know nothing about the virus. They're swapping spit with countless people every day...they're just a walking superspreader event.

 

[Spymaster]

Mr Retro's taken a lot of stick but a lot of people think the same way and despite the good intentions suggested by many on this thread, I think the reality is going to be that mask use will all but cease in a couple of months unless there's another directive to wear them. The first places they'll go completely is pubs, restaurants, and anywhere else people get pissed. Then as people see fewer and fewer others wearing them they'll decide there's not much point holding-out when hardly anyone else is.

 

[Aladdin]

Ignoring the patronising tone of your post telling me what I will or won’t learn from a book you yourself haven’t read, I’m obviously not going to read just this 1 book, I mentioned it as I had just bought it.

I’m wondering why there was a policy of purposefully scaring people, disproportionally in my view given the actual risks.

You might think it’s a fools errand and that’s fine too but I’m going to do a bit of digging into the subject.

In your world a gas mask would be the ultimate in oppression.

Imagine in the Blitz some dopeys saying "dont wear the mask...your the victim of scare mongering...it wont actually help you"

Doh!!

This fucking virus has already killed 128,268 people in the UK.

You seem to find that inconsequential?

 

[bimble]

Spymaster totally agree with you on that, don't expect to see many masks apart from on old and vulnerable people. But that's nothing to do with Mr Retro's idea that there shouldn't have been masks in the first place cos there's been a massive concerted conspiracy to scare people for a reason that he's yet to discover.

 

[David Clapson]

Mr Retro's taken a lot of stick but a lot of people think the same way and despite the good intentions suggested by many on this thread, I think the reality is going to be that mask use will all but cease in a couple of months unless there's another directive to wear them. The first places they'll go completely is pubs, restaurants, and anywhere else people get pissed. Then as people see fewer and fewer others wearing them they'll decide there's not much point holding-out when hardly anyone else is.

All of that means my mask-wearing will increase.

 

[Spymaster]

Spymaster totally agree with you on that. Thats nothing to do with Mr Retro's idea that there's been a massive concerted conspiracy to scare people for a reason that he's yet to discover.

No.

 

[Aladdin]

Mr Retro's taken a lot of stick but a lot of people think the same way and despite the good intentions suggested by many on this thread, I think the reality is going to be that mask use will all but cease in a couple of months unless there's another directive to wear them. The first places they'll go completely is pubs, restaurants, and anywhere else people get pissed. Then as people see fewer and fewer others wearing them they'll decide there's not a lot point holding-out when hardly anyone else is.

Sorry Spy...you're wrong on this. There is a fourth wave closing in rapidly.
It will pick off those who couldnt get vaccinated and are still vulnerable.
And mask wearing could help prevent spread.

 

[TopCat]

Indoors in shops and pubs and on transport. I fear the lessening of the arrangements. This will give heart to wankers demanding masks be removed by all.

 

[bimble]

The first people to Burn The Mask (popular comment i saw on daily mail yesterday) will be the vaccine refusers, which is great.