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When will the lib dem split happen?

When will the split happen?

  • Next week

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • By the end of 2010

    Votes: 3 4.6%
  • By the end of next year

    Votes: 34 52.3%
  • By the end of the term

    Votes: 8 12.3%
  • At some other point

    Votes: 5 7.7%
  • NEVER !!!!!!!! OUR DEAR MASTER LOVES US HE WILL NEVER BETRAY US

    Votes: 15 23.1%

  • Total voters
    65
tbh, the whole circle jerk/fist fight of Old Guard politics posters puts me off reading contributing to these sorts of threads, just like it did 5 years ago. So forgive me for not giving a very big shit. :(

EDIT: thank you n_s, that proves my point very nicely.
 
tbh, the whole circle jerk/fist fight of Old Guard politics posters puts me off reading contributing to these sorts of threads, just like it did 5 years ago. So forgive me for not giving a very big shit. :(

EDIT: thank you n_s, that proves my point very nicely.

I'm New Guard.
 
tbh, the whole circle jerk/fist fight of Old Guard politics posters puts me off reading contributing to these sorts of threads, just like it did 5 years ago. So forgive me for not giving a very big shit. :(

EDIT: thank you n_s, that proves my point very nicely.

What a load of cock. You allow L&L to derail threads and then you try and blame others for your appalling standards of moderation.

It's stick your fingers in your ears time again.
 
What a load of cock. You allow L&L to derail threads and then you try and blame others for your appalling moderation.

I am collectively blaming everyone on these sorts of threads who seem more interested in calling each other cunts instead of debating the issues. What's the point, I ask myself, of contributing to such a thread?
 
I am collectively blaming everyone on these sorts of threads who seem more interested in calling each other cunts instead of debating the issues. What's the point, I ask myself, of contributing to such a thread?

Er, no you aren't. You've allowed L&L to derail this thread and have done nothing but point the finger at the wrong people. Shame on you.
 
I am collectively blaming everyone on these sorts of threads who seem more interested in calling each other cunts instead of debating the issues. What's the point, I ask myself, of contributing to such a thread?

Try writing to your MP, or perhaps manning a stall.
 
Er, no you aren't. You've allowed L&L to derail this thread and have done nothing but point the finger at the wrong people. Shame on you.

You what? L&L was the first person I pointed the finger at.
Please, share your bile around the other mods for their despicable inaction also.
 
You what? L&L was the first person I pointed the finger at.
Please, share your bile around the other mods for their despicable inaction also.

So tell me, why is he still permitted to derail? Or am I imagining it all? I love the way you make out like I'm some kind of baddie. How despicable of you.
 
You're not a baddie, you're just annoying. L&L has derailed this thread, but he's not the only one doing so (EDIT: In general, across P&P)
 
You haven't done it successfully. you are burying your head in the sand about the economic situation.
christ, you really can't stop lying can you? Everyone - butchers, froggy, VP, nino, blagsta, LBJ, uncle tom cobley and all - have explained to you, time and time again, why the cuts - on this scale - are not just unnecessary but counterproductive, whilst also outlining a huge range of genuinely progressive alternatives (tax the rich, the banks, big business, crack down on offshoring and tax avoidance). Each and every time you have completely failed to come up with ANY remotely credible counter-argument, but simply echoed your usual empty thatcherite mantras, with neither facts nor reasoned argument to back it up. and here you go again. Is it any wonder you get ripped to shreds, when you talk such utter and total shite?
Is there ANY reason why ANYONE should think you know the first thing about economics? Or that you actually are in possession of a properly working adult mind?
 
You haven't done it successfully. you are burying your head in the sand about the economic situation.

i thoutht you'd left? yet another lie it would appear.

Being lectured by moon on economics is almost amusing, considering the only occasion he has attempted to explain economics he fell flat on his arse. Quite how he can tell where anyone elses head is, when his is stuck firmly up Cleggs arse.

Tell us moonie, what was wrong with the alternative budget i linked to? Or tell me how you would compare current UK debt to the post-war UK debt, or compare UK's debt as a proportion of GDP to that of the US, Germany, or Japan, for example.
 
Am I not allowed to respond to snidey attacks, Crispy?

And why are you allowing the most snidey poster of all to keep up his crusade against me?

Hardly anyone makes snidey attacks on you.

Most of them are very obvious and forthright attacks, you whiny twat.
 
:D

Fridge is better at P&P, imo. I get all confused and make a mess by trying to appease people. Fridge just posts once and bans out of the blue. Much harder to get a grip on a style like that :)

So you're Chamberlain to Fridge's Churchill, then? :p
 
Apologies if this is an inappropriate question for this thread. Could someone explain this quote from the Times 26/11:

Nick Clegg and Vince Cable are preparing to abstain from the pivotal Commons vote on increasing tuition fees, putting the policy on a knife-edge.

Liberal Democrat ministers are discussing plans to abstain together, alongside most of their backbenchers, as the best way to hold the party together. A final decision has not been taken but senior Lib Dems indicated that this was the likely outcome, leaving a hardcore of just over a dozen Lib Dem rebels voting against.

The move would present the coalition with its gravest test to date, leaving Conservative MPs to vote the fees rise through and raising questions about the Lib Dems' credibility. Lib Dem MPs spent three hours at their weekly meeting on Tuesday evening debating how they should vote. Even by abstaining they would still break the election pledge that all Lib Dem MPs signed to "vote against any increase in fees in the next Parliament".

If 15 Lib Dem MPs voted against and the remaining 42 abstained, the coalition's majority would fall to 11.

Does this mean that the coalition will lose the vote in the HofC? Thank you.
 
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