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What is this non story exactly? "Some people are racist" just about sums it up.

Yes, we should accept that some people are racist, is that the end of the conversation then? Is there nothing to be gained from further discussion about why and how it is impacting society?

Who is being accused of racism exactly. It is almost as if she wants to police people's private conversations. :confused:

It appears to be more wanting to engage honestly with the growing trend of 'Muslims' being characterised as the 'bogeyman' and how socially acceptable it has become to discriminate against them on account of them being 'Muslim'.
 
Yes, we should accept that some people are racist, is that the end of the conversation then? Is there nothing to be gained from further discussion about why and how it is impacting society?



It appears to be more wanting to engage honestly with the growing trend of 'Muslims' being characterised as the 'bogeyman' and how socially acceptable it has become to discriminate against them on account of them being 'Muslim'.

What was she saying exactly, that's what I mean, it was so woolly I don't get it. Also, why exactly did Dr Ringding post this up and how does it have anything to do with the thread (apols if I've missed the point here)

Of course racism should be fucking challenged, but exactly what has all this dinner party stuff got to do with it? People being abused racially on the street, or at work, or turned down for jobs is actually racism in action, I don't think there's any shortage of cases that like unfortunately. Maybe I'm saying she could have picked a better example quite easily but she is so very far away from the experiences of ordinary people that she couldn't do that.

In terms of people being characterised as bogeymen she could also have mentioned single mums, disabled people on benefits and so on, but to be honest I'm not too worried about what people in dinner parties say about them either, it's more about our media and politicians attitudes.
 
Yes, we should accept that some people are racist, is that the end of the conversation then? Is there nothing to be gained from further discussion about why and how it is impacting society?



It appears to be more wanting to engage honestly with the growing trend of 'Muslims' being characterised as the 'bogeyman' and how socially acceptable it has become to discriminate against them on account of them being 'Muslim'.

You're racist. What should we do about you?
 
Rutita1, I would hope you have taken the time to read my responses to your post above... it would be a shame if you failed to show any intellectual maturity by failing to acknowledge the valid points I made in it. :)
 
Meanwhile in Barnsley...

I think the original point has all but burned out. And yeah I've been a tenacious little shit throughout this dumb thread but I think I have had a right to be.

Someone let me know if there are any "valid points" that I appear not to have registered yet, it seems Rutita1 has taken the night off, gawd bless her.

I just think people who just beat themselves down into silence over issues they fear to speak up about are not the kind of people that are equipped to represent the sort of decent society the planet needs right now.

It also seems to me that very few people on this forum have any friends or relatives or loved ones in the armed forces fighting in deserts against this very shit.

When a land is ruled by tribal people who spend all the money blowing up schools just because they teach girls.

It's as if we are not even, as a country, at war at all. Hello!!

Very depressing stuff if people can't even talk about this stuff. Basic human issues of justice and freedom. All off limits apparently. Wow, how wonderful.
 
When a land is ruled by tribal people who spend all the money blowing up schools just because they teach girls.

'They' spend 'all the money blowing up schools'?

So, you're a tubthumper for the Afghan war?

....and yes I have a couple of mates that regularly end up there but I don't translate my fears for their safety into hate for Muslims.
 
I think the original point has all but burned out. And yeah I've been a tenacious little shit throughout this dumb thread but I think I have had a right to be.

Someone let me know if there are any "valid points" that I appear not to have registered yet, it seems Rutita1 has taken the night off, gawd bless her.

I just think people who just beat themselves down into silence over issues they fear to speak up about are not the kind of people that are equipped to represent the sort of decent society the planet needs right now.

It also seems to me that very few people on this forum have any friends or relatives or loved ones in the armed forces fighting in deserts against this very shit.

When a land is ruled by tribal people who spend all the money blowing up schools just because they teach girls.

It's as if we are not even, as a country, at war at all. Hello!!

Very depressing stuff if people can't even talk about this stuff. Basic human issues of justice and freedom. All off limits apparently. Wow, how wonderful.

what a massive pile of steaming horseshit.
 
Very depressing stuff if people can't even talk about this stuff. Basic human issues of justice and freedom. All off limits apparently. Wow, how wonderful.

And here it is. The inevitable moronic moan that it's an attack on freedom of speech if anyone criticises ridiculous prejudiced garbage. We can discuss it. We just have. What you can't expect is to spout bigoted bullshit and not to be called on it. If you don't like that then tough shit.
 
And here it is. The inevitable moronic moan that it's an attack on freedom of speech if anyone criticises ridiculous prejudiced garbage. We can discuss it. We just have. What you can't expect is to spout bigoted bullshit and not to be called on it. If you don't like that then tough shit.

YOU have yet to show anything that disproves the figures from Norway, in fact you've only sered to cloud the issue by mumbling about detection rates and "reality", then completely ignoring my reply to your utterly inconclusive post.

I fail to see what is "ridiculous prejudiced garbage" in a set of statistics that you have utterly failed to prove are just lies made up by some senior Norwegian cop.

In fact the only bigotry here is against said cop, she must be lying if she's a cop, right??
 
'They' spend 'all the money blowing up schools'?

So, you're a tubthumper for the Afghan war?

....and yes I have a couple of mates that regularly end up there but I don't translate my fears for their safety into hate for Muslims.

Neither do I you twat, this is about islam. You remember - you said you hate islam, right?

Why is that? Why did you say you're the only one here with a real reason to hate islam on page 2 of this thread??

Why are you too scared to answer that?
 
YOU have yet to show anything that disproves the figures from Norway, in fact you've only sered to cloud the issue by mumbling about detection rates and "reality", then completely ignoring my reply to your utterly inconclusive post.

I fail to see what is "ridiculous prejudiced garbage" in a set of statistics that you have utterly failed to prove are just lies made up by some senior Norwegian cop.

In fact the only bigotry here is against said cop, she must be lying if she's a cop, right??

Is this the figures that 100% of rapes commited in Oslo are by Johnny Foreigner?
 
Perhaps you've completely changed your tune about the first sentence of your post here, and totally bottled out of elaborating on the second. :D

You're presuming I'm saying this doesn't go on. It does.

I'd wager that I'm the only one on this thread to have really suffered at the hands of 'traditional' islamic values.
 
Islam, like every single one of the Abrahamic liar cults, iis utter tosh
Same for Judaism and Christianity, all utter tosh
All have used their 'faith' as excuses to perpetrate the vilest horros ever known on the other group
They all be stupid
No one book, whichever lying cunt wrote it, is total truth
 
You lack of logic is disapointing but predictable.

Do 100% of rapes in Oslo come from effniks?

According to police figures that nobody has yet disproved, they do.

Your lack of clarity in what you meant when you said "I'd wager that I'm the only one on this thread to have really suffered at the hands of 'traditional' islamic values" is disappointing but predictable.
 
not even the figures you quote claim that. Stupid boy

PK is a well known drama queen/king and attention seeker. Why people keep on arguing and feeding him is beyind me. He's not even witty and amusing, like phildwyer or spymaster.
 
Quite possibly

Have you ever been to Norway?

Went there once for 2 days by7 accident

Awful, awful place

I've not been there either... but I went all over Finland... it's a very odd and depressing part of the world, massive suicide rates, near permanent darkness for much of the year, wouldn't wanna live there in a million years.
 
It also seems to me that very few people on this forum have any friends or relatives or loved ones in the armed forces fighting in deserts against this very shit.
Oh for fuck's sake.
Plenty of us have friends or comrades serving there. They're not "fighting against this shit". They're being sacrificed to fig-leaf the USA's attempt to dominate the region. My regt alone (now known as "the Rifles") has suffered more than 30 fatalities in the 'stan.
When a land is ruled by tribal people who spend all the money blowing up schools just because they teach girls.
Inaccurate crap. Afghanistan isn't ruled by any such people, more correctly it isn't rules as a country at all, which allows the people who call themselves "the Taliban" to range through parts of the country at will, conducting profitable smuggling operations between Pakistan and Iran (fuel and consumer goods to Pakistan, opium products and "banned" technologies to Iran).
It's as if we are not even, as a country, at war at all. Hello!!
We're not "at war". There was never any official declaration of war, just an attempt to justify the invasion through reference to (IIRC) article 51 of the UN charter. There's no actual legal basis with even the threadbareness of the Iraq justifications.
Our armed forces are engaged in a military situation, but it's not a "war", it's the policing of insurgency. It's them that are being required to do this, NOT "the country".
Very depressing stuff if people can't even talk about this stuff. Basic human issues of justice and freedom. All off limits apparently. Wow, how wonderful.
Stop playing the martyr. It pisses on the memories of the people you're pretending to have respect for.
 
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