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What stupid shit has Trump done today?

Trump is up from 4.9 false claims a day to 7.6.

He's getting better at being a big fat bullshitter :)

- The Washington Post

I object most strongly to this post.
Apart from being fatist in nature, the content suggests Trump is a good liar but this is clearly untrue as his lies are so easy to spot - it's just he's telling more of them per day.
If he was farting, he'd be a better farter, but this is from his mouth ...... er ...

OK, you win :D
 
I loath saying this, but Trump is a winner.
He doesn't seem to be able to be arrested, charged, brought in to testify, or anything else that normal bastard criminals that should be facing treason and a million other charges usually have to face.

Thus far certainly. I think what's so compelling about the Trump saga is that it's almost Shakespearean in that we so desperately want him to come an absolute cropper (and he might),
but that we are worried he might get away with it too.

The first outcome would be wonderful, brimming with justice and hilarity etc. The other would be disastrous, confounding etc. The vast difference in these possible outcomes is a major component of what keeps us understandably glued.
 
He’s going to win a second term.

If he gets as far as the elections, it's possible.
The very fact people are stupid enough to vote for him is a very sad reflection on US democracy in general.

Now for the big problem - if that happens, he's very likely go go mad with power on the assumption no one can stop anything and everyone loves every move he makes.
Very dangerous.
 
"Thank you to Chairman Kim Jong Un for keeping your word & starting the process of sending home the remains of our great and beloved missing fallen! I am not at all surprised that you took this kind action. Also, thank you for your nice letter - l look forward to seeing you soon!"

Wow!
 
Rather than consider the horror of a second term or spend time condemning him maybe the Democrats should concentrate on putting a decent candidate forward with a decent vision to compete with him and try to win an election based on a positive agenda.

The dems fucked up in a large way by putting Hillary up as a potential president. If they couldn't find someone better, they must be pretty shit.
 
And still ...no one obvious ....

Mind you .....47 onwards is finally going to have to deal with the debt ...with the ruins and detritus of trumps slash and burn all around .....and a violently politically polarized nation .

shit job ...the next prez will probably turn up for the first day in the job , to find that trumps taken all the furniture , including the taps ,lightbulbs ,door handles , and the cat flap ..
 
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He’s going to win a second term.
In some ways I think whether he does or not, isn't important. The scary thing is, what happens post-Trump? Since he's normalised this kind of behaviour both to get the GOP nomination and being POTUS, if you were a Republican with an eye on winning the nomination for 2020, wouldn't you now be thinking 'Gee, I just gotta be like Trump and I'm in with a chance'?

Out of all the candidates for the GOP primaries in 2016, from what I recall, Ted Cruz was the candidate who realised this (belatedly, like the rest of them) and tried to out-Trump Trump; still failed miserably mind but he gave it a good go. :D By setting the standard then, what does the future hold and will candidates try to be even more provocative / extreme believing it holds political capital? :eek:
 
In some ways I think whether he does or not, isn't important. The scary thing is, what happens post-Trump? Since he's normalised this kind of behaviour both to get the GOP nomination and being POTUS, if you were a Republican with an eye on winning the nomination for 2020, wouldn't you now be thinking 'Gee, I just gotta be like Trump and I'm in with a chance'?

Out of all the candidates for the GOP primaries in 2016, from what I recall, Ted Cruz was the candidate who realised this (belatedly, like the rest of them) and tried to out-Trump Trump; still failed miserably mind but he gave it a good go. :D By setting the standard then, what does the future hold and will candidates try to be even more provocative / extreme believing it holds political capital? :eek:

Oh fuck, you could be right.
 
In some ways I think whether he does or not, isn't important. The scary thing is, what happens post-Trump? Since he's normalised this kind of behaviour both to get the GOP nomination and being POTUS, if you were a Republican with an eye on winning the nomination for 2020, wouldn't you now be thinking 'Gee, I just gotta be like Trump and I'm in with a chance'?

But maybe it's a good thing that Trump has broken the mould for how politicians should act. Rather than just spewing establishment soundbites and towing the line for the lobbyists, they should actually try to connect to the voters, to the people they are supposed to be accountable to. Going back to how things was won't be any good as that obviously got to a point enough people had enough of.

I'd agree that Trump's behaviour to women, immigrants etc. shouldn't be normalised, but listening to core voters should be. It's up to societal institutions and family to instill decent behaviour in individuals, politicians should be there to represent the people. The problem is if the people become bigoted, racist etc.
 
Patriots and progressives, the time has come to elect the first female President who will make you proud, vote Ivanka 2024.

Your dear leader President Pissbaby
 
Rather than consider the horror of a second term or spend time condemning him maybe the Democrats should concentrate on putting a decent candidate forward with a decent vision to compete with him and try to win an election based on a positive agenda.
Bit early for that. The mid term elections haven't even happened yet. The Trump regime and GOP dominated congress are trying their level best undermine the prospect of free and fair elections in November, and there's also still time for there to be a "national emergency" that means the November elections are "suspended."

If, and it's still a big "if" for the reasons above, the Democrats manage to flip the House, and perhaps even the Senate, there's a chance to at least halt the rot.

It's not all about who's in the White House. One step at a time.
 
The dems fucked up in a large way by putting Hillary up as a potential president. If they couldn't find someone better, they must be pretty shit.
FFS, just let that shit go and stop rehashing the 2016 election. It's done, over, kapput. I know it seems obligatory around these parts to boast about how much you hate Clinton, whatever your political stripe, but it doesn't fucking matter.

Hint - sadly, the next Democratic Party candidate will not be a woman, and will not be a person of colour, cause you know, people will find "reasons" that they are not acceptable. They're already starting to do that with people who haven't even sniffed the idea of running, so old white dude it will be. If we're lucky, it might be one of the better models. Yay for progress I guess. :rolleyes:

(By the way, when you say, "The Dems" put Clinton up as a candidate, these are registered Democratic Party voters, not the party machinery or leadership, but ordinary people going into voting booths at the primary and casting their vote. And she did get 3m more votes cast for her over Trump in the General, so, that's a lot of people being vilified for their choice here.)
 
In some ways I think whether he does or not, isn't important. The scary thing is, what happens post-Trump? Since he's normalised this kind of behaviour both to get the GOP nomination and being POTUS, if you were a Republican with an eye on winning the nomination for 2020, wouldn't you now be thinking 'Gee, I just gotta be like Trump and I'm in with a chance'?

Out of all the candidates for the GOP primaries in 2016, from what I recall, Ted Cruz was the candidate who realised this (belatedly, like the rest of them) and tried to out-Trump Trump; still failed miserably mind but he gave it a good go. :D By setting the standard then, what does the future hold and will candidates try to be even more provocative / extreme believing it holds political capital? :eek:
If the Trump regime is deposed, at some stage, there will need to be something like a truth and reconciliation commission, or perhaps Nuremberg stylie trials. Things that would have been unthinkable 10 years ago, even 5 years ago have now become the norm - everything from separating children from parents and locking them in cages to widespread acceptance, nay support for a foreign country intervening in the country's elections. These ghastly genies ain't going to pop back into the bottle willingly, just because the party that pushes them loses the vote. There hasn't been anything like this in American history, except maybe the ideological differences in the mid 19th century regarding slavery, but even then, not the same. I wouldn't be the least surprised if there is a Civil War in the US within the next few years, whether or not that's part of a world war, not sure.
 
In other news, kind of related to this thread . . .

Suspected Russian spy found working at US embassy in Moscow

The Russian national had been hired by the US Secret Service and is understood to have had access to the agency’s intranet and email systems, which gave her a potential window into highly confidential material including the schedules of the president and vice-president.

The woman had been working for the Secret Service for years before she came under suspicion in 2016 during a routine security sweep conducted by two investigators from the US Department of State’s Regional Security Office (RSO).
The Guardian has been told the RSO sounded the alarm in January 2017, but the Secret Service did not launch a full-scale inquiry of its own. Instead it decided to let her go quietly months later, possibly to contain any potential embarrassment.
“The Secret Service is trying to hide the breach by firing [her],” the source said. “The damage was already done but the senior management of the Secret Service did not conduct any internal investigation to assess the damage and to see if [she] recruited any other employees to provide her with more information.
 
FFS, just let that shit go and stop rehashing the 2016 election. It's done, over, kapput. I know it seems obligatory around these parts to boast about how much you hate Clinton, whatever your political stripe, but it doesn't fucking matter.

Remember that bit about 'if we don't learn from history'?
Clinton was a bloody terrible choice, a candidate out for herself and one that didn't give a toss about anything but herself. She was as stupid as she was dangerous and I refuse to support her just because she was put up by the party I'm inclined to agree with in so many ways.
That bullshit is how Trump managed to get the presidency and, if the Democrats are stupid enough to pick another shit candidate, is how Trump will win another term.
The Democratic party need a real presidential candidate, one with decent political views and a personality the US electorate will warm to.
Anti Trump is always good news, but there MUST be a positive alternative for voters to WANT to choose.
If not, say hello to Trump term two.
(Assuming he doesn't go before his time when the truth of his deeds comes out)
 
Hint - sadly, the next Democratic Party candidate will not be a woman, and will not be a person of colour, cause you know, people will find "reasons" that they are not acceptable.

I loath racism and sexism for the stupidity they are, but trying to get a candidate in there because of their body or skin colour is moronic.
We (I can't vote so I'm talking as someone with general socialist and fair principals) MUST choose a candidate based on their politics, ability, AND electability, all regardless of their gender, colour, sexual whatever, or anything else.
Of course the right will object to anyone that isn't a while male with a gun stuffed down his trousers but that bunch are a lost cause anyway - the democratic party can pretty much rely on its core supporters so the middle of the road voters are who they must target, and they are failing in epic fashion to get there.
I hope and believe the vast majority of people aren't moronic racists so, with that in mind, I don't believe the gender or race of the candidate will make much difference, so the best person for the job is who must be chosen.
 
Remember that bit about 'if we don't learn from history'?
Clinton was a bloody terrible choice, a candidate out for herself and one that didn't give a toss about anything but herself. She was as stupid as she was dangerous and I refuse to support her just because she was put up by the party I'm inclined to agree with in so many ways.
That bullshit is how Trump managed to get the presidency and, if the Democrats are stupid enough to pick another shit candidate, is how Trump will win another term.
The Democratic party need a real presidential candidate, one with decent political views and a personality the US electorate will warm to.
Anti Trump is always good news, but there MUST be a positive alternative for voters to WANT to choose.
If not, say hello to Trump term two.
(Assuming he doesn't go before his time when the truth of his deeds comes out)
Sorry to labour the point, but let's remember that Clinton had overwhelming support from Democrats of colour and people on lower incomes generally during the primaries, so please bear in mind, these are the people that you are labelling as "stupid" for choosing Clinton.

In the general election, something like 90% of African Americans voted Clinton over Trump, while the majority of white men and 53% of white women chose Trump. The majority of people on the lowest incomes of all ethnic backgrounds also voted Clinton. I'd suggest the better off white folks either voted Trump because they liked his policies, or because they hated Clinton for reasons that were nothing to do with her policies and they knew even with Trump in the white house, the situation wouldn't change much for them, and fuck the folks who would suffer, just because who cares about them anyhow?

And you are blaming people who supported Clinton for Trump? What kind of ass backwards logic is that?

I'm pretty sure I've asked you before, but which of Clinton's policies did you oppose, or you though made her a "bloody terrible choice" as a candidate? They are all archived here.

I don't accept that all those white folks who either voted Trump, third party or not at all because they didn't like Clinton thought Trump and the GOP were just joshing about their plans, or that they were too stupid to understand what Trump and the GOP would do. They made it pretty goddamned obvious what they planned to do if in power.

Nope, I think this, "but Clinton was an awful candidate," bollocks is so peeps can feel less bad about taking their eyes off the ball when Trump was elected. *

* Voter suppression measures, dodgy voting machine results in key districts with high numbers of Democratic Party voters and evidence of hacking and disinformation campaigns by agents of a foreign country also apply.
 
I loath racism and sexism for the stupidity they are, but trying to get a candidate in there because of their body or skin colour is moronic.
We (I can't vote so I'm talking as someone with general socialist and fair principals) MUST choose a candidate based on their politics, ability, AND electability, all regardless of their gender, colour, sexual whatever, or anything else.
Of course the right will object to anyone that isn't a while male with a gun stuffed down his trousers but that bunch are a lost cause anyway - the democratic party can pretty much rely on its core supporters so the middle of the road voters are who they must target, and they are failing in epic fashion to get there.
I hope and believe the vast majority of people aren't moronic racists so, with that in mind, I don't believe the gender or race of the candidate will make much difference, so the best person for the job is who must be chosen.
I believe in the tooth fairy.
 
Democrats of colour

You have no idea how much I hate to read shit like that.
I don't give a fuck what colour someone is and, if someone does, they're probably a silly cunt. I see bollocks such as 'democrats of colour' as just a little extra racist shit adding to an already seriously racist shit situation in the US.
People are people.
 
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