Garek
Living n ADDled chaos
What do people make of this?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/jan/11/nine-arrested-sex-abuse-rochdale
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/jan/11/nine-arrested-sex-abuse-rochdale
Weasel Straw strikes again (Pakistani men in Britain see white girls as "easy meat")
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pk
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Identical case to the one in Derby. Only this one was 13 year olds instead of 12 year olds.
Same methods, same grooming technique, same age range both perps and victims, same drugging and gang-raping of children.
Must be pure coincidence though. These muslim lads must have known the muslim lads who lived 55 miles away and copied their idea. Must have.
pk
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There was some confusion regarding the Norway statistic earlier of 65% or 6.5% ... based on figures from 2004.
Here are some more recent figures, from April 2010.
This short news clip details 41 brutal violent rapes of Norwegian women by “African and Turkish” men, and of the 41 investigated, 100% are committed by immigrants of particular backgrounds while none are committed by the indigenous Norwegian men.
According to the police chief of the Oslo district - "We see that many of them have a view on women, which means that when they want can take control over other people, mostly women".
Here are some more recent figures, from April 2010.
This short news clip details 41 brutal violent rapes of Norwegian women by “African and Turkish” men, and of the 41 investigated, 100% are committed by immigrants of particular backgrounds while none are committed by the indigenous Norwegian men.
According to the police chief of the Oslo district - "We see that many of them have a view on women, which means that when they want can take control over other people, mostly women".
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
And when are you going to explain your comment on page 2? Post #33.
pk
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Really? The Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation (NRK) is a fascist organisation? Funny, I always thought it was Norway's version of the BBC.
Are you able to find up to date rape stats on Norway?
Do you even give a fuck about this issue?
Anything of relevance to say on the topic, eh big man?
Or is this just bluster? I don't see anything in the clips that is fascistic - it may well be used and copied elsewhere to serve the agenda of a fascist blogger, but unless you're calling the link out as incorrect - or calling me a fascist - then you're point is pretty desperate isn't it? As for being context-free, hardly!!!
The only reason I used the vlad blogger clip is because it was subtitled, genius. It's OK, I don't expect you to pitch in and apologise for getting your facts wrong.
Here's the same video clip from NRK if it makes you feel better. You can do better than this. Comparing me to Jazzz, LOL!
http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/1.6567955
pk
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Found some more Norweigan stats - that oddly appear to back up the 65% figure that was allegedly a misprint... these are for Oslo alone.
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72.8% of rapists in 2007 had foreign background, 63.2% in 2004, 53% in 2001.
Considering that 23.8% of population in Oslo area (where most rapes happen) have foreign background, a foreigner is 8.55 times more likely to commit a rape crime.
Men of African background have increased their "share" the most, from 10% in 2001, 19.1% in 2004 and now 30.5% in 2007. This is partly because there are more Africans in gang rapes.
73% of victims in 2007 had Norwegian background.
http://www.politi.no/pls/idesk/docs/...tioslo2007.pdf
https://www.politi.no/
According to the report of rape in Oslo 2007 "72.8% of the perpetrators in the year had a different nationality background than Norwegian.
In a corresponding survey in 2004 the figure was 63.2%, and in 2001 was 53%.
These are figures for all rapes.
The proportion of foreign perpetrators of rape robbery was consistently higher.
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The reason that most of the stats are only available from dubious sites with clear racist agendas is that the original stat files appear to have been purged from official records.
I would suggest that televised interviews backing up the figures at least go to show that they were available on official sources at one time or another.
Does make one wonder why they were deleted/moved though...
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72.8% of rapists in 2007 had foreign background, 63.2% in 2004, 53% in 2001.
Considering that 23.8% of population in Oslo area (where most rapes happen) have foreign background, a foreigner is 8.55 times more likely to commit a rape crime.
Men of African background have increased their "share" the most, from 10% in 2001, 19.1% in 2004 and now 30.5% in 2007. This is partly because there are more Africans in gang rapes.
73% of victims in 2007 had Norwegian background.
http://www.politi.no/pls/idesk/docs/...tioslo2007.pdf
https://www.politi.no/
According to the report of rape in Oslo 2007 "72.8% of the perpetrators in the year had a different nationality background than Norwegian.
In a corresponding survey in 2004 the figure was 63.2%, and in 2001 was 53%.
These are figures for all rapes.
The proportion of foreign perpetrators of rape robbery was consistently higher.
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The reason that most of the stats are only available from dubious sites with clear racist agendas is that the original stat files appear to have been purged from official records.
I would suggest that televised interviews backing up the figures at least go to show that they were available on official sources at one time or another.
Does make one wonder why they were deleted/moved though...
pk
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Out of interest - since nobody is bothering to give an example of a religion MORE barbaric than islam - at what point would people accept that the statistics for street grooming and pimp gangs targetting children ARE over-representative?
80 percent?
90 percent?
100 percent?
That's a hell of a lot of kids that are to be messed up for life, if you need such a disproportionately massive figure to accept perhaps there really is a problem with islamic integration into comparably liberal and decadent western cities...
80 percent?
90 percent?
100 percent?
That's a hell of a lot of kids that are to be messed up for life, if you need such a disproportionately massive figure to accept perhaps there really is a problem with islamic integration into comparably liberal and decadent western cities...
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
the old aztec religion was pretty barbaric.
As was Christianity before it made some attempts towards reforming. Islam seems very stuck in the Dark Ages.
pk
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I don't know any Aztecs. Apart from Roddy Frame.
Good start though. Broke the awkward silence.
I get the distinct feeling a lot of people want me to shut up about this, the same type of people that yell words like "sexist" and "bigot" around the place.
The same people that have a problem admitting that perhaps traditional islamist thinking in regards to western women is completely incompatible with UK culture after all. Because they are terrified of being accused of some phobia.
Screw the victims, as long as they look all right-on and PC and culturally aware.
Bit of a shock, this cultural awareness stuff though, sometimes.
I welcome all stats to counter my argument. In fact I would really like to see some, as I am not entirely comfortable with the conclusions mine are pointing to at all.
pk
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If you think I've just "plucked" facts from thin air then you should have no problem at all countering them with facts of your own.
Unless you're just going for a weaselly personal attack just because you cannot find any such facts.
You know what's funny is - all the years reading this site, reading all the politicos banging on about strategies to combat the rise of the BNP, the EDL...
I'm here making it fucking easy for you.
If you can't counter my arguments, and you can see I'm addressing every point I possibly can, and shying away from none of the issues here, then you've no chance once the likes of Griffin and his pedophile mates get hold of it and use it for political capital, which it appears they have already (in spite of the two white men involved in the child rape being paid up BNP members).
So maybe it might be a good idea to get a little practice in with someone who has no intention of letting the BNP gain any position of influence? Just a thought.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
What a moronic comment. Did you miss the programme alst night? Where the copper (in ever so slightly muslim Blackburn) said that 80% of the people targetting and grooming young girls were white? That means less than 20% were muslim, and as 20% of the town is muslim, that meants muslims men are less likely to partake in such a vile practise.
But dont let tedious things like facts (or, heaven forfend!, thinking) could your burst of mindless bigotry.
Proper Tidy
Arsed
Yeah but what about Norway? What about Pakistan? I lived in Bradford you know. Love me.
pk
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Which copper - the copper in the car? Watching it now, again. His figure of 80 percent mentions NOTHING about targetting and grooming.
His figures were regarding child abuse cases in total.
Det Sgt Mark Whelan, Lancashire Constabulary.
"This is Whitton Park in Blackburn. Again it's an area where people can be taken that's out of public view. It's dark, it's open, and we check down here for example on occasions to see if children are in cars with adults when they shouldn't be.
In terms of who you're looking for, is there a profile, is there an obvious?
"No there isn't an obvious profile, we look at ... sexual exploitation is just another term for child abuse in my opinion.
"We don't look for specific types of ethnicity of children or offenders, we don't look for a specific age group of offenders, we look for people who are abusing children"
And what is the danger, if indeed you think there is a danger, in this sort of profile that's been built up recently?
"In our experience, if we only looked and only dealt with Asian offenders, we would have missed 80 percent of the work that we had to do this year.
But in the past you did miss people you think? Because your focus was on asian offenders
"No our focus wasn't on Asian offenders, our focus was on the crimes that we were seeing at that time.
But that's because we weren't particularly good at looking for the crimes in the first place."
So he's actually talking about child abuse on the whole, not specifically the grooming and gang/drug element.
And that figure tallies with the Lancashire statistics:
In the latest year for which we have data, Lancashire police arrested 627 people for sexual offences. 0.3% of these were Pakistanis. That’s two people. 85.5% were white British.
In Lancashire, there are 1,296,900 white Brits and 45,000 Pakistanis.
This means that 4.163 per 10,000 white Brits were arrested for a sex crime, compared to 0.44 Pakistanis.
If you’re a journalist, you might say that the chances of being arrested for a sex crime are nine times greater if you’re white than Pakistani.
If you’re a statistician, you might say they are 0.037 percentage points greater."
pk
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Hey - any chance of naming a religion more barbaric than islam, or are you just bottling out of that one having called me a cunt yesterday before flouncing off the thread?
Come on. Just name one. You afraid to answer your own questions?
Proper Tidy
Arsed
So youngsters in Lancashire are much more likely to be nonced by a white man than an asian man. Excellent work pk.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
yup, i couldn't be arsed to type it all out, so well done that lad.
Proper Tidy
Arsed
pk
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That would include uncles and care homes and all manner of nasty incest shit.
The topic we are discussing is the grooming and of children by asians to facilitate gang rape. Not overall child abuses.
As you well know.
Proper Tidy
Arsed
Cos some types of noncing are worse than others, of course. Especially if it's these dirty foreigners preying on our indigenous youth.
pk
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No, you are the thick fuck.
You pose a question - do you think islam is more barbaric than any other religion. I answer yes.
Now you try and wriggle out of answering the same question with this mealy mouth bullshit and think nobody will notice.
What other religion seeks to murder its critics in the name of god? Which other current religion proscribes laws from medieval ages?
Don't get mad just because you can't answer your own question, it makes you look like a complete cunt.
Proper Tidy
Arsed
No, you are the thick fuck.
You pose a question - do you think islam is more barbaric than any other religion. I answer yes.
Now you try and wriggle out of answering the same question with this mealy mouth bullshit and think nobody will notice.
What other religion seeks to murder its critics in the name of god? Which other current religion proscribes laws from medieval ages?
Don't get mad just because you can't answer your own question, it makes you look like a complete cunt.
Oh dear.
YouSir
Retired from Urban
No, you are the thick fuck.
You pose a question - do you think islam is more barbaric than any other religion. I answer yes.
Now you try and wriggle out of answering the same question with this mealy mouth bullshit and think nobody will notice.
What other religion seeks to murder its critics in the name of god? Which other current religion proscribes laws from medieval ages?
Don't get mad just because you can't answer your own question, it makes you look like a complete cunt.
From Buddhists to Christians via Rastas, Scientologists and every other fucker, some exponents of every religion behave like that. Here, have a starting point, first example of a few thousand you could find if you looked.
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