Why did Lady Di die?

[Larry O'Hara]

It's a toss-up between Class 30 (I particularly like the inclusion of sago) and entertainment...

there you go again--an anonymous gutless coward. I am glad that you hate, because it shows you have a lot to fear.

 

[Larry O'Hara]

Since I was away from this thread, the tenor seems to be

a) irrelevancies about owls
b) further digs at me by that coward lap-top
c) various expressions of joy about Diana dying.

In which case, here, I'll leave you to this: but when Operation Paget concludes return to the matter in print.

 

[Azrael23]

You might find people would be more than willing to help you with your questions if you took the time and trouble to do some basic background research first, rather than expecting people to do it for you all the time.

So far your 'questions' have consisted of rather clueless idle speculation, barely worth the effort of answering.

You've mumbled some nonsense about all the CCTV questions being mysteriously turned off, yet as soon as more information was requested about this remarkable claim you refuse to back it up.

So were all the CCTV cameras nobbled or not? Did you check this claim with a credible source?
Or did you make it up?

Ahhh, so you are incapable of real discussion.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Ahhh, so you are incapable of real discussion.

He asked you some questions, can you answer them?

 

[Relahni]

Where is the she was murdered for being a crack smoking whore option?

 

[editor]

Ahhh, so you are incapable of real discussion.

You claimed that every single CCTV camera on the route was "malfunctioning," inferring that something fishy had gone on.

In an attempt to get a "real discussion" on the subject, I asked you a set of perfectly reasonable and relevant questions about this claim.

Here they are again:

What's your source for the claim that every single CCTV camera was malfunctioning?
How many cameras should have been operating?
Have you asked what happened to the cameras?
Were they normally reliable?

And if - as you are clearly suggesting (no need to be coy!) there was some sort of 'fixing' going on, how come there haven't been teams of CCTV operators, mechanics, technical staff, supervisors and other related operatives telling people that the cameras were mysteriously nobbled that night?

After all, I can't see any reason why all those people would keep quiet if something out of the unusual happened - can you?

If you're incapable of answering my questions because you haven't done any research/got the story from a dodgy website, why not just say so now instead of all this pointless posturing and undignified wriggling?

 

[laptop]

I am glad that you hate, because it shows you have a lot to fear.

Maybe someone with professional experience can help me here - but isn't mistaking criticism (or even derision) for hatred textbook paranoia?

 

[Larry O'Hara]

Maybe someone with professional experience can help me here - but isn't mistaking criticism (or even derision) for hatred textbook paranoia?

You are fooling nobody, not even yourself. Anybody who cares to peruse your posting history will be aware that you have constantly, consistently, attacked me in a snide manner in any thread we are both on. You are an anonymous gutless coward--go and get help for that, tosser.

 

[William of Walworth]

So were all the CCTV cameras nobbled or not? Did you check this claim with a credible source?
Or did you make it up?

Ahhh, so you are incapable of real discussion.

It's a perfectly reasonable question. I'd like to know the answer myself.

And if it's true, what do you conclue from it?

 

[editor]

What's your source for the claim that every single CCTV camera was malfunctioning?
How many cameras should have been operating?
Have you asked what happened to the cameras?
Were they normally reliable?

And if - as you are clearly suggesting (no need to be coy!) there was some sort of 'fixing' going on, how come there haven't been teams of CCTV operators, mechanics, technical staff, supervisors and other related operatives telling people that the cameras were mysteriously nobbled that night?

After all, I can't see any reason why all those people would keep quiet if something out of the unusual happened - can you?

If you're incapable of answering my questions because you haven't done any research/got the story from a dodgy website, why not just say so now instead of all this pointless posturing and undignified wriggling?

Repeated once again in the hope of an answer.

 

[scifisam]

I've never understood the 'she was killed because she was going to marry a Muslim' claim.

For a start, who says she was going to marry him? They hadn't exactly been seeing each other for very long. Secondly, why would the Royals/the Govt. care? She wasn't a Royal any more, really; her theoretical Muslim kids wouldn't be in line to the throne in any real sense. Sure, they'd care if Charles wanted to marry a Muslim woman of childbearing age and raise their kids in Islam, but that's all.

I can certainly imagine the driver being cajoled to have a drink - by Dodi perhaps. 'Have some of my champagne! What, my champagne's not good enough for you? Are you insulting me?' Or maybe he thought he'd be OK with the one or two drinks he had. Those things do happen all the time. It's not as if Henri was even a regular Royal chauffeur. Poor bastard.

As for the press all being in on it, evidenced by them covering Di a lot in the days before she died: that would require all of the national press being in on the conspiracy, and all of them being willing to kill one of their biggest front-page stars.

Landmine companies most likely wouldn't care about some Eurotrash campaigning against them. It's not as if, pre-Di, everyone thought landmines were great, wholesome objects and only Di opened their eyes to how brutal they are.

Charles did it? What, and his sons just don't care? They seem to be as close to him as ever. He'd already divorced Di; she didn't stand in the way of him marrying Camilla.

There are some odd things about the way she died - but there are about most sudden deaths.

 

[snouty warthog]

As for the press all being in on it, evidenced by them covering Di a lot in the days before she died: that would require all of the national press being in on the conspiracy, and all of them being willing to kill one of their biggest front-page stars.

it wouldn't necessarily need any of the national press to be in on
it, and personally, I would find that a bit bizarre... all it would take would be someone who controls a lot of the media to decide to put Di on the cover for a week. even they might not have an agenda- they could be getting orders from above, or it could be done as a 'favour'.

I am not saying that this is how it did happen. I am saying it is possible without the complicity of the media. I haven't decided on what I think happened... maybe I never will.

 

[scifisam]

So ... they put Di on the cover a lot to make it seem more likely that there would be lots of paps after her? Is that the train of thought? That's the only one I can think of.

 

[Cobbles]

It's all the fault of the way that French Emergency services operated.

Sketchleys would only have taken an hour to get "Di" out of Mercedes seats.......

 

[snouty warthog]

So ... they put Di on the cover a lot to make it seem more likely that there would be lots of paps after her? Is that the train of thought? That's the only one I can think of.

possibly yeah... I don't know. or to create a climate where news about Diana would have a maximum impact... yeah, to kind of create a storyline that would make sense, and a backdrop to the crash somehow, by making sure she was very visibly in the public eye at the time. once again, I am not saying that is what happened- and there would legitimately be a lot of coverage of her on holiday with her lover anyway, I presume... the amount of coverage struck me as strange, before the crash... but if the crash hadn't happened I probably wouldn't have remembered this.

I worked in an old-people's home cleaning at the time, so I saw all the newspapers, well, all the tabloids anyway. and there was this sense I got that they were almost grooming her into this fairytale style romance, the 'princess of people's hearts' kind of image, as she came to be remembered. yeah, I thought the style of writing was weird, if I remember now, almost like she was being eulogised, yeah that's it, eulogised as if a fairytale princess had just reached her happy ending... I wonder if I could find an article online from the time...

anyway, it's something I initially mentioned in passing, and that I am musing on- there are far weirder allegations about the events surrounding her death... like this one-

New witnesses have told British detectives, leading a fresh enquiry into the fatal August 1997 accident, they saw a motorcyclist point a laser into the eyes of chauffeur HENRI PAUL, causing the Mercedes to crash inside the Pont De L'Alma tunnel in Paris, France.

One witness said he saw "an enormous radar-like flash of light", reports UK newspaper the Daily Express. article here

 

[editor]

I thought the style of writing was weird, if I remember now, almost like she was being eulogised,

So all the press were all in on it too, yes?

One witness said he saw "an enormous radar-like flash of light", reports UK newspaper the Daily Express.[/b]

Good grief. Since when did radar come in the form of "enormous flashes" of visible light?

 

[oooomegrapes]

wow

not getting to the whole furore of this thread


but am so so shocked to see that so many urbanites pass off her dying as a mere traffic fatality................jeeeeezzzzz the monarchy really have you in their hands dont they????

goodness me

 

[snouty warthog]

So all the press were in on it too, yes?

if you read post #132, I clearly state that the press would not need to be 'in on it' too.

Good grief. Since when did radar come in the form of "enormous flashes" of visible light?

I am merely quoting. the person I am quoting said it was a radar-like flash of light.

I am not advancing any theory- as I have stated, I don't know what happened that night. how could I? I wasn't there, and neither was anyone else here (as far as I'm aware). I am merely pointing out unusual phenomena observed by witnesses.

 

[oooomegrapes]

if you read post #132, I clearly state that the press would not need to be 'in on it' too.

I am merely quoting. the person I am quoting said it was a radar-like flash of light.

I am not advancing any theory- as I have stated, I don't know what happened that night. how could I? I wasn't there, and neither was anyone else here (as far as I'm aware). I am merely pointing out unusual phenomena observed by witnesses.

o welll fuck me sideways, its a personal attack instead of a well formed argument, well done, hurrah!!!!!!

 

[laptop]

I am merely quoting. the person I am quoting said it was a radar-like flash of light.

And you didn't apply a moment's thought to consider that you're quoting someone who has a very poor grasp on reality?

How can a flash of light resemble something invisible?

But their account Throws Doubt On The Official Story, so you like it.

I was there and I saw the giant owl, with its claws aflame and sevenscore serpents in its beak.

See?

 

[editor]

jeeeeezzzzz the monarchy really have you in their hands dont they????

Sorry, I've really no idea what you're on about here.

Who's the Queen (Gawdbless'er) and the rest of the uppercrust gang got in "their hands"?

If that's what you meant.

 

[snouty warthog]

o welll fuck me sideways, its a personal attack instead of a well formed argument, well done, hurrah!!!!!!

what's a personal attack? on who? on ed? I like ed, I think he makes some genuinely funny comments... where's the 'attack' you speak of?

 

[oooomegrapes]

Sorry, I've really no idea what you're on about here.

Who's the Queen (Gawdbless'er) and the rest of the uppercrust gang got in "their hands"?

If that's what you meant.

IMHO

she was pregnant with dodis child..........this could never happen within the english monarchy...........therefore......... the rest is history, we, as the english public are led to believe her death was due to 'other' circumstances, am not convinced myself.......

 

[editor]

IMHO

she was pregnant with dodis child..........this could never happen within the english monarchy...........therefore......... the rest is history, we, as the english public are led to believe her death was due to 'other' circumstances, am not convinced myself.......

Err.. she was no longer "within the" (non-existent) "english monarchy".

She had already been divorced. She had no claim on the British (see that word?) throne. She was not part of the monarchy.

Oh, and she wasn't pregnant either.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3376857.stm

You're not doing very well here, you know.

 

[editor]

....where's the 'attack' you speak of?

We're united on this one! I've no idea what he/she is on about.

 

[snouty warthog]

We're united on this one!

peace an' love, baby!

 

[oooomegrapes]

Err.. she was no longer "within the" (non-existent) "english monarchy".

She had already been divorced. She had no claim on the British (see that word) throne. She was not part of the monarchy.

Oh, and she wasn't pregnant either.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3376857.stm

You're not doing very well here.

im really not interested in a tittle tattle argument with you on a personal level, my disbelief still holds firm with the masses that pass this is off as your average RTA (which is my initial disbelief and comment)

i dont know the ins and outs as you obvioudly do, but i do know id rather go with my gut instinct than government and daily mail type statistics

 

[editor]

i dont know the ins and outs as you obvioudly do, but i do know id rather go with my gut instinct than government and daily mail type statistics

Err, the 'not pregnant' claim comes from a coroner who saw her post-mortem. And the pathologist.

The doctor, who examined Diana's womb at the princess's postmortem, said: "This theory is the last straw. I know she wasn't pregnant. I have seen inside her womb."

He denounced as "rubbish" rumours that a French pathologist colluded in disguising the princess's so-called pregnancy. And he declared it was "impossible" for Prince Charles to have plotted Diana's death in a car crash.

“The pathologist spoke to me. And he was closer to me than we are to one another, and said to me and to the room at large, ‘Well, she wasn’t pregnant,’” says Thompson. “He divided the womb, looked inside, and was quite certain that this lady in this instance was not pregnant.”

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3376857.stm
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=13791657&method=full
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/20/48hours/main612794.shtml

 

[oooomegrapes]

o
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i thought you were more astute to really buy into what the monarchy told what the world to report???

 

[snouty warthog]

my disbelief still holds firm with the masses that pass this is off as your average RTA

fair enough, IMO... so much went on that night, that it is hard to find any kind of solid truth. myself, I have some questions... but I respect your judgement that it is one of the many RTA's that take place all over the world every day...