2hats
Dust.
Sorry. Not worn a lab coat for something like three decades now. Not quite sure how you divine age from the preceding statements?
Which jab did you have - Astra Zeneca or Pfizer? And what side effects?
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cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Don't want to worry you, just giving you the heads-up, but if you still have a head ache on day 4 after the AZ jab, the advice in the UK is to contact your GP.
dessiato
🇪🇸 españa te quiero
Thanks. I’ll bear that in mind.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Here's the advice again, for anyone that has missed it...
www.gov.uk
What to look out for after vaccination [AZ]
Although serious side effects are very rare, if you experience any of the following from around 4 days to 4 weeks after vaccination you should seek medical advice urgently:- a new, severe headache which is not helped by usual painkillers or is getting worse
- a headache which seems worse when lying down or bending over
- an unusual headache that may be accompanied by:
- blurred vision, nausea and vomiting
- difficulty with your speech
- weakness, drowsiness or seizures
- new, unexplained pinprick bruising or bleeding
- shortness of breath, chest pain, leg swelling or persistent abdominal pain
COVID-19 vaccination and blood clotting
Mation
real life adventure worth more than pieces of gold
Younger people tend to have fewer hats. You started with 2, so you must have loads by now.
Logic.
elbows
Well-Known Member
Probably people putting two and two together based on oversimplified ways things are presented by government or the press sometimes. Theres probably an association in peoples minds between the Moderna vaccine and younger people, and other assumptions about what age groups are being vaccinated at the moment.
2hats
Dust.
Many.
This 50-something waited patiently for around 10 weeks until circumstances were optimal.
elbows
Well-Known Member
I hear you, this 46 year old did the same, although I would be lying if I said mine was a carefully crafted plan in every respect, some luck and coincidence was also involved.
I'd have been letting myself down if I didnt make personal use of my own opinions, if I had not tried to get the timing right in terms of which vaccines were on offer, levels of viral prevalence, and generally trying to avoid the more giddy aspects of the vaccination rollout.
Where is this quote from?
smmudge
i know the smudge is true
46 hours after 1st Pfizer. Yesterday I had an achy arm but not too bad. Definitely felt like my immune system was working yesterday, slight pressure headache, sensitive skin, bit of lethargy. But then it was Friday lol. Feel fine this morning and arm is almost back to normal.
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
The link in the post you quoted, immediately following the quote.
wtfftw
melting like a toastie
Chemistry had his first Pfizer dose on Thursday and has pretty much been in bed with an on off fever since.
I'm really hoping my second dose of AZ (late this morning) doesn't lay me out for 3 days like the first dose did.
(For the files - we both had covid in October)
I'm really hoping my second dose of AZ (late this morning) doesn't lay me out for 3 days like the first dose did.
(For the files - we both had covid in October)
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
You can both join the Priti Patel club, as aged 49 she didn't have the vaccine when invited, but waited until last week and got Moderna.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
I haven't even considered writing this in this thread up to now, but would welcome opinions.
As some of you may know from the health forum, I developed a little problem eight weeks ago. Diarrhea. Every single day. For eight weeks. Out of nowhere.
I'm now 'in the system' and will be having stool tests next week, followed by a CT scan 'at some point', all, it seems, to try and gather results that don't involve the far more intrusive colonoscopy/endoscopy.
I have never blamed the vaccine. Barely considered it. But it just struck me all this began 12 days after my 2nd Pfizer (which produced no other side effects bar a slight headache).
What do people reckon? Is 12 days too long to be an associated side effect? I didn't even mention the jab yesterday to my Doctor who arranged the tests. I just don't know what to think and am not even sure on the rules regarding reporting of things like this.
Following all this, I've woken up this morning for the first time in 8 weeks WITHOUT diarrhea. Though incredibly black poo if you must know.
Thoughts?
As some of you may know from the health forum, I developed a little problem eight weeks ago. Diarrhea. Every single day. For eight weeks. Out of nowhere.
I'm now 'in the system' and will be having stool tests next week, followed by a CT scan 'at some point', all, it seems, to try and gather results that don't involve the far more intrusive colonoscopy/endoscopy.
I have never blamed the vaccine. Barely considered it. But it just struck me all this began 12 days after my 2nd Pfizer (which produced no other side effects bar a slight headache).
What do people reckon? Is 12 days too long to be an associated side effect? I didn't even mention the jab yesterday to my Doctor who arranged the tests. I just don't know what to think and am not even sure on the rules regarding reporting of things like this.
Following all this, I've woken up this morning for the first time in 8 weeks WITHOUT diarrhea. Though incredibly black poo if you must know.
Thoughts?
elbows
Well-Known Member
I think its hard to offer much of use - proper medical assessment should offer answers or at least much stronger clues than anything I could come up with. Hope it all goes well!
I would think that 12 days to see that sort of change is not completely infeasible, but I'd not have really high confidence in this opinion.
I would think that 12 days to see that sort of change is not completely infeasible, but I'd not have really high confidence in this opinion.
elbows
Well-Known Member
lol. I wonder what different aspects informed her choice. In my case there are a mixture of reasons, even including me attempting to time first and second doses so that I can avoid the peaks of the hayfever I suffer from. If my second dose appointment is brought forwards then I will have failed to achieve all of my aims with that.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
No clear idea what's going on without taking a long history and doing an assessment, and even then likely need those investigations. Did you have a face-to-face appointment with the GP? And if so did they give you a good feel around your abdo and get some detailed info off you about it all?
From what we know so far though it seems very unlikely to be an effect of the vaccine, starting after 12 days is possible, but then going on for 8 weeks seems quite unlikely, as does the physical mechanism from having the vaccine that translates into then having diarrhea for 8 weeks. Much more likely to be something else going on that the investigations might find out.
Have you had the black stools since seeing the doctor and they're a new symptom? Or before and the doctors knows about them? If the former then I'd call them back for advice.
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cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
It's probably not connected, but certainly worth flagging up.
Did you also have abdominal pain?
And, 12 days after the jab doesn't seem infeasible, considering this advice about symptoms starting up to 4 weeks after.
About COVID-19 vaccination, safety and side effects
Find out about COVID-19 vaccination, including the different types and the side effects and safety.
www.nhs.uk
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Thanks for your reply (and elbows too).
My GP felt my abdomen but didn't go beyond 'can't feel any lumps'. She's a great GP btw. She was very honest and straightforward admitting it wasn't an area of specialisation for her and put me on to the hospital.
They gave me a phone call yesterday, asking about history (there is none) and arranging the stool tests and explaining everything about the process very well.
Then this morning I get no diarrhea (first time in 56 days) but incredibly black stools. It's Saturday and I'm just resigned to seeing what the next poos bring. And feeling relieved (but very weird) about not having the associated cramps etc for today.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
It's hard to see the Pure Evil angle on it isn't it, but I expect there must be one.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Christ yes. But hospital doctor seemed to think this was simply par for the course with diarrhea, even though I mentioned the pain was specific (right hand side).
So happy not to have that pain this morning.
elbows
Well-Known Member
I dont have that expectation at all, her reasons may have been quite sensible or not. I dont get on with platinumsage so I was more inclined to see the association as a cheap smear.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
You said above you never blamed the vaccine, so did you not mention that you had had the jab to the doctor?
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
The GP could almost certainly see it on the notes anyway.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Good point, although they may not have advised the hospital, so worth flagging, if not already mentioned at the hospital appointment.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Never mentioned it yesterday to the hospital. I've only started thinking about it really since last night when I counted the days and realised it was only 12.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Probably unconnected, but certainly worth mentioning, may be even give them a call before the next appointment, just in case.
I've certainly been in a GP appointment with my mother, when he's read back what he had typed for a hospital referral, and I managed to point out he had left out an important bit of information, so it's possible your GP didn't mention the jab in the referral, they are only human after all.
deeyo
hurled unheard to this world.
12 days is definitely within the possible range for causality - but diarrhea doesnt seem to be a common side effect of the pfizer vaccine; same as placebo pre release, 1.4% self-reported post release
Reactions and Adverse Events of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine | CDC
"Vaccine side-effects and SARS-CoV-2 infection after vaccination in users of the COVID Symptom Study app in the UK: a prospective observational study - The Lancet Infectious Diseases" DEFINE_ME
if one were looking for a connection i would think some kind of enteritis, prob colitis and maybe prefer colonoscopy to ct - better visualisation of the lining and the possibility of taking biopsies.
for almost all other possibilities, ct is at least as good.
Black stools of course suggests blood, which in itself might not be so strange after 8 weeks of the runs. (more worrying without symptoms). pain to the right (colicky?) could indeed be 'par for the course', as well.
your gp seems to take good care of you.
Reactions and Adverse Events of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine | CDC
"Vaccine side-effects and SARS-CoV-2 infection after vaccination in users of the COVID Symptom Study app in the UK: a prospective observational study - The Lancet Infectious Diseases" DEFINE_ME
if one were looking for a connection i would think some kind of enteritis, prob colitis and maybe prefer colonoscopy to ct - better visualisation of the lining and the possibility of taking biopsies.
for almost all other possibilities, ct is at least as good.
Black stools of course suggests blood, which in itself might not be so strange after 8 weeks of the runs. (more worrying without symptoms). pain to the right (colicky?) could indeed be 'par for the course', as well.
your gp seems to take good care of you.
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