What's the Spartacist League up to these days?
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Paul Kegan
I have not read it all myself yet, but I think that the article by the International Bolshevik Tendency, that I posted earlier, informs us about the change of heart by the Sparts.
hitmouse
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kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
I haven't dipped my toe in this stuff since a couple of weeks in the SWP as a student - there was a girl called Sophie in the SWP, I fancied her, so I joined the SWP. I met the SWP, and decided I didn't fancy Sophie that much...
Anyway, if I thought that the Sparts were abandoning a rigid 'no war but class war', for a more practical 'fight the national/international war, then worry about fighting the class war', would I be within a thousand miles of it?
(Sophie left the SWP a few months after me - she joined the climbing club instead, we dated for a few months, but it fizzled out)
Anyway, if I thought that the Sparts were abandoning a rigid 'no war but class war', for a more practical 'fight the national/international war, then worry about fighting the class war', would I be within a thousand miles of it?
(Sophie left the SWP a few months after me - she joined the climbing club instead, we dated for a few months, but it fizzled out)
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
The tradition of all the dead generations weighs like a nightmare on the brain of the living
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Paul Kegan
Well, the Spartacist tendency always took the Trotskyist position of recognising the right of nations to self-determination, but not liquidating the party programme in favour of a bloc with nationalists. Now it seems that it supports forming a liquidationist bloc with nationalists in oppressed nations.
Fozzie Bear
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£75 for this poster. Brighten up any living room on man-cave, I'd say.
Revolt Against Capitalism - Zetetic Books
[003718] [Spartacus League] The Revolt Against Capitalism Needs Revolutionaries – Come to the Spartacus League National Conference London February 20 21. London: Spartacus League, First Edition. Elephant Folio (Oblong). Unbound. Poster. Fair. Single sided printed poster, approximately 620mm x...
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i don't think we're the people they're hoping will buy itView attachment 409306
£75 for this poster. Brighten up any living room on man-cave, I'd say.
Revolt Against Capitalism - Zetetic Books
[003718] [Spartacus League] The Revolt Against Capitalism Needs Revolutionaries – Come to the Spartacus League National Conference London February 20 21. London: Spartacus League, First Edition. Elephant Folio (Oblong). Unbound. Poster. Fair. Single sided printed poster, approximately 620mm x...
Fozzie Bear
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My reverse-google-image skills aren't up to much, but a cynical nay-sayer might suggest that the photo on that poster is not from a Spart event?
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Starry Wisdom
the sparts were well represented there, with 10% of their membership taking the photo
kenny g
Sheeple Awake!
Evidence of early Spart adoption of CGI?
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I think it's been nicked from the Urbanites for Brewdog rally after they ditched the living wage .
PTK
Paul Kegan
The Spartacus League (not SpartaCIST) was the youth section of the International Marxist Group. Note the Pentonville Road address, which was the address of the IMG. Late 60s or early 70s, I would say You can tell from the hairstyles.View attachment 409306
£75 for this poster. Brighten up any living room on man-cave, I'd say.
Revolt Against Capitalism - Zetetic Books
[003718] [Spartacus League] The Revolt Against Capitalism Needs Revolutionaries – Come to the Spartacus League National Conference London February 20 21. London: Spartacus League, First Edition. Elephant Folio (Oblong). Unbound. Poster. Fair. Single sided printed poster, approximately 620mm x...
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Paul Kegan
"We present here a selection of documents produced by the Spartacus League, a revolutionary youth group established in 1970 by supporters and sympahisers of the IMG, which was to fuse with the IMG itself in 1972."
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Notes for a history of the IMG 12: The Spartacus League
We present here a selection of documents produced by the Spartacus League, a revolutionary youth group established in 1970 by supporters and sympahisers of the IMG, which was to fuse with the IMG i…
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Paul Kegan
Look, comrade, I have a list, and you're on it.
PTK
Paul Kegan
Neither the Spartacus League, nor the Spartacist League, should be confused with this:
en.wikipedia.org
Spartacus International Gay Guide - Wikipedia
hitmouse
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I know the CL are not actually part of the Spart family tree, but saw a Communist League stall today and it had intense Spart energy, and probably fits on this thread better than on the General Election 2024 thread:
Choosing to make "Defend Israel's right to exist" a central part of the working-class campaign in the general election is certainly, um, an interesting choice.
Choosing to make "Defend Israel's right to exist" a central part of the working-class campaign in the general election is certainly, um, an interesting choice.
PTK
Paul Kegan
The Communist League in Britain is associated with the US Socialist Workers Party. Pathfinder Press is associated with the US SWP.
Pathfinder Press published a reprint of “The Jewish Question: A Marxist Interpretation”, which was written by a Belgian Trotskyist of Jewish heritage called Abram Leon, who was gassed by the Nazis in 1944, at the age of 26.
In this reprint, which I bought recently, there is a new introduction by Dave Prince, written in 2020, in which it states: “In the UK we’ve seen the deepening anti-Jewish evolution of the Labour Party under Jeremy Corbyn. . . ”.
Perhaps they come out with this crap to justify their decision to stand in Islington North in 2017, the glorious result of which was a total of seven votes. (In other words, three more people nominate their candidate than voted for him).
Well spotted, and I agree with you posting on this thread.
RD2003
Got a really fucking shitty attitude
It all stems from one of the strangest minds in the history of the international far-left, that of Jack Barnes, long-time unchallenged US SWP vozhd. It's all very weird, as he must have some way of justifying having created what is possibly the most pointless and apparently deluded collection of sects ever, especially as he is clearly very intelligent and in possession of a lot of ability. Came across this recently: https://swphistory.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/a-winters-tale.pdf
kenny g
Sheeple Awake!
Pathfinder must have had a stall at the London radical book fair. Was on the receiving end of a rather intense attempt to soft sell the Jewish question book alongside a suggestion I attend a meeting on Cuba. There must be some rule at the fair against recruitment or canvassing as it all seemed very intensely discreet.I managed to retain my money. Is the book any good?
Fozzie Bear
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I also had that at the Bookfair. Do we both look the type
hitmouse
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In my head I thought I vaguely remembered some nonsense where either Corbyn or someone within Labour was attacked as antisemitic for reading/recommending that book, but looked it up and turns out I got mixed up, it wasn't Labour party stuff at all but an incident during those years where a particularly dim set of Tommy Robinson/Trump fanboys tried to storm Bookmarks and were convinced they'd found proof that Bookmarks/"the left" must be antisemitic because they were selling the Leon book.
Never read it myself, but it gets a glowing review from butchers in that thread.
Anyway, if anyone's keen for more of this stuff, the Militant website is really pretty impressive in its mix of very oldskool Trotskyism, lots of Cuba, and then a lot of full-on Zionism. Suppose it's easy to compare to the AWL but I don't remember them ever being quite this full-on:
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