Who will be the next Labour leader?

[fakeplasticgirl]

Urgh, Thornberry. Go away! Tanks off my keir’s lawn!

 

[Mr Moose]

Yes, just speaking to a member now who says Starmer is saying some pretty 'left' things, considering. Maybe if Starmer stays on message a lot of them will come round. Not counting the further left who will dwell on his days with the CPS, granted.

He is not going to convince the left. But he may be able to carve out some ground between himself and Blair.

 

[Mr Moose]

What sort of cunt goes around being called 'Keir' anyway?

Son of a Labour supporting tool maker apparently.

 

[fakeplasticgirl]

He was named after Keir Hardie.

Ok I’m going. My keir love is making me irrational!

 

[Mr Moose]

She's got no chance

Michael Gove has a better chance.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Ok I’m going. My keir love is making me irrational!

I fear you have the causality backwards here.

 

[kabbes]

I just brought up human rights lawyer to emphasise that, despite going to oxford etc, he has lovely left wing credentials.
The impression I get (don’t mean from you) is that Starmer is disliked because he’s some sort of blairite.
(I also think I misread who said what about RLB)

Being a human rights lawyer at best indicates something about a belief in freedoms. It says nothing about what that person thinks about economic structures.

 

[treelover]

Yes, just speaking to a member now who says Starmer is saying some pretty 'left' things, considering. Maybe if Starmer stays on message a lot of them will come round. Not counting the further left who will dwell on his days with the CPS, granted.

I know lots of middle class labour supporters who want Starmer, but i bet if he is elected, the RW media will dig up some of his uman rights work and spin it as unpatriortic, the only slightly bulletproof(no pun intended) would be Dan Jarvis, though i think Spiney Norman has some negative stories about him.

 

[fakeplasticgirl]

I fear you have the causality backwards here.

 

[Pickman's model]

I know lots of middle class labour supporters who want Starmer, but i bet if he is elected, the RW media will dig up some of his uman rights work and spin it as unpatriortic, the only slightly bulletproof(no pun intended) would be Dan Jarvis, though i think Spiney Norman has some negative stories about him.

It doesn't matter who gets elected the media will put the boot in, let's just take that as read

 

[treelover]

Not exactly though - he's pushing the Blue Labour line along with the rest about being socially conservative, tough on crime and national security and a little bit racist. But they don't think they need to change economically. They think they can have slightly nicer version of centrist Nu Labour and just disguise it with an image overhaul.

No he wasn't, on economics, he was saying no rtn to the Blair years, what he would vote for is another thing.

 

[kabbes]

Yes, Labour’s path to victory definitely lies in becoming more middle-class friendly.

 

[8ball]

... but i bet if he is elected, the RW media will dig up some of his uman rights work and spin it as unpatriortic...

This would have felt like a bizarre argument not too long ago.

 

[fakeplasticgirl]

Being a human rights lawyer at best indicates something about a belief in freedoms. It says nothing about what that person thinks about economic structures.

I know but just watch the mclibel documentary when he takes on McDonald’s for free. So... inspiring!

Edit - is the fucking bbc now emphasising the SIR part or am I paranoid?!

 

[kabbes]

I know but just watch the mclibel documentary when he takes on McDonald’s for free. So... inspiring!

But nothing to do with being “left wing”

 

[fakeplasticgirl]

Hope he hasn’t defended any terrorist suspects. The daily mail will have a field day, the cunts.

 

[SpookyFrank]

I know but just watch the mclibel documentary when he takes on McDonald’s for free. So... inspiring!

Pity that the whole McLibel thing was effectively a put up job by an undercover cop. Talking of undercover cops, how many unsafe convictions compromised by the actions of undercover cops did Starmer preside over while head of the CPS? Over 60 last time I counted.

 

[sunnysidedown]

thoughts on the trio? looking like below at the moment, with L & SC possibly switching

Starmer L
Rayner DL
RLB SC

 

[fakeplasticgirl]

No no I really am off, I’m hungover and spouting nonsense I know. I just think keir can unite the party! And he looks like a traditional leader too which, let’s face it, is sadly important.

 

[kabbes]

He will unite the party, to be fair. Just not in the way you mean.

 

[fakeplasticgirl]

Pity that the whole McLibel thing was effectively a put up job by an undercover cop. Talking of undercover cops, how many unsafe convictions compromised by the actions of undercover cops did Starmer preside over while head of the CPS? Over 60 last time I counted.

Helen steel and David Morris who were sued by McDonalds weren’t undercover cops though.

 

[fakeplasticgirl]

Talking of undercover cops, how many unsafe convictions compromised by the actions of undercover cops did Starmer preside over while head of the CPS? Over 60 last time I counted.

Stop it

 

[JuanTwoThree]

Yeh this race a marathon not a sprint and there'll be snickers later on

Topical

 

[SpookyFrank]

Stop it

I'll stop it when that fucker stops locking my mates up.

 

[8ball]

Topical

Snickers are to be taken internally.

 

[Serge Forward]

where was this culture of resistance?

It no longer exists.

 

[Mr Moose]

No no I really am off, I’m hungover and spouting nonsense I know. I just think keir can unite the party! And he looks like a traditional leader too which, let’s face it, is sadly important.

That can play both ways, in favour because he fits the archetype, against because everyone is sick of the archetype. Angela Merkel would suggest its not necessary to win.

 

[chilango]

Online leak of video footage obtained in a number of Labour Party offices over the last few days!

Spoiler: Warning: Can't verify this

 

[Nice one]

As Mark E Smith was keen to point out The Fall were a Salford band, not a Manchester band.

Plus gives working class racist mancunian singer morrissey a run for his money in the working class racist mancunian singer stakes.

 

[SpackleFrog]

No he wasn't, on economics, he was saying no rtn to the Blair years, what he would vote for is another thing.

He doesn't mean it though. They don't mean it. They are every bit as dishonest as Johnson.