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Conspiraloons – why...?

zArk said:
Doesnt negate the fact that in The Mahabharata there is a passage which seemily describes a nuclear explosion.

surely you are not disputing that the splitting of the atom led to the creation of a nucler bomb. btw did i mention einstein? nope... you did.

:confused:
From the sound of it, it could just as easily describe a meteorite coming in.

That's the trouble with you goal-driven types: you've got your agenda and what you want to believe, so every fact (or not) that comes along is rammed into the argument to fit your predetermined outcome.
 
Blagsta said:
Nurse! The screens!
This one's even funnier... :D

thorazine.jpg

(hope it doesn't bust the faq)
 
zArk said:
You need to re-read my question and be polite enough to answer.

Banking Industry accusation -- shot down

come on, why am i spreading thinly veiled race hate?

Wooo!

Look out zArk!

It's the Jewish banking executives!!

aliens.jpg


Fucking nutjob, get a life...
 
pk said:
Wooo!

Look out zArk!

It's the Jewish banking executives!!

Fucking nutjob, get a life...

clearly you are just attempting to antagonise me.

i repeat, i have never said the Banking Industry is controlled.

dERIAN -- Yes, the Nazis did use the issue of the banking industry to attack a group of people but i am not doing that.

PK - if you dont want me to, as you say "spread thinly veiled race hate" why dont you clearly explain why what i write is race hate and therefore allow me to judge people like Tsarion better.

and that goes to all you 'conspiraloon' debunkers. You bitch and moan about people like Azrael and the sources he produces but you dont give alternatives. Its as if you all believe 19 muslim extremists committed 9/11 with OBL and thats that. All evidence showing at least complicity by the US Admin, Pentagon etc etc is refuted cause that fucks up your position.

Just explain your position clearly and concisely then move from there, maybe then the 'conspiraloons' will disappear.

So again, PK, explain why i 'spread thinly veiled race hate'.

thanks
 
Tsarion = racist bonkers cunt you love to quote.

Meet Michael Tsarion, the "son of an Indian clairvoyant" and "grandson of a renowned mystic teacher." He is also a "sidereal mythologist," the creator of "Archetypal Stellar Taroscopic Astrology," and the world-renowned author of that tour de force of historio-scientific scholarship, Atlantis, Alien Visitation and Genetic Manipulation.

In the library, Tsarion's revelations continued. The media, for instance, isn't telling you the truth about Iraq. "How much more criminal and backward would Iraq be if Saddam wasn't in power?" Tsarion asked. "Think how huge the human rights abuses would be then." This elicited knowing nods and more exclamations from his choir of the converted.

Did you know that on 9/11 the planes weren't hijacked? Or that if they were, the hijackers were under the "mind control" of government handlers? Or that perhaps the planes were flown by remote control? And did you know the Towers did not fall because of the planes' impact, but because the buildings were wired with explosives by the government?

And so it went, on and on, as New Age crystal credulity came to grips with the harsh reality of international terrorism through the prism of far-right, government-is-evil conspiracy theory. "Militia types, right-wingers, fundamentalist Christians, all have a piece of the truth," Tsarion asserted--pieces made whole in tandem with his powers of divination and insight into the "metaphysical" structures of history. The existence of a massive government conspiracy is undeniable, he assured.

It was not a marriage made in Judeo-Christian heaven. At times the "factual" and "objective" far-right "evidence" sent Tsarion veering dangerously close to white- supremacist Zionist Occupation Government territory, as when he urged listeners to vote for anti-Semitic militia leader Bo Gritz, or when he confidently claimed that Israeli corporations vacated the WTC in the week prior to the attacks, "even breaking leases to do so."

Tsarion = Utter wanker - and so are his followers.
 
zArk said:
again, you dodge my question.

what have I written that is thinly veiled race hate?

You've quoted Tsarion several times.

Hey, why don't you quote some Goebbels whilst you're at it?

He had the same ideas about "alien races" as you do.

Seek help you bonkers cunt.
 
pk said:
You've quoted Tsarion several times.

Hey, why don't you quote some Goebbels whilst you're at it?

He had the same ideas about "alien races" as you do.

Seek help you bonkers cunt.

i am literally saying aliens, from outer-space.

yes, i quoted Tsarion when he was asking about the isotopes at the bottom of the dead sea.

but i still fail to see the thinly veiled race hate by me.

What i dont understand is that if i did mention jews in a negative way( i did not on both points) , am i being racist or anti-semitic?
Sort of like saying, Christians are a bunch of brain washers and getting called Racist for it.

Now previously some people have said i am verging on anti-semitism by talking of aliens but they didnt say 'racist'.

Some Jewish people are wankers - Sharon being a prime example, some Christians are wankers Bush and Blair . so i guess that makes me anti-semitic and anti-christians.

You fucking retards.

So what if i say The Israeli Finance Minister got a warning before the 7/7 bombs went off -- that is true. I am not saying all Israelis got the warning and there is a global Israeli conspiracy.

Now Tsarion, may actually say something like that. I did hear him in interview with Rense saying some dodgey stuff about the Jewish religion of today being a different religion to the first Jewish Religion. What the fuck that means i have no idea.

but that doesnt mean i agree with him all the way. Any evidence or documents can be read in different ways and blame or finger pointing can ensue. I find it interesting that there are roads under the sea, that science has yet to substaniate the evolution theory or even explain how the pyramids were built (yeah, yeah probably with big fucking whips) and the standardised buildings all over the earth. Chris Columbus didnt discover america, evidence shows us that trade was being conducted with the people of that land for centuries before. So there are all these big fucking question marks and lies about history and when people start to research them, i find it interesting not soley because some people wanted it written out of history but that it completely destroys official history. Now if some racist or anti-semitic jumps on this evidence what are you going to do about it? just ignore it or approach it and discuss it free from the skew some like to apply to it?

I take offense at being called a race hate spreader or anti-semitic just because i raise a few points, questions, mention and source a researcher called Tsarion.

Why dont you start some witch-hunts for commies, pk. You know what, when you start looking for them they are everywhere.

Goebbles taked of alien species, oh right so that mean NO-ONE can ever talk of it ever again - without being called a conspiraloon, psuedo-racist or puesdo-anti-semite.

pathetic
 
zArk said:
i am literally saying aliens, from outer-space.

yes, i quoted Tsarion when he was asking about the isotopes at the bottom of the dead sea.


Wherever they came from I'm pretty sure they weren't put there by aliens.

zArk said:
but i still fail to see the thinly veiled race hate by me.

What i dont understand is that if i did mention jews in a negative way( i did not on both points) , am i being racist or anti-semitic?
Sort of like saying, Christians are a bunch of brain washers and getting called Racist for it.


Because the same sort of language is used to describe the 'worldwide zionist conspiracy' especially in relation to 'bankers'. If you had acknowledged this then maybe you might have been slagged off so much.


zArk said:
You fucking retards.


:rolleyes:


zArk said:
So what if i say The Israeli Finance Minister got a warning before the 7/7 bombs went off -- that is true. I am not saying all Israelis got the warning and there is a global Israeli conspiracy.


Evidence please.

zArk said:
Now Tsarion, may actually say something like that. I did hear him in interview with Rense saying some dodgey stuff about the Jewish religion of today being a different religion to the first Jewish Religion. What the fuck that means i have no idea.


Fuck me anyone but anyone assocciated with Rense et al is suspect.



I've got some strange views to a lot of peole I'm a pagan, I believe in re incarnation for instance and I really dislike how the organised church has put human evolution back by 1500 years but I don't try to back up my beliefs by citing peole like Tsarion and Rense and shite like prisonplanet and Icke.
 
zArk said:
. . . I find it interesting that there are roads under the sea,
You mean there are undersea rock formations/structures that look like roads

zArk said:
that science has yet to substaniate the evolution theory
Occams Razor . . . evolution or Aliens?
zArk said:
or even explain how the pyramids were built (yeah, yeah probably with big fucking whips) and the standardised buildings all over the earth.
Manpower (not slave labour), ramps and ropes. Difficult to build a spherical structure, a cubic structure (top of my head) would require a lot of bracing so build a pyramid.
zArk said:
Chris Columbus didnt discover america,
About the only sensible thing you've ever posted.
zArk said:
evidence shows us that trade was being conducted with the people of that land for centuries before.
Between who and whom exactly? What evidence?
 
A Dashing Blade said:
You mean there are undersea rock formations/structures that look like roads


Occams Razor . . . evolution or Aliens?

Manpower (not slave labour), ramps and ropes. Difficult to build a spherical structure, a cubic structure (top of my head) would require a lot of bracing so build a pyramid.

About the only sensible thing you've ever posted.

Between who and whom exactly? What evidence?
There has been a bit of a controversy about this http://www.colostate.edu/Dept/Entomology/courses/en570/papers_2000/wells.html
 
Do yourself a favour and fuck off zArk...

Every single one of your supposed "facts" has been proven to be bullshit dozens of times on here - ask Jazzz.

As for Rense... yet another anti-semitic conspiraloon nutjob cunt.
 
zArk said:
So what if i say The Israeli Finance Minister got a warning before the 7/7 bombs went off -- that is true.
Evidence please. And - to go long with your fantasy a while longer - why was he warned and by whom?
 
I have plenty of evidence to show that this supposed "warning" never happened, except in the fragile minds of deluded wankers...
 
pk said:
I have plenty of evidence to show that this supposed "warning" never happened, except in the fragile minds of deluded wankers...

Possibly including deluded wankers in or on the fringes of Mossad. Though likely someone just claiming to be that, feeding journos for some reason.

I observe that almost whenever anything happens that might affect an Israeli bigwig, there's a newspaper story saying "Mossad intelligence sources say 'oh, yes, we knew about that'."

It's odd, but entirely unsurprising, that conspiraloons appear to take these as gospel, though in all other cases they'd denounce anything from that milieu without a second thought, or a first one...
 
editor said:
Evidence please. And - to go long with your fantasy a while longer - why was he warned and by whom?


Report: Israel Was Warned Ahead of First Blast
(IsraelNN.com) Army Radio quoting unconfirmed reliable sources reported a short time ago that Scotland Yard had intelligence warnings of the attacks a short time before they occurred.

The Israeli Embassy in London was notified in advance, resulting in Finance Minister Binyamin Netanyahu remaining in his hotel room rather than make his way to the hotel adjacent to the site of the first explosion, a Liverpool Street train station, where he was to address an economic summit.

At present, train and bus service in London have been suspended following the series of attacks. No terrorist organization has claimed responsibility at this time.

Israeli officials stress the advanced Scotland Yard warning does not in any way indicate Israel was the target in the series of apparent terror attacks.


http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=85346

Netanyahu Changed Plans Due to Warning

By AMY TEIBEL, Associated Press Writer Thu Jul 7, 7:14 AM ET

JERUSALEM - British police told the Israeli Embassy in London minutes
before Thursday's explosions that they had received warnings of
possible terror attacks in the city, a senior Israeli official said.
Benjamin Netanyahu had planned to attend an economic conference in a
hotel over the subway stop where one of the blasts occurred, and the
warning prompted him to stay in his hotel room instead, government
officials said.

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/07/321035.shtml


Netanyahu changed plans due to pre-attacks warning
7/7/2005 10:00:00 PM GMT

Netanyahu decided not to attend a conference in London after the pre-attack warning

It's been reported that Israeli Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu decided not to attend an economic conference in London after the Israeli embassy received a pre-attack warning.

A top Israel foreign ministry official said that the British police informed the Israeli embassy in London of possible attacks minutes before Thursday's attacks

http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=9211
 
Blagsta said:

brilliant!

Again, repeating myself, i have never said that the Banking Industry is controlled. I have said that the Debt Economy Banking Industry is systematically destructive. The bank as a corporation is legally an individual and through the debt system is self-sustaining.

Clarified? If not, lets get back into the Banking System thread in philosophy boards.
 
zArk said:
brilliant!

Again, repeating myself, i have never said that the Banking Industry is controlled. I have said that the Debt Economy Banking Industry is systematically destructive. The bank as a corporation is legally an individual and through the debt system is self-sustaining.

Clarified? If not, lets get back into the Banking System thread in philosophy boards.

you're a fucking liar
 
zArk said:

Report: Israel Was Warned Ahead of First Blast
(IsraelNN.com) Army Radio quoting unconfirmed reliable sources reported a short time ago that Scotland Yard had intelligence warnings of the attacks a short time before they occurred.
http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=9211
I give up.

JERUSALEM – Reports that he received prior warning about yesterday's deadly London terror attacks "have no basis in reality," former Prime Minister Benjamin Netantyahu told WorldNetDaily this morning.
"Absolutely not. The reports are entirely false," said Netanyahu, still in London on a trip to address a corporate investment conference yesterday at the Great Eastern hotel near the site of one of the blasts...

Setting the record straight, Netanyahu said, "When the first bomb went off, we were departing our hotel. While we were on our way out, the security people said there was an explosion near the area I was scheduled to speak. They asked us to go back and stay put in our hotel."
In spite of multiple reports to the contrary, Israel did not receive advanced warning regarding today's terror attacks in London, an Israeli foreign ministry spokesman told WND.
"I can tell you unequivocally the reports are false. Israel, including our representatives in London, did not receive any prior notice of pending terror attacks," Mark Regev, senior spokesperson for Israel's Foreign Ministry, told WND. "The only alert we received was a call to our British embassy immediately following the first explosion. That call was routine, and was also placed to other foreign embassies in London."
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45163
 
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