Do a Google brings up loads of results.
You do realise I have zero interest in how good a runner he was yes?
Why the Lib Dems are good and effective
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Do a Google brings up loads of results.
You do realise I have zero interest in how good a runner he was yes?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Yes, I realise that. Me neither.
Googling that merely shows the amount of bullshit on the web – he was never even nearly 'the fastest white man on the planet', and I would defy you to find a credible source that says he was ever known as that. It's just bollocks that's been put out there by some over-zealous publicity type.
Googling that merely shows the amount of bullshit on the web – he was never even nearly 'the fastest white man on the planet', and I would defy you to find a credible source that says he was ever known as that. It's just bollocks that's been put out there by some over-zealous publicity type.
i think people are too harsh on Lib Dems. Without them the Tories would be freezing child benefit, cutting housing benefit , forcing the half dead to fill in disability questionaires etc
Oh now wait a minute!!!
Refused as fuck
"ethnic pakistani tosser"
pwned by the bagle. has to hurt.
elbows
Well-Known Member
When Im feeling generous I suppose I will give them credit for the tories dropping the inheritance tax cuts idea. This leaves them with an impossibly long way to go to make up for all the other tory stuff that they have enabled.
I did notice that Ming was making thinly veiled negative comments about Nick Clegg on some program that was detailing the creation of the co-alition. Whats up with that anyway, 8 billion drooling words were lazily spilled by journalists during the coalition building, and it wasnt even 3 months ago, why am I seeing a detailed documentary about it on my telly already?
I did notice that Ming was making thinly veiled negative comments about Nick Clegg on some program that was detailing the creation of the co-alition. Whats up with that anyway, 8 billion drooling words were lazily spilled by journalists during the coalition building, and it wasnt even 3 months ago, why am I seeing a detailed documentary about it on my telly already?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
it is a 'pivotal moment in British politics' and represents a new era. As reinforced by spunking out docus about it as soon as possible. New politics!
elbows
Well-Known Member
Ahh, certain reporters having their egos touched by the heavy hand of history on their shoulders, they are part of something special and get to swan around the special places and talk to the special people who are making history, woooo. And this stuff is also probably the latest variant of 'bbc being really very nice to incoming government/pm' as they did with Gordon Brown and others before him, before eventually adopting a less referential tone about our great leaders, except under certain kinds of national emergency when they will go back into great leader rahh rahh rahh mode.
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
I think this highlight the problem quite nicely, the implication being that most people on benifits don't need any more support, after all there just work shy scrounger anyway eh. See lib dem=tory, always has.
ymu
Niall Ferguson's deep-cover sock-puppet
1) 800,000 people taken out of tax altogether - millions more to follow in next three years
2) pensions finally linked to earnings after 13 years of no movement by Labour
3) end to child detention
4) referendum on electoral reform
5) plans for an elected house of Lords
6) pupil premium for poorest children
7) a deputy prime-minister willing to speak his mind over Iraq at the despatch box
8) scrapping ID cards
9) review of 28 day detention without charge
10) no third runway at Heathrow
11) High Speed Rail extended across country
12) Banking Levy
13) Capital gains tax raised to 28%
14) investment in cancer treatment particularly new cancer drugs
15) an end to LGBT asylum seekers being sent back to countries of origin where they risk being persecuted
16) support for Ken Clarkes rehabilitation agenda in relation to prisons
17) renewing traditional ties with Commonwealth countries like India
18) plans for a gay marriage bill
19) Devolution in NHS, Education and police forces
20) major investment in renewable energy and no public subsidy for nuclear
21) better benefit support for people that really need it
more to come...
1) Benefiting the rich far more than the poor, with the benefit for the poor completely eliminated and substantially reversed by the increase in VAT. The poorest 10% are paying proportionately more in tax after the last budget. How can he defend this?
6) Whilst sucking schools in the poorest areas dry to fund "free schools"
7) And then apologise profusely for it. Jebus, that's clutching at straws.
8) Tory policy
9) Tory policy
10) Tory policy
12) Tory policy
13) Less than a basic rate tax-payer. Whoopee-doo!
14) Wasting money on drugs which are not cost-effective is not a good thing, and it's pure populism. The paltry £50m fund for this will not go far and, by definition, would be better spent on more cost-effective treatments (ie would purchase more health gains with the limited resources available).
17) Because we will need a rich customer when the Tories finally screw the economy and we will be providing the sweat-shops to supply ASEAN. Wonderful.
19) Wut?
20) Really?
21) Showing his true colours here...
Most of the rest hasn't happened yet. Labour made all sorts of promises in 1997, remember?
stethoscope
Well-Known Member
Ymu has excellently responded to most of your supposed good things about the Lib Dems, but on this one:
Clegg has already sacrificed that as part of the deal breaker when the coalition was formed.
Clegg has already sacrificed that as part of the deal breaker when the coalition was formed.
Doctor Carrot
Marxist Henchman
I'm surprised anyone bothered to take each point in turn. The mere fact that those lib dem front benchers nodded like dogs when that gimp Osbourne systematically took a sledge hammer to the welfare state and increased VAT. They also smiled when it was announced that the Tories will be doing exactly the same to the NHS that they tried to do in the 1980s but with an added boot in the face this time round. Your partner's a bell end for defending this bullshit.
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
The most effective thing they have done so far is forcing the resignation of Gordon Brown. At least the Labour party may have an electable leader in the next election.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
That was me above, lib-dem scum
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Not being part of an an effective attack on the working class?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
What would be be worse if it wasn't for the lib-dems?
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
Are you developing some kind of stutter? Have a glass of water.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
To a member of the clegg army nothing is impossible eh?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I only wanted PR!!!!!!!! ME!ME!ME!
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
You should have voted Labour then. Too late now you've gone and let the tories back in. No wonder you feel so guilty.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Ask your partner if he's read the orange book.
If so, what does he think.
If not why not?
If so, what does he think.
If not why not?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
waffle, lib-dem voting waffle. I can smell it from here. You're one of the 'voted for PR' types too. They done you lot right up fucking tight didn't they? I love you and your AV.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I voted for pr. Not this
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
You fucking dangerous easily used clowns.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
BA, the libs are to be jailed or disenfranchised. They mean well but cannot be allowed. I envisage them having limited franchise by having them toil in social policy think tanks and then those that say things that I like might be allowed out of the camps.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
What is the social base of the lib-dems - upwardly mobile w/c people (as individuals) - what have the lib dems just ensured will not happen for 20+ years. Social mobility. They are many form of geni.
London_Calling
Pleasant and unpatronising
Given they didn't for 15 years, do you think New Labour will care any more about social mobility than the record shows, or than (((NICK))) does now?
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