Who will be the next Labour leader?

[Wilf]

Shit poll, the correct answer is Angela Rayner.

I quite like her and she fits the bill - northern, female and working class. She also didn't vote for Corbyn which will be a plus for some on the centre/righjt of the party. But what's she like on handling policy briefs etc? Genuine Q, I have a vague feeling she's fucked up her education brief in interviews?

 

[Sue]

I dunno I just remember he was good at beating people up when I was a kid, and I admired that.

I've got a signed copy of his autobiography but I've never read it.

In January 2001, Bruno announced that he wanted to stand as the Conservativecandidate in the traditionally safe Tory seat of Brentwood and Ongar against the independent Member of Parliament, Martin Bell. His proposed slogan was "Don't be a plank, vote for Frank!" However, this idea was quickly dismissed by Conservative Central Office.[13][14] In an interview with BBC Sport at the time, Bruno laughed at the story and denied he had any intention of standing.

Frank Bruno - Wikipedia

 

[SpookyFrank]

I quite like her and she fits the bill - northern, female and working class. She also didn't vote for Corbyn which will be a plus for some on the centre/righjt of the party. But what's she like on handling policy briefs etc? Genuine Q, I have a vague feeling she's fucked up her education brief in interviews?

She strikes me as an unpolished presence in front of the media, which is one of the reasons I like her. Of course any labour leader will be monstered by the press, but Rayner's more likely to just tell someone to fuck off instead of doing that Corbyn thing of fielding every loaded question as if it was an honest question, and as if actually hearing the answer was the point of asking it.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Rayner is also on record speaking out against this second referendum policy that appears to have doomed Corbyn.

 

[8ball]

I need to flesh this out a bit more but here is what I think the next LP leader should be/do:

1. Listen to the working class. In all places. Of all ages.
2. Engage with the working class on the basis of what it is, and what it’s priories are, rather than what the left thinks it is.
3. Direct all member and financial resources to rebuilding local progressive politics and non-state networks: unions, community associations, sports clubs, food banks, branches etc etc
4. Re-embed collective ideas and social democratic politics. Strengthen shared cultural and social repertoires from the bottom up
5. Transform Labour into a ‘non-London’ Party. Devolve as much power as possible down and away from the possessors of cultural and social capital
6. More MPs and candidates from working class backgrounds. Instant right of recall for local parties over their candidates if they vote against the consensus of local constituents and members
7. Develop policy on the key issues: work, public services, infrastructure, the environment, housing, crime through the above rather than policy types
8. Build a social movement of millions - rooted in the class

I like a lot of that, but I’d be interested to see where the boundaries of “working class” lie in this vision.

 

[extra dry]

Ok what about Frank Skinner? Or that fat chap off the radio?

 

[19sixtysix]

I will choose from the candidates for their policies and their ability to put it across. Any involved in the coup against Corbyn will be actively campained against. I will hold fire to see who emerges. The hinderance of getting enough votes of the blairite lacky MPs will hopefully be slightly reduced and maybe we can have a race between decent real labour MPs.

Oh while we're at it that Sadiq khan can go fuck himself. Bland non entity with not a thought of his own. A new mayoral candidate is required.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

I quite like her and she fits the bill - northern, female and working class. She also didn't vote for Corbyn which will be a plus for some on the centre/righjt of the party. But what's she like on handling policy briefs etc? Genuine Q, I have a vague feeling she's fucked up her education brief in interviews?

I like Rayner in terms of her background, lived experience and so on. But I don't know what Rayner's politics actually are. Has she got any ideas beyond the statist top down instincts of much of the left? Can she synthesise and popularise these ideas? Does she want to build a social movement or merely engage in an endless battle for control of the Party? What are her practical ideas on re-embedding the non-state networks necessary to grow progressive pro-working class politics in smashed towns. How would she manage the divergent constituencies that are necessary to build something genuinely radical?

 

[philosophical]

After reading this thread it looks like there isn't anyone who isn't a cunt in the eyes of someone, a bit like Urban where any poster is a cunt in the eyes of somebody else.
Looks like we're all cunts.
Who wrote 'hell is other people?'

 

[Sprocket.]

After reading this thread it looks like there isn't anyone who isn't a cunt in the eyes of someone, a bit like Urban where any poster is a cunt in the eyes of somebody else.
Looks like we're all cunts.
Who wrote 'hell is other people?'

Some other cunt!

 

[Pickman's model]

After reading this thread it looks like there isn't anyone who isn't a cunt in the eyes of someone, a bit like Urban where any poster is a cunt in the eyes of somebody else.
Looks like we're all cunts.
Who wrote 'hell is other people?'

No one, no one's ever written it as a question before you cunt. Every other person has said it as a statement.

 

[philosophical]

Pedantic stalking cunt.

Every? Get editing you cunt.

 

[Shechemite]

This is why labour lost

 

[Pickman's model]

Pedantic stalking cunt.

Every? Get editing you cunt.

Every

 

[SpookyFrank]

This year's 'most irritating poster' award is going to be a real photo finish I reckon.

 

[Pickman's model]

This is why labour lost

There are as yet undiscovered tribes in the amazon rain forest who would vote against a side backed by philosophical

 

[Pickman's model]

This year's 'most irritating poster' award is going to be a real photo finish I reckon.

A late spurt from Don Troooomp but I think philosophical has it in the bag

 

[philosophical]

Fucking racist cunt now, putting down Amazonian aboriginals!

 

[Pickman's model]

Fucking racist cunt now, putting down Amazonian aboriginals!

I'm not putting them down.

 

[philosophical]

Yes you are, calling them 'tribes' and assuming they want your Western construct of voting.
Mind you I have to admire your persistence.
Is there a prize for stalker of the year?

 

[philosophical]

I see you took my advice about editing, no need to thank me.

 

[Pickman's model]

I see you took my advice about editing, no need to thank me.

Talking to yourself, I see

 

[Pickman's model]

Yes you are, calling them 'tribes' and assuming they want your Western construct of voting.
Mind you I have to admire your persistence.
Is there a prize for stalker of the year?

I first posted on this thread on 7 November. You joined the thread yesterday. So fuck off with your stalking nonsense.

E2A Uncontacted peoples in the amazon traditionally and widely referred to as tribes, it isn't in any way a put down.

 

[Shechemite]

Fucking racist cunt now, putting down Amazonian aboriginals!

Please shut up

 

[philosophical]

I first posted on this thread on 7 November. You joined the thread yesterday. So fuck off with your stalking nonsense.

Nah, every time I post anything anywhere on here you quickly pop up with your creepy stalkerish stuff.
Is it desperation, or are you the Master Mason of stalking, or simply a masturbator? Get your bog roll ready for your spaff if you are.

 

[philosophical]

Please shut up

Wow I have upset site moderator.

 

[Pickman's model]

Nah, every time I post anything anywhere on here you quickly pop up with your creepy stalkerish stuff.
Is it desperation, or are you the Master Mason of stalking, or simply a masturbator? Get your big roll ready for your spaff if you are.

That's a demonstrable lie. Before yesterday I hadn't crosser swords with you since 23 Nov, nor did we cross swords between 28 Oct and 21 Nov. I don't pursue you round the boards whatever you may wish

 

[philosophical]

That's a demonstrable lie.

Apologies, but no need to post any pictures of your used posh tissues, I believe you about the bog roll.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

 

[Pickman's model]

Apologies, but no need to post any pictures of your used posh tissues, I believe you about the bog roll.

It ill behoves you to baselessly accuse me of racism when very real incidents of racism have been reported on these boards as a result of the election.