Why the lib-dems are shit

[butchersapron]

This the result:

Ancoats & Clayton By-Election

Labour 1239
UKIP 166
Green 89
Conservative 82
Pirate 79
BNP 58
Lib Dem 44

Turnout 13.5%

 

[brogdale]

Anyone else?

 

[DotCommunist]

Turnout 13.5%

on what planet is this fucking quorum

 

[butchersapron]

...and they couldn't even find a candidate to stand in Salford where they used to get elected.

 

[William of Walworth]

Ha! Some of these lame-brains can't do internet!

Or patience

I got as far as to the same MCC 'elections and voting' page but went fail after that ...

 

[se5]

...Bracknell Lib Dems are trying to sell the Bracknell bandstand on ebay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/THE-BRACK...dern-Pavilion-Gazebo-Going-soon-/251355653049 even though they have no authority to sell it having zero councillors in Bracknell. Currently the bids are around £150,000 which makes it look like the cheap publicity stunt that it is

 

[brogdale]

...Bracknell Lib Dems are trying to sell the Bracknell bandstand on ebay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/THE-BRACK...dern-Pavilion-Gazebo-Going-soon-/251355653049 even though they have no authority to sell it having zero councillors in Bracknell. Currently the bids are around £150,000 which makes it look like the cheap publicity stunt that it is

Total bell-ends.

This sounds very LD...

5. We reserve the right to add any reasonable terms or conditions that may need to added on issues that we become aware of during the auction....

 

[DotCommunist]

these mugs haven't realised that political obscurity becons come 2015

 

[brogdale]

these mugs haven't realised that political obscurity becons come 2015

That is a superbly apposite typo!

 

[William of Walworth]

Best thing about election night 2015 by far will be the steamroller-style obliteration of almost all Lib Dems. Can't wait!

 

[brogdale]

Best thing about election night 2015 by far will be the steamroller-style obliteration of almost all Lib Dems. Can't wait!

Yes....but let's not forget that most LD incumbents have tories in 2nd place. Sure, they'll be a few gains by NL, but with a projected swing against the tories and the LDs fabled incumbency/local machine, they may hang on to more of their seats than we might anticipate?

http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/2015guide/libdemdefence/

 

[ViolentPanda]

on what planet is this fucking quorum

The issue of voter numbers not constituting a quorum/being quorate is certainly a "live" one. Too many "democracies" (including ours) don't ask themselves "how few is too few?" or "why so few?", because it isn't in the interests of power to interrogate such questions..

 

[weepiper]

Lid Dems come seventh in Manchester bye election behind the BNP and a man in a pirate suit!

They came eighth in the Govan by-election

Labour 2055
SNP 1224
No 2 Bedroom Tax 446
Tories 215
UKIP 113
Green 112
Ind 103
Lib Dem 73
Christian Party 60
Fans Against Criminalisation 52
Communist Party 35
Solidarity 28
BNP 19

Turnout was 20%

 

[brogdale]

They came eighth in the Govan by-election

Labour 2055
SNP 1224
No 2 Bedroom Tax 446
Tories 215
UKIP 113
Green 112
Ind 103
Lib Dem 73
Christian Party 60
Fans Against Criminalisation 52
Communist Party 35
Solidarity 28
BNP 19

Turnout was 20%

Beat the christos, though!

 

[butchersapron]

A thief speaks:

Parliament has forsaken our liberty. Law is the last resort
Who sanctioned the snatching powers of the secret state? Blair? Straw? David Miliband? It's ripe for judicial review

This is your govt and your votes that are leading to Judicial Reviews being out of the range of most people subject to the law. It's happening. Not to you you Private school oxbridge dick - you own the law.

 

[William of Walworth]

'No 2 Bedroom Tax' candidate in Glasgow came 3rd, which is surely cool as fuck

 

[weepiper]

'No 2 Bedroom Tax' candidate in Glasgow came 3rd, which is surely cool as fuck

He was a previous Labour councillor, well-known in the local area apparently

 

[Delroy Booth]

'No 2 Bedroom Tax' candidate in Glasgow came 3rd, which is surely cool as fuck

Sad to see the Communist Party doing so badly, historically wouldn't that area have been one of their strongest? Wasn't Jimmy Reid from Govan?

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

Sad to see the Communist Party doing so badly

Who gives a shit?

Well done to the anti-bedroom tax person

 

[weepiper]

Sad to see the Communist Party doing so badly, historically wouldn't that area have been one of their strongest? Wasn't Jimmy Reid from Govan?

Not that sure of your point here, given that AFAIK Jimmy Reid spent longer as a Labour Party member and as an SNP supporter than CPGB

 

[Delroy Booth]

Not that sure of your point here, given that AFAIK Jimmy Reid spent longer as a Labour Party member and as an SNP supporter than CPGB

True enough I was just thinking of that time in February 74 when he looked like he was gonna win a sit for a short while, but it was a different constituency so nevermind.

Just my inner stalinist pining for the 70's that's all

 

[butchersapron]

Think we mentioned in thread, but he's now been convicted and sentenced:

Denbigh ex-mayor John Larsen jailed for 18 years for bomb explosions

A former mayor has been sentenced to 18 years in prison for a series of explosions in Denbigh which a neighbour described as sounding like a "battlefield".

John Larsen, 46, got a "thrill" from his actions, which had the potential to kill, Caernarfon Crown Court was told.

The explosions happened in the Lenten Pool area from January to April.

In the most serious incident, he blew up a Land Rover, showered ball-bearings and shrapnel over a large area.

Larsen was found guilty earlier on Thursday of three counts of arson, one of causing an explosion likely to endanger life and another of possessing explosives with intent to endanger life.

 

[butchersapron]

This is the uk polling report summary of the latest Ashcroft polling in scotland:

Anyway, I’ll leave you to read Lord Ashcroft’s report for yourselves, but for the record it also contained Westminster voting intention figures for Scotland, concucted earlier this month. CON 18%(+1), LAB 40%(-2), LDEM 6%(-13), SNP 31%(+11), UKIP 2%(+1). Changes are from the 2010 election and reflect a big swing from the Lib Dems to the SNP. If it was repeated as a uniform swing across Scotland the Lib Dems would be reduced to three seats in Scotland, the Tories would gain two seats, Labour would gain two and lose one, the SNP would go up to 11 seats.

 

[brogdale]

Nick Clegg has said he is entitled to call Tory climate sceptics "deniers" despite a warning by the government's chief scientist that it is an "abusive" term.
The Deputy Prime Minister said that while he accepts the advice of Sir Mark Walport, he does not agree with his choice of "verbs, adjectives and nouns".

And we're entitled to call you a lying tory cunt.

 

[goldenecitrone]

Chris Huhne's ex on Question Time tonight. Probably have Jeffrey Archer lined up for next week.

 

[butchersapron]

Beaten by the BNP ,Greens UKIP and two independents in Stoke last night:


Anthony Munday (City Independents) 861 (32.27%)
Sam Richardson (Conservative Party) 504 (18.89%)
Candi Chetwynd (Labour) 444 (16.64%)
Mick Harold (UK Independence Party) 333 (12.48%)
Gary Elsby (Independent) 313 (11.73%)
Michael Anthony White (British National Party) 79 (2.96%)
Adam William Colclough (Green Party) 50 (1.87%)
Tom Grocock (Liberal Democrat) 32 (1.20%)
John Davis (Independent) 27 (1.01%)
Liat James Norris (Trade Unionists and Socialists Against Cuts) 25 (0.94%)

(And if TUSC are returning those figures in Stoke it's time to give up. I think the City Independents are ex-labour who left went Tristram Hunt was selected, need to check though)

 

[belboid]

I think the City Independents are ex-labour who left went Tristram Hunt was selected, need to check though)

they are - as was Gary Elsby

 

[butchersapron]

On top of that 32 votes in stoke they also got 30 and 26 in two seaton seats (UKIP scoring around 450 in same seats - in fact UKIP stuff them in every seat contested last night).

 

[Kaka Tim]

How long can they keep chanting 'mid term blues'? They have been flat-lining on 10% for three years now with no variation other that which is down to margin of error. That is not a 'fickle' electorate - swinging from party to party on the back of a soundbite - that is cast iron contempt. Those votes are not coming back. A year ago, I thought their vote in the GE would maybe climb back to the mid teens - but now I'm pretty sure they are stuck on 10%.

The breezy lack of concern from the lib dems over their imminent destruction is breathtaking - no plots, no rebellions - nothing. I'm disappointed - I want to hear the squeals of political agony from the cunts.

After 2015 they will be hollowed out - no money, half of their mps gone, their local council base withering away - and who in their right mind is going to join them as an activist?

 

[co-op]

How long can they keep chanting 'mid term blues'? They have been flat-lining on 10% for three years now with no variation other that which is down to margin of error. That is not a 'fickle' electorate - swinging from party to party on the back of a soundbite - that is cast iron contempt. Those votes are not coming back. A year ago, I thought their vote in the GE would maybe climb back to the mid teens - but now I'm pretty sure they are stuck on 10%.

The breezy lack of concern from the lib dems over their imminent destruction is breathtaking - no plots, no rebellions - nothing. I'm disappointed - I want to hear the squeals of political agony from the cunts.

After 2015 they will be hollowed out - no money, half of their mps gone, their local council base withering away - and who in their right mind is going to join them as an activist?

I think it's Eastleigh - it's made them unbelievably complacent. But Eastleigh isn't going happen in 50 seats at once, you can't flood 50 seats with activists from all over the country. And you're not going to be up against a really really bad candidate like they were in Eastleigh.

They are sleepwalking over a cliff.