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Will you be swearing allegiance to the king?

I'll not be swearing allegiance to him. Unless he starts given large amounts of money to people and charities that need it all while damning the government I'm not interested in him.

I'll watch the coronation out of interest in the history of the event, but that's all.
 
Arlene Foster will hopefully pop a fuse when she reads about this.

Other new elements include the king voicing aloud a specially written prayer; a hymn sung in English, Welsh, Scottish Gaelic and Irish in an acknowledgment of the “rich heritage” of the UK; and the participation of female Anglican bishops.
Scotland isn't even a christian country anymore(54% over 12 yrs ago so highly likely to be way less now), so they can fucking shove the prayer and the hymn where the sun doesn't shine
 
That is much nearer and as nature intended. One levers a lid off a jar ( as in school 'leavers'). Obvious init.

Expecting consistency out of English of all languages strikes me as being utterly foolish. The plough roughly breaks through a cough and all that.
 
All this levvers shite is simply evidence of galloping cultural imperialism and like all imperialism requires resistance, using weaponry if necessary. To the barricades please.
 
Arlene Foster will hopefully pop a fuse when she reads about this.

Other new elements include the king voicing aloud a specially written prayer; a hymn sung in English, Welsh, Scottish Gaelic and Irish in an acknowledgment of the “rich heritage” of the UK; and the participation of female Anglican bishops.
There’s a growing number of those who might identify as Unionist who are embracing the Irish language. Such classes have been organised by people as diverse as David Ervine’s (PUP) widow. My old man, brought up in a Presbyterian household, was fluent in Irish 🙂
 
Shabana Mahmood, the Labour elections campaign chief, said it was a “lovely idea to involve the people” and that the oath was a “lovely touch”.

She said she, as a Muslim MP, had already sworn allegiance to the king on the Qur’an and would be “joining in at the weekend as well”.

However, other politicians were more sceptical, including the Green co-leader Adrian Ramsay, who said of the coronation: “I will watch it because it’s a key time for the nation but a pledge is somewhat outdated.”

Jenny Jones, a Green peer, also cast doubt on the idea of asking the public to swear allegiance to King Charles and suggested the £100m-plus bill for the coronation would be better spent on paying nurses. “Asking us to chant our allegiance does seem an odd request when so many of us think that the monarchy is an outdated institution that needs drastic reform. And I really think that the king is rich enough to pay for his own coronation, not us taxpayers,” she said.

The Labour MP Clive Lewis said of the proposed oath: “The Church of England exhorts lots of things. Some of them on compassion in politics and wider society and others on the dangers of inequality and greed. These statements I agree with. I can also see how they connect with the broader teachings of Christian teaching. But this is the ‘high church’ making this pronouncement and I think it’s one that will either be unwelcome or ignored by many.

“As Jesus is said to have said: ‘Give unto Caesar what is his.’ And this ain’t it.”

Republic, the anti-monarchist organisation protesting against the coronation, said: “Asking people to swear allegiance to Charles and his heirs means swearing allegiance to Andrew. In a democracy it is the head of state who should swear allegiance to us. This is an offensive and tone-deaf gesture that holds the people in contempt.”

The new tradition, revealed on Sunday, will involve those watching the coronation on television, online and in parks and pubs being encouraged to swear aloud their allegiance to the monarch in a “chorus of millions of voices”.

They will be invited to say the words: “I swear that I will pay true allegiance to your majesty, and to your heirs and successors according to law. So help me God.” The declaration replaces the traditional homage of peers.

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Lambeth Palace insisted the idea that members of the general public would pledge allegiance to the king was an invitation, not an expectation.

Amid derision at the plan, the London headquarters of the archbishop of Canterbury said it was an offer to those who wanted to join in the words being spoken at the coronation service at Westminster Abbey.

Lambeth Palace said that while some people would want to say all the words out loud, some might only want to say “God save the King” at the end, and others might want it to be a moment of private reflection. People should decide for themselves, the palace said.

The archbishop’s office said it was intended to be a moment of joy and celebration, both in the abbey and in homes across the country and beyond.

The coronation liturgy, published this weekend, was drawn up by Lambeth Palace in close consultation with the king. The archbishop, Justin Welby, said the liturgy’s new elements “reflect the diversity of our contemporary society
 
There’s a growing number of those who might identify as Unionist who are embracing the Irish language. Such classes have been organised by people as diverse as David Ervine’s (PUP) widow. My old man, brought up in a Presbyterian household, was fluent in Irish 🙂

Sure there’s probably many decent unionists and there seems to be a general sense of shared destiny developing amongst the more progressive people from both sides of the divide

Arlene ain’t one though.
 
Noticed how Queen Consort Camilla is being referred to as Queen Camilla? She will be coronated too next weekend.

Which means that the king and queen will be the head of the Church of England, God's representatives on earth. Yet the pair of them were too sinful to be able to marry in a Church of England church.

It's almost as if the whole monarchy and religion thing is just a load of old bollocks designed to perpetuate power and oppression. Who knew?
 
What time does all this hoo Ha start and finish anyway? The Corrination I mean, not the monarchy. I have been avoiding it quite well so far.
 
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Noticed how Queen Consort Camilla is being referred to as Queen Camilla? She will be coronated too next weekend.
No she'll be crowned.

Which means that the king and queen will be the head of the Church of England, God's representatives on earth.
The queen will not be the head of the Church of England.

Yet the pair of them were too sinful to be able to marry in a Church of England church.
No, they married in a Church of England church. And you know why Henry VIII created the Church of England, right?

It's almost as if the whole monarchy and religion thing is just a load of old bollocks designed to perpetuate power and oppression. Who knew?
You?
 
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