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Clegg claimed, when put on the spot about Rennard that he was - despite earlier denials/lies - aware of non-specific allegations about him. I wonder how far back we can date his awareness of non-specific allegations around Hancock (in reality, pretty specific). We can go back four years on this thread -as can the papers.
 
butchersapron said:
Clegg claimed, when put on the spot about Rennard that he was - despite earlier denials/lies - aware of non-specific allegations about him. I wonder how far back we can date his awareness of non-specific allegations around Hancock (in reality, pretty specific). We can go back four years on this thread -as can the papers.
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Depends which specifics, he can take his pick, such weasel words. Maybe he wa not specifically aware that Hancock was alleged to have gone on about his peg leg. Perhaps a defence may yet be mounted along the lines of 'he thought peg leg was cockney rhyming slang for nick clegg'. Blair had a Third Way, the Lib Dems have a Third Leg.
 
elbows said:
Depends which specifics, he can take his pick, such weasel words. Maybe he wa not specifically aware that Hancock was alleged to have gone on about his peg leg. Perhaps a defence may yet be mounted along the lines of 'he thought peg leg was cockney rhyming slang for nick clegg'. Blair had a Third Way, the Lib Dems have a Third Leg.
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Yep, depends on specifics. That's what will hang him though - because he was aware of specific allegations when he said that he wasn't and the people making the allegations have the evidence to prove it. He hopes that he get to choose and pick what are specific allegations, but, he doesn't. The victims do. Otherwise he is simply dismissing their specific allegations, refusing to recognise them before it was convenient to him to do so. Like so many of their recent moves, it's inept backfiring and leaves no escape room.
 
This I assume?

MIKE Hancock will keep his seat on the cabinet of Portsmouth City Council.

The decision was made at a three-hour meeting of the Liberal Democrats at the civic offices.

In a statement read out by deputy leader Councillor Hugh Mason they said: ‘The group decided that the Independent councillor Mike Hancock should retain his seat on the cabinet of the city council.

‘This was decided because Cllr Hancock is best placed to fulfil the role of cabinet member for planning, regeneration and economic development.

‘Cllr Mike Hancock no longer remains a member of the Portsmouth City Council Liberal Democrat Group because, having had his membership suspended by the party at national level, it is not possible for him to remain a member of the city council group until the suspension is lifted.

‘The group acknowledges that the suspension has been imposed before he issue to which suspension relates has been properly and fairly determined through due process in the courts.’
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http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/politics/hancock-keeps-his-role-on-city-council-cabinet-1-5832940
 
SLK said:
In case you weren't clear, do as you are told.
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Total misreading little miss flimsier - i was saying that the more shit people can pile on the lib-dems the better. Better luck next time.

This morning the three lib-dem candidates for the deputy leader position all pulled out of appearing on Sunday Politics with Andrew Neil - one of them literally explaining that as a result of Rennard and other sex-pests they did not want to put themselves in a position where they could be asked difficult questions. That literally was what she told them.
 
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butchersapron said:
Total misreading missy - i was saying that the more shit people can pile on the lib-dems the better. Better luck next time.

This morning the three lib-dem candidates for the deputy leader position all pulled out of appearing on Sunday Politics with Andrew Neil - one of them literally explaining that as a result of Rennard and other sex-pests they did not want to put themselves in a position where they could be asked difficult questions. That literally was what she told them.
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FS
 
(The loathsome) Staines is posting that the Sun, (behind their paywall) are reporting on evidence that Clegg's office received "Annie's" complaints about Hancock in 2011:-

The heartbreaking pleas from a vulnerable young woman to Nick Clegg have been revealed. As reported in this morning’s Sun, the Deputy Prime Minister cruelly ignored a letter from “Annie”, sent under her real name, as she begged three years ago to “please stop” MP Mike Hancock “before it is too late before someone else gets hurt and abused by him.”

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The Portsmouth South constituent, who is accusing her MP of abusing her after she went to him for help, sent Clegg this chilling warning in March 2011:

“He cannot be trusted and he is a liability to women, public and also your party. Stop the behaviour from him and his staff and whoever is involved with Mr Hancock as this is holy wrong. And please reply to this letter as it is very important to me that I get answers from you”

Nick Clegg said on Friday that he was “appalled” when he “first heard specific allegations” at the beginning of 2013 and that he had “acted immediately” to suspend Hancock as MP. He said “some letters were sent and some were not received.” This one was.
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brogdale said:
(The loathsome) Staines is posting that the Sun, (behind their paywall) are reporting on evidence that Clegg's office received "Annie's" complaints about Hancock in 2011:-
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Julie Bindel was quoting from that same letter in an article for the spectator this time last year - and she has seen the full letter. So we have multiple attestations as to its existence. The police were aware of the victims allegations from sept 2010. Clegg here will say it wasn't passed on and the tape doesn't say that it was - or what was passed was non-specific.
 
Btw, that Bindel piece has more details on other appalling behaviour by Hancock. After the victim was fobbed off by parliamentary watchdogs:

In despair, Annie sent details of Hancock’s behaviour directly to Lib Dem-led Ports-mouth City Council, where he sits on several high-profile committees. They replied that their investigation protocol was complicated (they blamed the new Localism Act) and would be dealt with by a subcommittee. Five months later, nothing has happened — because Hancock has repeatedly requested adjournments on grounds of ill health. On 1 February, the day that the subcommittee was due to meet to consider the complaint, Hancock was working at his constituency office, and during the afternoon attended a meeting with local traders.
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As well as Ashdown being sent a letter about Hancock's behaviour in the 90s but, again, no reply was ever received.
 
Jesus, they're shit....

A Liberal Democrat councillor who is due to face trial for sexual offences against a child has been suspended by the party.

Weymouth and Portland Borough councillor Ryan Hope, 22, is accused of seven charges, including rape of a child and sexual assault of a child.

He denied all counts when he appeared in court in Dorchester in September.

The Lib Dems said he should have been suspended last year when he was charged but blamed a "communication failure".

A spokesman at the party's national headquarters described the allegations as "extremely serious".

He added: "Councillor Hope has been suspended ... this should have happened last year but a failure to communicate the situation from the local party to the national party meant this did not happen."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-25925725
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Maybe they weren't aware of 'specifc allegations". At least they didn't publicly and officially wish him good luck as the lib-dem council leader did to a lib-dem councillor who went on the run and was subsequently found to have child porn on his computer (late convicted of both the child porn and the charges he legged it from).
 
butchersapron said:
Maybe they weren't aware of 'specifc allegations". At least they didn't publicly and officially wish him good luck as the lib-dem council leader did to a lib-dem councillor who went on the run and was subsequently found to have child porn on his computer (late convicted of both the child porn and the charges he legged it from).
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Apparently, they were made aware by the local Lab party:-

The leader of Dorset's Labour Party Richard Baker has written a letter to the head of the Liberal Democrats in Dorset and Borough Councillor Ian Roebuck, saying Councillor Hope should step down from his post:

"South Dorset Labour calls on you to take action on behalf of the people of Westham North. Giving the safeguarding issues that have been raised in relation to these charges, we question his suitability to continue as a councillor."

Baker went on to add; "In these circumstances South Dorset Labour Party calls for Cllr Hope to stand down forthwith so that a by-election can be called in order that the people of Westham North can elect a representative who is able to focus entirely on their needs."

We fundamentally accept Councillor's Hope right to be treated as innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Having said that, we have to take note of the serious nature of the charges against him, we think by now Councillor Hope should have taken the decision to strand down."
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http://www.wessexfm.com/news/dorset...ymouth-councillor-to-resign-amid-sex-charges/
 
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