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Why are Urban liberal leftists/@s so racist/prejudiced against non immigrants??

durruti02 said:
so you would give up your job to someone so the boss can bring in cheap labour??? :eek: :rolleyes:
well well. did you not notice how this contradicted your above post Frank? Probably not as you are so wrapped up in your fantasy positions.

Your arguments are just 'I'm alright Jack' shite, protecting tuppence ha'penny by shitting on tuppence.
 
belboid said:
Your arguments are just 'I'm alright Jack' shite, protecting tuppence ha'penny by shitting on tuppence.


Your arguements are bigoted crap...You think that mass migration is a good thing???? Are you the premature reincarnation of Norman Tebbitt?

Yes a worldwide free for all where bosses can employ who they like for what wages they like!!!!! What a great idea.........
 
tbaldwin said:
Yes a worldwide free for all where bosses can employ who they like for what wages they like!!!!! What a great idea.........

A great idea that's enshrined in practice by the very immigration controls you so robustly argue for. Kudos, dear boy. Kudos.
 
belboid said:
you fuck off too you lying little blairite shit.


I think you have a lot more in common with Blairite thinking than me,bellboid.... Although as he is a more succesful liberal than most other liberals people like you hate him....Despite there only being a slither of difference in your views on Education,Crime and Migration etc.....
 
durruti02 said:
i have never said it was particularly wrong for people to want to emigrate
So. Is it wrong for someone's family to want someone to emigrate? How about a friend? What about an "Urban Liberal"? Why do you draw a line, like that? How can you rationalize it, apart from some shite about nationality! :confused:

It now seems to be the case that it is OK to want immigration in the UK, as long as you aren't in the UK! What bleedin difference does it make?

And, tbf, I'm not particularly keen about my boss giving my job to anyone. That they are more highly trained, rather than cheap labour, makes f* all difference to me.
 
treelover said:
They are at it again in the Guardian, its really seems that for liberals being white and particularly white and working class is a problem to be solved by diversity. This really is a form of casual racism, whatever others on the board say..

treelover, you're normally on the point, but that article was written by an afro-caribbean woman of working class ancestry. and the artiicle you quote doesn't say anything negative about the white working classes, merely points out that walthamstow isn;t some sort of asian fundamentalist enclave.
 
TeeJay said:
Tebbit wants to reduce immigration into the UK "to a trickle": http://www.sundayherald.com/51204

That is also your position, isn't it?

No.I want people to come to the UK if they are genuine refugees and/or have family ties....I would not describe that as a trickle.................

The right have always talked "tough on immigration" but most of them believe like Norman Tebbitt in people moving to where the work is .....And the next influx of Rumanians and Bulgarians will be welcomed by dodgy Employers and Landlords a lot more than it will be by the Poles who will have to compete even harder to get work and housing in the UK.
 
TeeJay said:
Tebbit wants to reduce immigration into the UK "to a trickle": http://www.sundayherald.com/51204

That is also your position, isn't it?

tebbit said ... on yer bike .. he is a fundamentalist supporter of immigration ..

he is also ( unlike tb) a racist .. so he prefers internal immigration and wage cuts .. same shite ..

and that means me and you ( though probably not you :rolleyes: ) working for shite ..

thats why he does not want immgration from abroad ..

do you get it?

tebbit wants english doing work for no money .. digby supports poles doing work for shit money
TB supports social democracy and pressure on the state to stop cuts in wages .. blairite?? .. like fuck ..its blair you dope who is behind the Digby jones of the world :rolleyes:
durruti supports workers action against wages cuts etc
 
belboid said:
Your arguments are just 'I'm alright Jack' shite, protecting tuppence ha'penny by shitting on tuppence.

so another so called socialist exposed as being anti trade union! :rolleyes:

what the fck are TUs for if they are not about supportting your colleagues???? ...FFS get a grip .. what do you expect people to do??

your bullshit liberalism is exposed again .. you are not prepared to support ordinary people in their day to day struggles ..



as i've said before .. no wonder people vote for the fking bnp with you as the opposition ..
 
durruti02 said:
so another so called socialist exposed as being anti trade union! :rolleyes:
The TUC supports the free movement of labour:

For example:

Northern TUC Report shows that Migrant labour is a help, not a hindrance, to the NE economy
http://www.tuc.org.uk/international/tuc-11712-f0.cfm

"The free movement of individuals within the European Union is a cornerstone of the European social model. However, workers who are able to exercise their right to mobility should be able to do so without fear and exploitation."

"Ian Fitzgerald, the author of the report said, 'Migrant labour is becoming increasingly important in certain sectors in the North East labour market, although only a very small proportion of the workforce. They are filling skills gaps and undertaking a number of essential tasks which benefit the region and its economy.'"
 
TeeJay said:
I am on disability benefits. Where do you get this "probably" from?
apologies .. did not know .. am pissed of today .. implying it would not affect you but probably wrong .. so if is .. double applogy .. get the impression most people on urban are m/c muppets ..
 
durruti02 said:
.......you are not prepared to support ordinary people in their day to day struggles ..
Who the fuck are "ordinary" people? What makes some people "ordinary" and some people not? Let me guess - if you claim to speak for them, they're "ordinary". If we object to your authoritarianism, we're not.

The working class are the working class are the working class. We're all either "ordinary" or we're not. It's not up to would-be politicians like you to choose.
 
TeeJay said:
The TUC supports the free movement of labour:

For example:

Northern TUC Report shows that Migrant labour is a help, not a hindrance, to the NE economy
http://www.tuc.org.uk/international/tuc-11712-f0.cfm

"The free movement of individuals within the European Union is a cornerstone of the European social model. However, workers who are able to exercise their right to mobility should be able to do so without fear and exploitation."

"Ian Fitzgerald, the author of the report said, 'Migrant labour is becoming increasingly important in certain sectors in the North East labour market, although only a very small proportion of the workforce. They are filling skills gaps and undertaking a number of essential tasks which benefit the region and its economy.'"


absolutly .. TUC are following the same right wing neo liberal agenda ..just read it .. you can see it is rubbish .. try reading something left wing e.g. the Trade Unionists against the EU constitution people .. from SPECTREZINE



"..How the European Union's single internal market is being used to force down wages. Following the accession of eastern European states to the European Union in May 2004, Ireland, Britain and Sweden allowed unrestricted access to their labour markets. As a result, migrant labour has been rapidly moving west, while east European countries are experiencing population falls and an inevitable brain drain..." etc etc
 
durruti02 said:
... try reading something left wing e.g. the Trade Unionists against the EU constitution people ...
at least half of whom who really are little englanders, tho they include some decent TU language & issues
 
durruti02 said:
so another so called socialist exposed as being anti trade union! :rolleyes:

what the fck are TUs for if they are not about supportting your colleagues???? ...FFS get a grip .. what do you expect people to do??

your bullshit liberalism is exposed again .. you are not prepared to support ordinary people in their day to day struggles ..



as i've said before .. no wonder people vote for the fking bnp with you as the opposition ..
says the man whose way of opposing the bnp is to adopt all their issues

now fuck off liar
 
belboid said:
at least half of whom who really are little englanders, tho they include some decent TU language & issues

Talking the talk isn't walking the walk though. Uncle Adolf (mis)appropriated the language of socialism for his own ends.

Durutti02 seems to think that if someone talks his language they're the same as him, I think that anyone that naive deserves a swift kick in the arse.
 
His quoted allies do all have an unfortunate tendency to be right-wing TUists - at best - dont they?
 
belboid said:
says the man whose way of opposing the bnp is to adopt all their issues

now fuck off liar


What a moronic comment....Cos somebody comments on something the BNP comment on "theyve adopted all their issues" have they?????

To run away from issues that the BNP profit from just means leaving them a clear playing field..

The Left has to think again and start telling the truth about immigration.
 
tbaldwin said:
The Left has to think again and start telling the truth about immigration.

Which, if you were honest (and you're not) you'd say "elements of the left", but you prefer to live in your fantasy world where you, durutti02 and your bint and the only three true lefties in existence, and everyone else, especially the people who disagree with your rank ideas.
 
ViolentPanda said:
Which, if you were honest (and you're not) you'd say "elements of the left", but you prefer to live in your fantasy world where you, durutti02 and your bint and the only three true lefties in existence, and everyone else, especially the people who disagree with your rank ideas.


I think there is a big difference between people who are basically socialistic in their beliefs and the Liberal left.....

Most Labour voters are more likely to agree with me about crime and migration than most Urban Liberal lefties.....

But your right i should have said " elements of the left" or LIBERAL SUPREMACISTS??????
 
tbaldwin said:
I think there is a big difference between people who are basically socialistic in their beliefs and the Liberal left.....

Most Labour voters are more likely to agree with me about crime and migration than most Urban Liberal lefties.....
"Most labour voters", eh?

I doubt it, most Labour voters would shy away from your right-centrist bollocks.

The ones who aren't socialists would probably lap your bullshit up though.
But your right i should have said " elements of the left" or LIBERAL SUPREMACISTS??????
You should have.

It makes you look even more of a twat than you already are, running around shouting "LIBERAL SUPREMACIST" everywhere.
 
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