Who will be the next Labour leader?

[chilango]

The new Parliament is only 54% comprehensively educated. 29% went to private schools. There are 11 Old Etonians.

88% of them went to University, 54% to Russell Group Universities and 21% to Oxbridge.

Just for reference like.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Ok he just has far greater social, cultural, and economic capital than any normal person. But it's simpler and easier and clearer to say posh instead of talking about social, cultural, and economic capital.

Nope. They are different things. Posh is visible. Social and culture capital is much more nebulous and insidious

 

[chilango]

Habitus is word we're looking for the here. The bodily manifestation of lived social history/experience.

 

[butchersapron]

These are the oxbridge ones::

Keir Starmer
Lucy Powell
Yvette Cooper
Diane Abbott
Nia Griffith
Barry Gardiner
Richard Burgon

 

[Shechemite]

The new Parliament is only 54% comprehensively educated. 29% went to private schools. There are 11 Old Etonians.

88% of them went to University, 54% to Russell Group Universities and 21% to Oxbridge.

Just for reference like.

The people’s parliament

 

[Shechemite]

nebulous and insidious

Posh cunt

 

[chilango]

The people’s parliament

"most diverse ever!"

..and that's true too

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Posh cunt

 

[Shechemite]

Nandy the only (potential) challenger that i could see shifting the LPs outward towards the community. For all her other faults.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

These are the oxbridge ones::

Keir Starmer
Lucy Powell
Yvette Cooper
Diane Abbott
Nia Griffith
Barry Gardiner
Richard Burgon

And amazingly RLB's first shadow cabinet..."all the talents"

 

[Mr Moose]

Ok he just has far greater social, cultural, and economic capital than any normal person. But it's simpler and easier and clearer to say posh instead of talking about social, cultural, and economic capital.

When we are going somewhere nice Mrs Moose likes to put on her high social, cultural and economic capital frock. Ok she calls it her ‘posh’ frock.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Nandy the only (potential) challenger that i could see shifting the LPs outward towards the community. For all her other faults.

She's made the most interesting noises definitely. But, RLB hasn't said anything yet as far as I can see. Or Rayner.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

When we are going somewhere nice Mrs Moose likes to put on her high social, cultural and economic capital frock. Ok she calls it her ‘posh’ frock.

Trivialise it if you want but its an important point

 

[Mr Moose]

Trivialise it if you want but its an important point

No intention of doing so. You’ll have your work cut out if you want to police all the throwaway gags in this forum.

 

[chilango]

When we are going somewhere nice Mrs Moose likes to put on her high social, cultural and economic capital frock. Ok she calls it her ‘posh’ frock.

You jest, but clothing is an important signifier of cultural capital.

Hence all the attacks on Corbyn (and Foot back in the day) for being "scruffy".

For example, Barthes notes "the tendency of every bodily covering to insert itself into a formal and normative system that is recognised by society" i.e. dress is clear signifier of the wearer's integration into the society in which they live.

You can spot a posh boy miles off by what they are wearing and how they are wearing it.

Kulz, talking about school uniforms, notes that appropriate (and normative) style is that of a white m/c model. Whilst Bourdieu talks about the link between clothes and habitus, a m/c anxiety about external appearances and the "valorization of appearance in work".

There's plenty more.

But as Smokeandsteam responded it is important to recognise the relationship between the various forms of capital and "poshness" and how they these forms of capital are deployed to acquire or maintain class status.

 

[SpookyFrank]

She's made the most interesting noises definitely. But, RLB hasn't said anything yet as far as I can see. Or Rayner.

The Mirror reckons Rayner will be stepping back in favour of Long-Bailey.

 

[skyscraper101]

I don't think Thornberry has a chance personally.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

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[8ball]

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It's a good sign in that it looks unlikely for Cooper, Lewis and Thornberry imo.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Fifty to one on Rayner would be worth a punt if I weren't to lazy to go through all that ID checking rigamarole you need to get an online gambling account these days.

I dunno what planet people are on if they see Starmer getting the support of the membership.

 

[andysays]

I don't think Thornberry has a chance personally.

If you don't take that back by the end of the day, she's taking you to court

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Fifty to one on Rayner would be worth a punt

I’ve had a quid on it.

 

[8ball]

I thought they were saying Rayner was likely to run as deputy to RLB.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

I thought they were saying Rayner was likely to run as deputy to RLB.

Twitter rumour.

 

[Pickman's model]

Twitter rumour.

Twattershite, to use the technical term

 

[SpookyFrank]

If you don't take that back by the end of the day, she's taking you to court

#priorities

 

[mauvais]

Twitter rumour.

Angela Rayner clears way for Rebecca Long-Bailey to run for Labour leader

 

[Mr.Bishie]

I want my quid back

 

[Mr Moose]

You jest, but clothing is an important signifier of cultural capital.

Hence all the attacks on Corbyn (and Foot back in the day) for being "scruffy".

For example, Barthes notes "the tendency of every bodily covering to insert itself into a formal and normative system that is recognised by society" i.e. dress is clear signifier of the wearer's integration into the society in which they live.

You can spot a posh boy miles off by what they are wearing and how they are wearing it.

Kulz, talking about school uniforms, notes that appropriate (and normative) style is that of a white m/c model. Whilst Bourdieu talks about the link between clothes and habitus, a m/c anxiety about external appearances and the "valorization of appearance in work".

There's plenty more.

But as Smokeandsteam responded it is important to recognise the relationship between the various forms of capital and "poshness" and how they these forms of capital are deployed to acquire or maintain class status.

For the avoidance of doubt, Mrs Moose isn’t running for office. She just likes a night out now and then.

 

[andysays]

Guardian reporting that Thornberry has thrown her hat into the ring, so everyone be careful what they say about her...