Weasel Straw strikes again (Pakistani men in Britain see white girls as "easy meat")

[pk]

Eh, pk, Islam vs Catholics/Fundies on child abuse, contraception and abortion? A telling silence I'd have to say.

I don't see catholic priests deliberately seeking non-catholics to rape, nor jewish men going after goyim kids.

I see news articles and senior politicians and muslim leaders accepting there is an issue that needs addressing.

And I see urban75's politico dickwads harking from the Scargill-era of 1980's dead lefty ideas refusing point blank to engage with the issue because they're terrified of being seen to be in any way politically incorrect.

And sadly it's exactly what I expected to see. Makes me laugh though, if it wasn't such a tragic issue it would be even funnier.

Bunch of fucking lemmings.

 

[TruXta]

Has the issue of scale ever brushed your dwarfish mind? We're talking about millions and millions of people who are told that no you can't use contraception, no you can't abort your pregnancy. We're talking about the head of the world's largest organized religion telling his minions to keep pervasive kiddy-fiddling (also known as rape) within the ranks of the consecrated. And you're trying to tell us that a bunch of fucknuts up in Bradford going about raping young white girls are somehow worse than this?

You're out of your fucking mind.

 

[Lock&Light]

It's the stonings, chopping off hands, and the like that make Islam the most barbaric. All religions are in some way barbaric, but Islam is more so than others.

 

[Proper Tidy]

It's the stonings, chopping off hands, and the like that make Islam the most barbaric. All religions are in some way barbaric, but Islam is more so than others.

Have no other tyrants claiming divine approval ever stoned anybody or chopped off hands? Only muslim ones?

 

[phildwyer]

trying to deny the rich history, past and present, of violence, genocide and oppression done at the hands of Christian actors is ludicrous.

Is it just Mel Gibson or are there others?

 

[TruXta]

It's the stonings, chopping off hands, and the like that make Islam the most barbaric. All religions are in some way barbaric, but Islam is more so than others.

Yeah, and those electric chairs and poison injections they have in the Bible Belt are oh so humane.

 

[LiamO]

Go fuck your mother.

Is english your first language? Cos that sounds like it came straight from a non-english speaking person - like say an arabic islamic fundy.

 

[TruXta]

Is it just Mel Gibson or are there others?

Fuck off dwyer, you apologist cunt.

 

[phildwyer]

Fuck off dwyer, you apologist cunt.

Was that really called for?

 

[TruXta]

Yes, yes it was. That'll be all from me I think, you don't deserve any more energy expenditure.

 

[phildwyer]

Yes, yes it was. That'll be all from me I think, you don't deserve any more energy expenditure.

What a strange, angry little person you are.

 

[Citizen66]

It's the stonings, chopping off hands, and the like that make Islam the most barbaric. All religions are in some way barbaric, but Islam is more so than others.

That is governments taking that action, not every adherent to the religion itself. And of course America doesn't put anyone on the electric chair so they certainly arent in the barbaric camp being denounced by your sanctimonious self.

 

[Citizen66]

Yeah, and those electric chairs and poison injections they have in the Bible Belt are oh so humane.

I concur.

 

[Pickman's model]

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/threads/82850-Sleeping-pills?p=1972618&viewfull=1#post1972618

I think sleeping pills count... would you like me to quote where you describe having to hide them to keep them out of temptation's way??

in terms of this thread, what i'd like you to do is to quote a post where i indicate i have taken sleeping tablets since april 2003. not something from 2004 where i said i did take them but no longer did. i'd like you to advance your argument, not confirm what i've already said.

oh - and sleeping pills are not anti-depressants, certainly not as i understand the term. anti-depressants are drugs you take for depression, in other words things you take for a fairly long time (months and not weeks) whereas sleeping pills are not supposed to be taken for that sort of period, or indeed cause. lots of people take sleeping pills, including people who are not in fact depressed.

 

[Lock&Light]

Have no other tyrants claiming divine approval ever stoned anybody or chopped off hands? Only muslim ones?

Not still to this day.

 

[Lock&Light]

That is governments taking that action, not every adherent to the religion itself. And of course America doesn't put anyone on the electric chair so they certainly arent in the barbaric camp being denounced by your sanctimonious self.

The electric chair, (hardly used anymore, by the way, but all executions can be classed together) is certainly a form of barbarism. I still see stoning as a degree worse.

 

[TruXta]

Ever heard of the Lord's Resistance Army, L&L?

 

[Lock&Light]

Ever heard of the Lord's Resistance Army, L&L?

Most certainly. A short-lived terror compared with Islam.

 

[TruXta]

There you go, pretending that Islam is a monolithic group or entity where everyone agrees on everything. Are you really that ignorant?

 

[TruXta]

And talking about Islamic jurisprudence - it's only Iran and Saudi Arabia that uses sharia as a basis for all aspects of law and jurisprudence. The largest predominantly Muslim countries - Turkey, Indonesia, Pakistan, Bangladesh - do not. Furthermore, where sharia forms part of law, it's typically only those parts relating to domestic and inheritance matters. Criminal law tends overwhelmingly towards secular frameworks.

 

[Lock&Light]

There you go, pretending that Islam is a monolithic group or entity where everyone agrees on everything. Are you really that ignorant?

If I thought you were an idiot I wouldn't bother asking you first.

I'm not asking.

 

[TruXta]

If I thought you were an idiot I wouldn't bother asking you first.

I'm not asking.

So you stand by your implied point that Islam is everywhere and at all times a monolithic cultural entity?

 

[phildwyer]

So you stand by your implied point that Islam is everywhere and at all times a monolithic cultural entity?

He has made no such claim, as you know.

 

[Lock&Light]

So you stand by your implied point that Islam is everywhere and at all times a monolithic cultural entity?

I implied no such thing. Nor would I want to stand by anyone who did suggest such a thing. But stoning is and remains an Islamic tradition while it's died out almost everywhere else.

 

[TruXta]

He has made no such claim, as you know.

Not in so many words, but he's certainly implying it by writing ignorant shit like "A short-lived terror compared with Islam", "It's the stonings, chopping off hands, and the like that make Islam the most barbaric" to use just two recent examples. He's certainly unwilling to concede that Islam and Islamic law isn't the same everywhere anymore than Christianity is.

I implied no such thing. Nor would I want to stand by anyone who did suggest such a thing. But stoning is and remains an Islamic tradition while it's died out almost everywhere else.

There you go again, sonny. It's not an Islamic tradition anymore, just like burning witches isn't a Christian tradition anymore. It simply doesn't happen in the places where the majority of muslims live, despite what you believe.

 

[Lock&Light]

sonny.

Now I know and will never need to ask.

 

[phildwyer]

burning witches isn't a Christian tradition anymore.

Plenty of witches are still being burned by Christians.

 

[phildwyer]

sonny.

If you refer to L&L in this manner, you must be about 100 years old. That explains much.

 

[Lock&Light]

Plenty of witches are still being burned by Christians.

Where does that happen, phil?

 

[phildwyer]

Where does that happen, phil?

In Africa.