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moon23 said:
He voted for gay marriage in the second reading and supports it. He's also campaigned for LGBT+ issues within the party, and I know a number of LGBT+ Lib Dems who have been part of Tim's campaign and are very supportive of him.

As he has said

“It is important to be very, very clear that I voted for the legalisation of equal marriage and support it, and will fight very hard against any attempts to water it down – which there might be.”

He added: “Put simply, there were a couple of amendments that were about the protection of essentially religious minorities, conscience protections, and I kind of voted for those. Me doing something like that, which is about protecting people’s right to conscience, I definitely regret it, if people have misread that and think that means I’m lukewarm on equal marriage.” Asked if he would take the same decision again, he said: “No, I would vote for equal marriage.”
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He hasn't campaigned for any such thing. Why don't you fuck off again or stop lying?

'kind of voted'
 
belboid said:
So he avoided a direct answer, and tried to mealy mouth his way out of it. Scum.

"the Bible is clear about sexuality of all sorts”

Bigot.
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It's possible to personally believe one thing, but as a Liberal also believe that everyone has a right to live their life as the choose so long as they don't hurt others. A comparison would be someone who thinks abortion is wrong, but that it's up to the individual to choose, and you shouldn't judge others for their choices.

The hallmark of a true Liberal is someone who is able to defend someone else's right to do something they don't condone themselves (so long as it isn't hurting anyone else)
 
moon23 said:
It's possible to personally believe one thing, but as a Liberal also believe that everyone has a right to live their life as the choose so long as they don't hurt others. A comparison would be someone who thinks abortion is wrong, but that it's up to the individual to choose, and you shouldn't judge others for their choices.

The hallmark of a true Liberal is someone who is able to defend someone else's right to do something they don't condone themselves (so long as it isn't hurting anyone else)
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You don't condone homosexuality? You tolerate it?

Disgusting gurning simpleton.
 
moon23 said:
He voted for the main passage of the bill in parliament, for instance he voted for it at the second reading. Hence why on the 'They work for you' website it says he voted strongly in favour of it. The idea he opposes gay marriage is really a smear a put out by the Lamb campaign during the leadership contest.

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/11923/tim_farron/westmorland_and_lonsdale/divisions?policy=6686
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He kind of voted against it and did the same on other questions of social equality.
 
butchersapron said:
You don't condone homosexuality? You tolerate it?

Disgusting gurning simpleton.
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Personally I don't condone or condemn it as I don't even see it as a moral issue. As far as I'm personally concerned people should do whatever they enjoy and that's their own business.

The point I'm making is there are many many religious people who don't personally condone it but also don't judge others about it. That's because they are liberally minded and want to protect the right for others to live their lives how they see fit.
 
butchersapron said:
Are you kind of calling him a liar?
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No because he's said himself he supports and he voted for it. He voted for it on the first and second reading on 5th Feb 2013 and for allowing armed forces personal outside of the UK to marry on 5th March. That's why the independent 'they work for you' website states he voted strongly in favour of same sex marriage.

The only bit he didn't vote for was in relation to an amendment that would have protected some religious people who didn't want to carry out ceremonies themselves. He abstained on that vote. He subsequently says he regrets doing that because of the way it's been used to try and make it to people he opposes same sex marriage.
 
moon23 said:
It's possible to personally believe one thing, but as a Liberal also believe that everyone has a right to live their life as the choose so long as they don't hurt others. A comparison would be someone who thinks abortion is wrong, but that it's up to the individual to choose, and you shouldn't judge others for their choices.

The hallmark of a true Liberal is someone who is able to defend someone else's right to do something they don't condone themselves (so long as it isn't hurting anyone else)
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He's a bigot. And you're defending his bigotry. The true mark of a Liberal, will say and believe anything for a scrap of power.
 
belboid said:
He's a bigot. And you're defending his bigotry. The true mark of a Liberal, will say and believe anything for a scrap of power.
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If a Liberal does anything for power why aren't they all members of one of the two main political parties.

Would be a lot easier to obtain a position of public office as a Labour or Tory careerist.
 
moon23 said:
If a Liberal does anything for power why aren't they all members of one of the two main political parties.

Would be a lot easier to obtain a position of public office as a Labour or Tory careerist.
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Because you're all fucking stupid as well. As proven by your abysmal record in office. Talentless berks like Farron could only get chosen by your bunch of no hopers
 
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jul/17/surge-english-snp-members-scottish-nationalist-party

An SNP London branch that meets each month has been gaining Scottish, English, Welsh and Irish members, according to Chevis, a 49-year-old who runs a business providing proof-of-age and identity cards. Some of the branch’s 600 members take part in telephone canvassing and polling of Scottish voters, and a number were on the ground in Scotland helping out with the SNP’s election campaign this year.

Sturgeon’s strong performances in election debates broadcast across the UK was regarded as a factor in raising the party’s profile outside of Scotland. Polls indicated that she was Britain’s most popular leader and that the SNP would get more votes than the Liberal Democrats if it fielded candidates across Britain. Voters were asked by Survation to imagine that the SNP and Plaid Cymru were standing in all constituencies in Great Britain including their own, and the results gave the SNP 9% of the vote, one point above the Lib Dems.
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lol
 
belboid said:
Because you're all fucking stupid as well. As proven by your abysmal record in office. Talentless berks like Farron could only get chosen by your bunch of no hopers
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You seem to have got more sweary and judgemental since I last posted here. It doesn't suite you. You're a nice guy
At heart.
 
I've back on the board 5 min and already sworn at, called a liar and basically bullied. So I'm off again.

Next time you complain Urban75 is a boring place without diverse commentators reflect on your own behaviour.
 
According to Staines...when His Holiness the leader of the LDs rose to address the house as leader for the first time this pm...there were 0 (zero) other LD MPs present to hear his holy words.
Can this really be true?
:D
 
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