bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
I was replying to umop apisdn. His logic on this one is fatuous and you're right, the problems with the statement of his extend beyond washing its hands of prison reform.
Why do some feminists hate transgender people?
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You're the one who's trying to turn my comments into a discussion about prison reform.
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
which part of 'don't talk such tosh' did you have difficulty with? do you think the authorities took my views into account?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
might as well as him to show you where you've made a case.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
your views
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
"Criminal justice" is currently (and will remain, under our present system of governance) something that is exercised on people "top-down". Although we don't have incidences as egregious as transportation for 7 years for stealing a loaf of bread because some JP thinks that the poor need to be taught a lesson, we do still have institutionally-classist and racist attitudes that mean poor women are more likely to get custodial sentences for crimes their middle-class sisters would be fined for, and if you're poor and non-white,then you're fucked.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
I sense that I may be criticised for posting this, but I've had a few tonight and I'm rather taken with this story..
Britain's oldest tree appears to be undergoing a sex change after 3,000 years
Wonder what Germaine would make of it?
Britain's oldest tree appears to be undergoing a sex change after 3,000 years
Wonder what Germaine would make of it?
Sea Star
have you ever explored your dark side?
I try to understand you I really do. I can see you're not against me but I can;t bear to read your Tweets on this subject, and not because I disagree with you. I disagree with people all the time. I actually struggle with internal turmoil when I read what you write. you write in the most insensitive way imaginable.
no need to reply, just saying. I won't be returning here again for a while. already reached the limit of what I can deal with.
Why does it matter that some feminists might not like transgenders? Everybody everywhere dislikes something or somebody
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wobbly
because they actively campaign to deny the existence of trans folk.
So?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Are you going to tell transwomen to 'get over it', JT? 
No, why would I?Are you going to tell transwomen to 'get over it', JT?
Suits me. Wouldn't want to get soup splashes on my laptop.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
It's effectively what you have done already, tbh.
Sirena
Don't monkey with the buzzsaw
I think it is because there is an oldskool (and really puritanical) tendency within the women's movement (going back to some American feminist writers of the 70s) which has always found the whole transgender thing unacceptable. And the clash is between that tendency and the transgender community which in the last few years has found a common voice.
If it was just Germaine Greer mouthing off, people could take that as her just being a controversialist and you could accept it or argue it as you see fit.
When it comes to the thing that caused the explosion ('Glamour' magazine nominating Caitlyn Jenner as 'woman of the year'), I would have been on Germaine Greer's side. But Germaine Greer has always been part of this tendency and the problem lies there.
I think you'll find I haven't said anything about transgenders.
The point is how can anybody campaign to deny the existence of something that does indeed exist?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
You've not read the thread, eh?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
from the first post it was obvious. He's not even glued a tash on
Actually no. I've no strong opinion on the subject. I'm just a bit bored. Got a cold.
How do you know I haven't?
dylanredefined
Not a house elf a tiger
Welcome to planet earth will you be staying long?
Because they hate them as if people can swap sex it kinda defeats men are men and women are women and the two are different things need to stay different or else.
Also letting trans people into narrative diminishes women some how.
The things that preoccupy some people.Welcome to planet earth will you be staying long?
Because they hate them as if people can swap sex it kinda defeats men are men and women are women and the two are different things need to stay different or else.
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wobbly
can you not see a problem with people who have decided to speak for others using what power they have to attack those more vulnerable than themselves?
Yes, but like I said, it's inevitable.
billy_bob
Air of bewilderment model's own
Can you see the inherent problem in only joining a conversation in order to say that it's pointless even talking about it?
Maybe.
dylanredefined
Not a house elf a tiger
The thing is trans people go through hell to get to the state where they think they will be accepted and then they find they face bigotry from people preaching tolerance. I'd be upset as well
It's a mad, crazy world.
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