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Weasel Straw strikes again (Pakistani men in Britain see white girls as "easy meat")

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Utter cop out. Why should I provide clarity on an irrelevant point I didn't even make?
You missed the point.

Again.


So the old man had 1800's values. So sue him. Times have changed. His form of communism survives, Marx's pretty much died in 1990.
It's not a form of communism in any way, shape or form, except in some delusion you appear to be currently experiencing, where "communal" suddenly means "communist".
As for Marx, it's great that you can trot out (no pun intended!) the media line about "Marx's form", but it doesn't really reflect reality, which is that Marxism provided little of the basis on which the Soviet bloc was run, and that Marx's ideas are still extremely useful in analysing modern economics.

Sorry to gainsay you with reality, like.
 
So what do you reckon big man?

Pakistani muslim gangs deliberately avoiding non-Pakistani children?

Or you deliberately avoiding giving your opinion on the matter?

There's an old adage that many people engaged in criminal activities (from burglary to paedophilia) tend to stick to:

"Don't shit on your own doorstep".

Are you claiming that these scum were motivated entirely by an utter contempt for the wider culture of the land they live in, or could it be that they knew they were more likely to get caught if they shat on their own doorsteps?

After all, we hear so much about "honour killings", don't we?
 
There's an old adage that many people engaged in criminal activities (from burglary to paedophilia) tend to stick to:

"Don't shit on your own doorstep".

Are you claiming that these scum were motivated entirely by an utter contempt for the wider culture of the land they live in, or could it be that they knew they were more likely to get caught if they shat on their own doorsteps?

After all, we hear so much about "honour killings", don't we?

Motivated partly, yes, I believe.
 
So what do you reckon big man?

Pakistani muslim gangs deliberately avoiding non-Pakistani children?

Or you deliberately avoiding giving your opinion on the matter?

Thought I'd just repeat this for the benefit of the selectively blind...
 
which thread topic is that pk? you've changed your mind about it several times. one minute it's islam is the most despicable religion on the planet, then it's why some cops wonderful, now its limited to do Pakistani muslim gangs deliberately avoiding non-Pakistani children?

Make your mind up, or we might start to think you are constantly shifting the goalposts, every time you let another goal in.

I suppose the fact that you have clearly copied these tactics so well from Jazzzz shows you are capable of learning. Shame it's the only evidence so far.
 
which thread topic is that pk? you've changed your mind about it several times. one minute it's islam is the most despicable religion on the planet, then it's why some cops wonderful, now its limited to do Pakistani muslim gangs deliberately avoiding non-Pakistani children?

Make your mind up, or we might start to think you are constantly shifting the goalposts, every time you let another goal in.

I suppose the fact that you have clearly copied these tactics so well from Jazzzz shows you are capable of learning. Shame it's the only evidence so far.

You think the cop from Norway is lying. Or at least, you're too scared to put forth your opinions on her reported figures.
 
Right. More reality. But first an answer to a point made earlier by pk. Actually in 1987 there were at least two rape crisis centres in Oslo, one at a major hospital (for which I linked to statistics) and the DIXI centre.

The detection rate for rapes fell by a third from 1994 to 2006. So the Norwegian police in fact manage to collect the evidence to prosecute successfully in 13% of cases. Just to give some idea of the likely accuracy of their statistics.

Amnesty have some serious concerns about how rape in general is dealt with by the police and courts in Norway.

Here is a good analysis of how rape is reported/misreported in the press, including a section on how many press reports play on stereotypes that encourage xenophobia and racism.
 
So that's both butchers and bellend fleeing the thread rather than actually clarify their position on all this. Again. :)
 
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Here is a good analysis of how rape is reported/misreported in the press, including a section on how many press reports play on stereotypes that encourage xenophobia and racism.

Interesting stuff on Norway, eric. Unfortunately the link above doesn't work for me.
 
You think the cop from Norway is lying. Or at least, you're too scared to put forth your opinions on her reported figures.

so, you wont answer the question then. what a surprise. wriggle away little weasel
 
Right. More reality. But first an answer to a point made earlier by pk. Actually in 1987 there were at least two rape crisis centres in Oslo, one at a major hospital (for which I linked to statistics) and the DIXI centre.

Were there any others in Norway apart from in the capital?

The detection rate for rapes fell by a third from 1994 to 2006. So the Norwegian police in fact manage to collect the evidence to prosecute successfully in 13% of cases. Just to give some idea of the likely accuracy of their statistics.

Which explains the discrepancy in the figures you found and those of Oslo's department headed by Rohde... perhaps.

Amnesty have some serious concerns about how rape in general is dealt with by the police and courts in Norway.

Does the data support Rohde's figures in any way? Can Rohde's figures be considered potentially accurate?

Here is a good analysis of how rape is reported/misreported in the press, including a section on how many press reports play on stereotypes that encourage xenophobia and racism.

I can't see Rohde risking everything by going public with those stats without triple checking and verifying them... but I'll have a read of that data, ta.

It's possible, but unusual to say the least, to suggest that she would risk such a senior position with such bold stastistics if they were proven to be lies...
 
Historically, undocumented migrants have not been a concern for Norway. The country's geographic location is one reason, but the structure of its labor market has made it difficult for the undocumented to get jobs or benefit from the health and education systems without a national ID number. However, undocumented migrants have become a larger problem in the past decade, in part due to the opening of borders as a result of the Schengen accord.

Though little data is available on undocumented migrants in Norway, many undocumented migrants in Norway today are rejected asylum seekers who have yet to leave the country. In January and February of 2004, 233 illegal immigrants were stopped in Norway, as opposed to 109 interventions in the same period in 2003.

Smugglers or criminal networks may be involved in the transfer of as many as 80 percent of asylum seekers, and Norway has also become a transit country for migrants aiming to reach the United Kingdom or the United States.

http://www.migrationinformation.org/Feature/display.cfm?ID=307
 
dont respond for half an hour and i've fled! wow, you are desperate. :D

Yep. You fled. Turned on your heels. Scarpered. Vamosed. Hopped off.

And now you will doubtless return with some pithy insult and fail to say anything whatsoever of any relevance to the motivations of these gangs, because you simply cannot muster the balls to do anything else. :)
 
Right. More reality. But first an answer to a point made earlier by pk. Actually in 1987 there were at least two rape crisis centres in Oslo, one at a major hospital (for which I linked to statistics) and the DIXI centre.

The detection rate for rapes fell by a third from 1994 to 2006. So the Norwegian police in fact manage to collect the evidence to prosecute successfully in 13% of cases. Just to give some idea of the likely accuracy of their statistics.

Amnesty have some serious concerns about how rape in general is dealt with by the police and courts in Norway.

Here is a good analysis of how rape is reported/misreported in the press, including a section on how many press reports play on stereotypes that encourage xenophobia and racism.

Yeah, so about that "reality"...
 
Racialising crime lol

They were male and they were rapists.

Oooh, muslim rapists no less! Pakistani origin? Extra special ones. Especially for folk who pull themselves off over Murdoch's 'family' publications.
 
Racialising crime lol

They were male and they were rapists.

Oooh, muslim rapists no less! Pakistani origin? Extra special ones. Especially for folk who pull themselves off over Murdoch's 'family' publications.

Not racialising. A cultural mishap? A misplaced manner that needs addressing, redressing, or at the very least discussing.

You're not fucking thick, C66, don't tell me you're actually swallowing all the pissant accusations of racism.
 
Not racialising. A cultural mishap? A misplaced manner that needs addressing, redressing, or at the very least discussing.

You're not fucking thick, C66, don't tell me you're actually swallowing all the pissant accusations of racism.

Of course not. I'm not a huge fan of either rape or the more extreme interpretations of religion. I'm not a fan of religion at all particularly; but it can be used for a cause for good with some people. But, whatever.

But you can't deny that since year dot not all animals are equal. And a black rapist is much worse than a white one?

Because if not, then you haven't studied enough far right propaganda. So it's no surprise that when the daily mail relishes in stories like these that it's doing the BNP's job as a recruitment agent.

That isn't to say that it shouldn't be discussed because it should. But how many other rapists get the generalisation patter?

If you can admit out loud that all thieves in Liverpool reflect upon Liverpool, all slimey bankers ripping off the rest of the country somehow represent White bank workers, rapist taxi drivers are what all taxi drivers are like really - you know, the chats they have in the greasy spoon, yeah? - then you're onto a winner.

But taxi drivers weren't brought into the spotlight because of Worboys. All farmers weren't under suspicion because of West and his associates. Fuck, he fell into more brackets didn't he? He was white. He was from Gloucester. He was a builder. Why not look into sex crimes by builders or white men?

The reason is because you've racialised the victim. And perhaps rape is more horrifying if a experienced by a young white girl at the hands of a Pakistani man than any other scenario. Because that's what people are irate about. Perhaps some Muslim men do despise white women to the extent that they will treat them as sexual meat. But it makes them no different to any other rapist from any other culture throughout the world. Including, of course, that - race and religion aside - they're all men.
 
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