I think the original point has all but burned out. And yeah I've been a tenacious little shit throughout this dumb thread but I think I have had a right to be.
Someone let me know if there are any "valid points" that I appear not to have registered yet, it seems Rutita1 has taken the night off, gawd bless her.
I just think people who just beat themselves down into silence over issues they fear to speak up about are not the kind of people that are equipped to represent the sort of decent society the planet needs right now.
It also seems to me that very few people on this forum have any friends or relatives or loved ones in the armed forces fighting in deserts against this very shit.
When a land is ruled by tribal people who spend all the money blowing up schools just because they teach girls.
It's as if we are not even, as a country, at war at all. Hello!!
Very depressing stuff if people can't even talk about this stuff. Basic human issues of justice and freedom. All off limits apparently. Wow, how wonderful.