Why the lib-dems are shit

[brogdale]

He didn't

Didn't suppose he did really. Sounds like a bit of plum.

 

[frogwoman]

Lib dems stopped the privatization of the NHS apparently!

 

[brogdale]

Lib dems stopped the privatization of the NHS apparently!

Stop it, you'll make me sweary.

 

[butchersapron]

He did, he really really did:

 

[butchersapron]

Look at him top right, like some shit singer from the rakes.

 

[DotCommunist]

NO to AV as well.

 

[brogdale]

Look at him top right, like some shit singer from the rakes.

looks more like some southern, snake-botherer preacher to me

 

[butchersapron]

This from the lib-dems is going to come back and bite them very very soon:

‘Cyril Smith’s acts were vile and repugnant and we have nothing but sympathy for those whose lives he ruined. His actions were not known to or condoned by anyone in the Liberal Party or the Liberal Democrats.’

Some of the people he assaulted were lib-dem members ffs.

 

[SpackleFrog]

Apologies for linking to the Daily Heil but this is explosive:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...yril-Smiths-industrial-scale-child-abuse.html

 

[J Ed]

Surely this has to be sabotage http://labourlist.org/2014/04/another-lib-dem-bar-chart-fail/

 

[brogdale]

Surprised it's as high as 6% tbh....

Support for the Liberal Democrats amongst student voters has slumped catastrophically since the last election, a new poll reveals today.


A poll of 1,200 students in higher education institutions throughout the UK reveals it has fallen from a high of 50 per cent just before the last election, following leader Nick Clegg's first TV debate of the campaign, to just six per cent in the latest poll.

The poll also pushes the party into fourth place among student voters, behind:-



Lab (43%), Con (24%) Greens (14%) - and in danger also of being overtaken by UKIP (5%), (which has seen a rise in support from 2%).

and Anthony @YouGov says the methodology was valid...

Just for the record though, today’s Independent has a properly conducted poll of students by YouthSight(we’ve met them here before, under the name of Opinionpanel). This was a panel based survey amongst undergraduate full-time students, recruited via UCAS and validated through an ac.uk email address, weighted by type of university (Russell, pre-1992, post-1992, specialist), year of study and gender.

Also posted in the polling thread.

 

[Nylock]

Surprised it's as high as 6% tbh....

Support for the Liberal Democrats amongst student voters has slumped catastrophically since the last election, a new poll reveals today.


A poll of 1,200 students in higher education institutions throughout the UK reveals it has fallen from a high of 50 per cent just before the last election, following leader Nick Clegg's first TV debate of the campaign, to just six per cent in the latest poll.

The poll also pushes the party into fourth place among student voters, behind:-



Lab (43%), Con (24%) Greens (14%) - and in danger also of being overtaken by UKIP (5%), (which has seen a rise in support from 2%).

and Anthony @YouGov says the methodology was valid...

Also posted in the polling thread.

aaahahahahahahahaaaahahahahahahaaaahhahahaaaaa!

from 50% to 6%...

...i guess that's what you get when you decide to fuck your constituents up the arse

 

[Bernie Gunther]

aaahahahahahahahaaaahahahahahahaaaahhahahaaaaa!

from 50% to 6%...

...i guess that's what you get when you decide to fuck your constituents up the arse

In a sense, that's what's happened to nuLabour too, but they've found replacement constituents from a different class (or something)

 

[Nylock]

true... trouble is for the libdems, the majority of their support in recent years has come from students -the very constituents they immediately shafted on gaining power. At least for nulab there were enough voters on the right of the labour party plus voters on the left of the tory party to help sustain their 'project'*.

*yes, this is a very simplistic reading of things wrt nulab etc

 

[weltweit]

It is all very well, they may be shit, but that does not prevent there being a possibility they could still be in a power sharing agreement after the next election.

 

[butchersapron]

It is all very well, they may be shit, but that does not prevent there being a possibility they could still be in a power sharing agreement after the next election.

What do you estimate the likelihood of that at?

And any coalition the lib-dems may be in will most def not be a 'power-sharing' agreement - it'll be a clinging on by their fingertips agreement.

 

[butchersapron]

true... trouble is for the libdems, the majority of their support in recent years has come from students -the very constituents they immediately shafted on gaining power. At least for nulab there were enough voters on the right of the labour party plus voters on the left of the tory party to help sustain their 'project'*.

*yes, this is a very simplistic reading of things wrt nulab etc

Yes, i need to do a lib-dem seats with significant student populations thing to work out just how many seats this tuition fees stuff has cost them.

 

[weltweit]

What do you estimate the likelihood of that at?

Impossible to estimate, why what is your view?

 

[butchersapron]

Impossible to estimate, why what is your view?

It's not impossible to estimate. It's quite easy. There will be no hung parliament, there will be a labour majority.

 

[J Ed]

It is all very well, they may be shit, but that does not prevent there being a possibility they could still be in a power sharing agreement after the next election.

Surely a Labour + Nationalist coalition is more likely than a Lib Dem + anyone else coalition?

 

[DotCommunist]

they will go into coalition with the Buspass Elvis Party, being as they'll be on about the same vote share

 

[brogdale]

Surely a Labour + Nationalist coalition is more likely than a Lib Dem + anyone else coalition?

If it involved the 6 Scots Nats it might be a very short-lived coalition.

 

[belboid]

Surely a Labour + Nationalist coalition is more likely than a Lib Dem + anyone else coalition?

it's not really on the nats interest to do that. How could the SNP blame Labour for everything when they were in government with them? Labour could go for a minority government, they probably wont get a majority.

 

[weltweit]

It's not impossible to estimate. It's quite easy. There will be no hung parliament, there will be a labour majority.

I am having difficulties seeing Milliband as our PM.

 

[butchersapron]

Who votes on that?

 

[weltweit]

Who votes on that?

Surely he could lose it for them.
If I recall correctly there was due to be a Labour win when Kinnock lost it for them.

 

[killer b]

Kinnock didnt lose it for them. The polling was wrong.

 

[butchersapron]

Surely he could lose it for them.
If I recall correctly there was due to be a Labour win when Kinnock lost it for them.

How could he lose it for them? His ratings are well behind the parties. People will vote labour to vote against the tories. It could have your face on it and they would vote labour.

 

[butchersapron]

Kinnock didnt lose it for them. The polling was wrong.

Bingo - i hate this stuff that 'the polls didn't predict'- they're not there to predict but to record.

 

[Santino]

I am having difficulties seeing Milliband as our PM.

Unlike the popular, statesmanlike Cameron, you mean?