butchersapron
Bring back hanging
10% social housing in Hallam...
Why the Lib Dems are great
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Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
OH YES!!!!!!
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
About another 10%+ of student housing, according to my nephew (who studied at the eponymous uni), so a bit of campus agitation (if anyone can motivate the NUS to stir their arses) might be apposite.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Yep - 12% FT students, plus a massive ex-student vote as well, 35%+
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
ITn almost makes me want to move to Sheffield, just to kick start the 'clegg out' campaign
Lib-Dems have shown there true colours over the past 6 month's, they are not fit to be in office, they will get a hiding at the next local elections, no matter if it was the monster looney party or green peace, lib-dems would have been more than happy to have shared power,they have no principles.
Clegg is a yes man, he is a liar and he has ruined his party just to get there 5 years of fame.
Clegg is a yes man, he is a liar and he has ruined his party just to get there 5 years of fame.
co-op
But....but cLoWnFiSh....
What are the odds he ends up with a nice safe tory seat somewhere in the Home Counties?
Utter wanker.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
At least, the parliamentary Lib-Dem party have. I don't really agree with Lib-Dem politics in general, but I know plenty of grass-roots Lib-Dems who're as disgusted as anyone else at what Clegg and Co are doing.
So it's fortunate that most of the Lib-Dem MPs, even those with ministerial positions, have no real power.
What's unfortunate is that they're providing a perfect fig-leaf for the Tories to do whatever the fuck they want and get away with it.
Clegg is entirely a product of his environment. Why anyone expected any better from an establishment cunt is beyond me.
articul8
Dishonest sociopath
Blue Moon,
he started signing too soon,
now he's not signing at all,
he's shown he knows fuck all
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
It'd hardly be surprising if he "went Tory", given that he and the Orange Book mob favour policies that are crypto-Tory anyway.
Mind you, a safe Surrey Tory seat would be a nice pay-off for him, for the amount of arse-licking and fig-leafing he's done in the past five months, let alone the amount he'll do before the next election.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
His programming is probably being updated at ConDembot central.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
yup, and 9/10s of the "Why the Lib Dems are great" boils down to "Err, no, the lib dems are shit, actually!"
co-op
But....but cLoWnFiSh....
It'd hardly be surprising if he "went Tory", given that he and the Orange Book mob favour policies that are crypto-Tory anyway.
Mind you, a safe Surrey Tory seat would be a nice pay-off for him, for the amount of arse-licking and fig-leafing he's done in the past five months, let alone the amount he'll do before the next election.
Given that Hallam surely looks a gonna in the next GE and given what he's done for the Tories I can't believe they'd refuse him a seat. He really has screwed the lib-dems.
In an ideal world they would have left him with a fully-functioning brain but because of the mess that Labour have left it has to be slashed for the greater good of ensuring that the rich people don't flee the country.
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
Leave him alone. He's got a big day tomorrow and he needs an early night.
Cheers - Louis MacNeice
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
actually, being grudgingly and reluctantly fair-minded, that goes for me too. I've known - still do - a lot of pretty decent LDers at the grassroots, some with surprisdingly progressive politics, even today. They're truly devastated by all of this
People are being hit accross the board, banks are allready having a levy placed on them, and CGT has allready gone up
Bank Levy £8.3Bn
Rise in CGT
50% rate on tax
Hitting high earners on > £44K by removing child benefits
Reducing Defense spending
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
As you know perfectly well, Labour's bank levy would have bigger, they already had the 50% income tax in place, you bottled it on total defence cuts - SURPRISE! - just as you bottled it on the CGT rise (The whole point was to raise it to 40%, to prevent people using the CGT as a tax avoidance scam, and two people on £22.1k each, in the south east of England, does NOT constitute 'higher earners'; in fact, one person on £44k doesn't add up to that much, in London anyway.
Jesus, this mindless parroting of the party line is bad enough, but doing it this badly is a fucking joke
e2a; my mistake, due to being overworked; it's ONeperson earning £44,001 which gets dibbed on child benefit - still not a lot in t'south, and still a kick in the personals for all the mums bringing up kids at homwe (and that's a full time job all right).
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
So trident won't be replaced with a like for like system; excellent news.
Perhaps the money saved could be pumped into a social housing build programme.
Louis MacNeice
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
so they'll just delay it till next parliament
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
Well moon said the lib dems had won the case on trident and as their policy was no like for like replacement of trident, I presumed this was what he meant. Has this not really happened?
Cheers - Louis MacNeice
stethoscope
Well-Known Member
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
LIb-dem manifesto commitment:
So another lib-dem defeat. In what way does putting it off meet either of these commitments?
So another lib-dem defeat. In what way does putting it off meet either of these commitments?
Not within this parliment, a future government might still decide to replace it.
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