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Who is going to win the 2018/2019 Tory Leadership election?

Who is going to win the 2018/2019 Tory Leadership election?


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I say this every time, but Gove. He's by some distance the most skilled politician in the government, and has positioned himself perfectly. His only weaknesses are that he's a deeply repulsive character and given to overshooting, but if he manages to get round these issues he's a shoo-in.

His speech attacking Corbyn was his leadership audition.
 
He’s also very in with the press, given he was formerly one of them. That’s valuable to the party.
 
More knife crime.
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I'd written off Boris Johnson, but it may just be that the Tories are desperate enough for him to take over. Thoughts?

E2A: not a comment on the odds by the way, he was favourite before the contest last time and May was 3/1.
I reckon that after the Euros debacle they'll be enough tory MPs desperate enough not to block what the headbangers want. They'l have to find him a safe seat, mind. No doubt some old burton-tufton in the shires will be persuaded with a K to stand aside.
 
I reckon that after the Euros debacle they'll be enough tory MPs desperate enough not to block what the headbangers want. They'l have to find him a safe seat, mind. No doubt some old burton-tufton in the shires will be persuaded with a K to stand aside.

Aye, that does look more likely, if only because it's not clear how else they can reboot the party sufficiently to win an election.
 
I'd written off Boris Johnson, but it may just be that the Tories are desperate enough for him to take over. Thoughts?

E2A: not a comment on the odds by the way, he was favourite before the contest last time and May was 3/1.
I still think he is an outside bet. Obvs, he'd win if he got through to the play off, but as we've seen in the football, the top placed team is far from guaranteed a place there. Too many of the MP's think he is just dangerously barking, imo, and would do anything to stop him. Quite who they could find to rally behind is another matter, but I am still minded to believe they'll find someone.
 
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I still think he is an outside bet. Bovs, he'd win if he got through to the play off, but as we've seen in the football, the top placed team is far from guaranteed a place there. Too many of the MP's think he is just dangerously barking, imo, and would do anything to stop him. Quite who they could find to rally behind is another matter, but I am still minded to believe they'll find someone.

That was my thought, but then I thought that someone might have to be Gove or Raab and then I thought I was thinking shite and should have a lie down! :D
 
I'm still convinced that Chris Grayling will continue to fail upwards and somehow end up as PM despite not running for the leadership. Which will be yet one more thing for him to fuck up.
 
I'm still convinced that Chris Grayling will continue to fail upwards and somehow end up as PM despite not running for the leadership. Which will be yet one more thing for him to fuck up.
As others have mentioned, Johnson's problem is getting on the ballot paper. Hard to know what state the bag full of rats, weasels and snakes that we call the modern conservative party will be in, so predictions are difficult. At the point tory mps make a choice, they might be blaming the erg lot for a brexit not delivered, or they might be looking to them as the ones who kept the faith. More likely, it will be about venal self interest and keeping their seats But that aside, to get on the ballot, Johnson's probably needs say 30% of the MPs to vote for him in the round of voting that gets it down to 2 candidates?
 
I think Johnson's chances of getting on the ballot papers are massively weakened by the number of much more serious hard brexiteers who will throw their hats in the ring, and the outright hatred of him that's spread liberally throughout the PCP - faced with a choice of Gove, or Hunt, or even Raab, or Johnson, the number of Tory MP's who would vote for Johnson is pretty small.

Low tens perhaps?

The value of the stitch up shouldn't be downplayed either - there are more than enough Tory MP's who loathe him who will happily play a 'this is who I like, and these are the people I'll happily accept if it keeps Johnson off the ballot papers' game.
 
I think Johnson's chances of getting on the ballot papers are massively weakened by the number of much more serious hard brexiteers who will throw their hats in the ring, and the outright hatred of him that's spread liberally throughout the PCP - faced with a choice of Gove, or Hunt, or even Raab, or Johnson, the number of Tory MP's who would vote for Johnson is pretty small.

Low tens perhaps?

The value of the stitch up shouldn't be downplayed either - there are more than enough Tory MP's who loathe him who will happily play a 'this is who I like, and these are the people I'll happily accept if it keeps Johnson off the ballot papers' game.
The other thing is these ballots have their own logics. If they start with 5 candidates, say, one drops out though sometimes the next lowest also decides to drop out. Then as well as losing candidates recommending who their supporters vote for, there are explicit deals between candidates ('back me and you get Home Sec etc'). Favourites rarely win iirc.
 
I expect this has been posted before but I doubt the BBC will air it.

I never get bored watching this interview where he gets called on that phone call and all the rest of his shit eta: gets good from 07:15


...and John Kerry and the US press pack taking the piss after he got the foreign office


...and finally his US counterpart’s reaction upon learning of his appointment to the post.
State Department spokesman smiles at news of Boris Johnson's appointment – video
So this no mark cunt, held in contempt in the US (and almost certainly internationally) will probably be our next PM. Hey ho.
 
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I just can't find the energy to be surprised or even care about that. It's all "Tory politician being monumental cunt shocker". The only thing noteworthy about it is that people have actually tried to tar him with it, which is a rare thing these days. Normally they just get away with it, and I think that shows how many enemies he must have within his own party. If Hunt murdered a few children in his basement, it would probably never see the light of day but they don't close ranks for Johnson.
 
I previously rated johnson's chances of getting on the final ballot as slim cos of how widely he is despised - but pressure from members may sway mps. If his popularity amongst the members is as high as reported - and if he has Rees Moggs blessing - than it could happen. Otherwise he will forever be the king over the water who was kept out by a westminster stitch up.
I think one thing is definitely likely - that whoever emerges as leader (and PM) will be elected on a platform of "no deal". Which sets up quite a bun fight.
 
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