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Why the lib-dems are shit

Emma Gilpins-Jacob said:
I chose to leave because my strategic global, corporate-focused communications experience will be better utilised in a less day-to day-political operational role – and it’s all very amicable
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I read that as "bastards were yelling at me (when they weren't groping me)".
 
Cant be arsed to find a link, but I saw a pompous PPB type thing for the Euro Elections earlier, or about 20 seconds of it.

In it, Nick Leg said that the May elections are about whether we are "in" or "out" of Europe.

Now, I'd really like to think the Deputy PM knows the basic technicalities of national politics, in that any "in/out" decision is for our parliament and/or people in a referendum (if Mr Leg is abreast of current affairs he will have heard a fair amount of talk of this)

So I guess there's always the possiblity that he's being a disingenous weasle who thinks we're all very stupid, including remaining LD supporters.
 
Council by-election result...beaten to Fourth place by TUSC.:D

Arbourthorne on Sheffield (Lab Defence, last elected in 2012)
Result: Lab 1,398 (52% -15% on 2012), UKIP 482 (18% +2% on 2012), Con 213 (8% -1% on 2012), TUSC 204 (8%, no candidate in 2012), Lib Dem 161 (6% -2%), Green 143 (5%, no candidate in 2012), Eng Dems 75 (3%, no candidate in 2012)
Labour HOLD with a majority of 916 (34%) on a swing of 8.5% from Lab to UKIP on a turnout of 20%
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Main thing that I think helped TUSC was having a local candidate, Alan, who's well known and as far as I can tell pretty well respected in the area (it's a huge council estate, and of the candidates only Alan and the Tory actually live there, and IIRC all the rest live in much posher parts of the city), a representative of the residents association who has been involved in bedroom tax meetings and who has stood there several times before.
 
SpineyNorman said:
Main thing that I think helped TUSC was having a local candidate, Alan, who's well known and as far as I can tell pretty well respected in the area (it's a huge council estate, and of the candidates only Alan and the Tory actually live there, and IIRC all the rest live in much posher parts of the city), a representative of the residents association who has been involved in bedroom tax meetings and who has stood there several times before.
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so it's fair to say a respected local organiser with a history of good, meaningful activity based around the community's self identified needs?

Cool. Thanks for the quick reply.
 
treelover said:
Surely the main story there is that UKIP, a party primarily( at least up to now) about leaving the EU got 18% in what is a working class ward.
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They've been averaging 20%+ in these wards for a year now. And in this ward that's only +2% on two years ago. I.e not that much progress - and on a turnout that was 1/3 down, is actually a step backwards considering results elsewhere.
 
Well, we'll see how things turn out on thursday - polling suggests they're missing that target vote by some margin,

Anyway, back to the lib-dems - are the poles (so not bothering with a pun of some sort here) going to save them?

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Quartz said:
More likely the Lib Dems are going to become a spent force in 100 days; UKIP are looking more and more a farce, not a force.
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On what do you base this? Their solid polling across a range of social and geographic areas? Their excellent local election results? Their favourable media image? Their heightened national profile?
 
Quartz said:
More likely the Lib Dems are going to become a spent force in 100 days; UKIP are looking more and more a farce, not a force.
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Quartz. That was what we call a joke. Its humour is derived from the idea that Nick Clegg is known to break his promises, and relies as background upon the general shitness of the Lib-Dems. Its conceit is that if Nick Clagg announces that he intends to work to stop UKIP becoming "a Major Force in 100 Days", the the likely effect is the opposite. C/F Tuition Fees, the Mansion Tax, VAT etc, and of course the ineptitude of the AV Referendum, which worked out so well for the Lib-Dems*. Often humour is destroyed by signposting or overworking the punchline, as the laugh is obtained, in this case, by the speed with which the audience recognises and connects the juxtaposition of the relayed news story with the generally held perception, indeed, contemporary social convention, of Clegg as a promise-breaker with a background of ineptitude. The joke begins with a swear-word, which underlines the horror and frustration at hearing that in this instance an undesired outcome is in fact something Clegg has promised to do something about. "Oh no", the joke is saying, "that means the undesired outcome will become actuality!" Laughter is provoked by the coming together, then, of recognition, a release of tension, and, in small measure, a sense of the absurd, as the prospect of UKIP becoming a "major force" is, in the world-view of the joke, both horrifying and ridiculous.

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*sarcasm.
 
butchersapron said:
And the bees.
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This joke is based upon the meme that so often promises to save us from catastrophe are these days given a time-scale of 100 days. These time-scales are proven to be meaningless by the frequency with which the deadline is passed and replaced by another, so that our in-boxes are filled with the clamour of what become to us meaningless exhortations for immediate action, day after day, deadline after deadline, and the propsed action is often the call to do something ineffectual, pointless and ultimately disempowering . These calls are usually made by liberals, and one forms the impression that perhaps disempowerment is the aim. Here the connection between the 100 day deadline meme and liberal ineffectualness is at the centre of the humour.

Bees, like bananas, are also inherently funny.
 
danny la rouge said:
Quartz. That was what we call a joke. Its humour is derived from the idea that Nick Clegg is known to break his promises, and relies as background upon the general shitness of the Lib-Dems. Its conceit is that if Nick Clagg announces that he intends to work to stop UKIP becoming "a Major Force in 100 Days", the the likely effect is the opposite. C/F Tuition Fees, the Mansion Tax, VAT etc, and of course the ineptitude of the AV Referendum, which worked out so well for the Lib-Dems*. Often humour is destroyed by signposting or overworking the punchline, as the laugh is obtained, in this case, by the speed with which the audience recognises and connects the juxtaposition of the relayed news story with the generally held perception, indeed, contemporary social convention, of Clegg as a promise-breaker with a background of ineptitude. The joke begins with a swear-word, which underlines the horror and frustration at hearing that in this instance an undesired outcome is in fact something Clegg has promised to do something about. "Oh no", the joke is saying, "that means the undesired outcome will become actuality!" Laughter is provoked by the coming together, then, of recognition, a release of tension, and, in small measure, a sense of the absurd, as the prospect of UKIP becoming a "major force" is, in the world-view of the joke, both horrifying and ridiculous.

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*sarcasm.
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I don't get it.
 
http://www.theguardian.com/politics...rne-timetable-eliminate-uk-structural-deficit

Well no surprise here. Despite Cable and others slamming osbournes austerity forever prescription as 'ideological' and commentators predicting that the lib dems would not be able to support this post 2015 - Clegg has signed them up for it. So much for 'differentiation'.

Strangely, this was on the front of the grauns website but has since vanished - I had to search for it. This is their most significant (and suicidal) announcement to date about future policy and it gets no coverage?
 
Quartz said:
More likely the Lib Dems are going to become a spent force in 100 days; UKIP are looking more and more a farce, not a force.
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Christ can you ever get anything right, this is as much nonsense as the "Socialism" of David Cameron.

They've maintained a largely consistent level in the polls for a year now and the upcoming elections stand a good chance of giving them their best results ever.
 
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