madzone
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Or until we start to be the hunted
Vegetarians! Why aren't you vegan?
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cesare
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Or until we start to be the hunted
Well unless xes's aliens arrive, we'll continue to prey on ourselves cos we're the planet's most efficient predator.
madzone
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Have you not seen Black Sheep?
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Have you not seen Black Sheep?
No, what's that?
madzone
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cesare
shady's dreams ♥
madzone
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It's all the bracken they ate, turned them funnyOooh! Can't imagine bovines as predators
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Probably formed an unholy alliance with the birds and stoats, then used them as assassins
I've been vegan for the past four years, having been vegetarian for about eight years before that. I feel a lot healthier, stronger and fitter since going vegan. From my own personal experience, I would say that the difficulties of going vegan are exaggerated generally. I think it would have been more difficult in the past when there were fewer alternatives available, but having said that I try not to eat too many of the processed replacemnet type products anyway. Sticking to a pretty simple diet based on fruit and vegetables can be pretty straightforward and cheap! I'm convinced that the health benefits of going vegan are huge. I feel less bloated, I get fewer colds and I've run three half marathons in the past few years, something I would have seriously doubted I could have done when I was younger.
One of the things I've noticed being vegan is how normally open-minded and politically aware people quite often turn into the fussy kid in school who wouldn't eat anything but jam sandwiches and Wotsits when soya milk or cheese is mentioned: 'Ugh its disgusting!' etc. Admittedly some of the more bizarre replacements (soya nuggets anyone?) are a bit dodgy/unnecessary, but soya milk is no more or less disgusting than a whole range of other food-stuffs. Fair enough if you don't like it but its really not that bad!
One of the things I've noticed being vegan is how normally open-minded and politically aware people quite often turn into the fussy kid in school who wouldn't eat anything but jam sandwiches and Wotsits when soya milk or cheese is mentioned: 'Ugh its disgusting!' etc. Admittedly some of the more bizarre replacements (soya nuggets anyone?) are a bit dodgy/unnecessary, but soya milk is no more or less disgusting than a whole range of other food-stuffs. Fair enough if you don't like it but its really not that bad!
madzone
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Soya ice cream is lush
Treehugger76
I'm also a Hobbit
Honey?
Honey!
its still an animal product in my eyes, especially since people are going in and taking it away from the hive....its natural job is food for the bees during winter but the honey that is taken away is usually replaced by a sugar/water solution which isn't as good for them.
so that cheap-ass jar of honey you got from Asda is the result of a whole load of hardworking bees being fucked over with a sugar/water solution and a pipette...
I dont see it being much different from taking milk away from baby cows, which is its natural job. its food for the baby cows but people decide they want it instead and so the exploitation starts....and yet a lot of people baulk at the thought of breast milk (not that I would drink breast milk now, I don't need to, I'm a grown up and I like soy milk but why is it less disgusting to drink milk from a cow than it is to drink it from your own species? exploitation must add to the flavour or something...)
Agreed with Madzone, especially Swedish Glace!! The chocolate one rocks
fredfelt
Mostly unknown member
I really like it in porridge. No problems with curdling.
fredfelt
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Quite a few different brands / types. Try a few to find what is best suited to your taste. There is quite a lot of difference in how sweet brands are.
pootle
little moran
I used to make my porridge by soaking it overnight and then microwaving. Never had any probs with soya milk
_angel_
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I think all vegetarians are selfish. If they come round to yours they want vegetarian food but if you go round theirs do they cook you something with meat in it? I think not
I cook meat for everyone.
Biddlybee
making knots with sticks
This is good news.. I'll give it a go tomorrow.I used to make my porridge by soaking it overnight and then microwaving. Never had any probs with soya milk
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
I'm a fairly recent convert to not eating animals, mostly on the grounds like I like little animals and therefore don't want to eat them/be cruel to them unneccesarily.
However, the more I read and learn about the dairy industry, the more I find it difficult to square my stance on not eating animals because of the cruelty element but still eating dairy when the dairy industry is pretty facking cruel and unpleasant
I've always been a bit wierd about milk and eggs, so cutting them out is not a problem. I've had soya milk on cereals etc for years now, and I can't eat eggs when they are in their basic form eg scrambled, fried, boiled etc but I can choke down milk and eggs when it's in chocolate or cake, wierdly enough
So fellow vegetarians, how do you square it? And vegans, it looks like hard work being vegan. Eating out has to be quite a nightmare I'd imagine...and no cheese! Is it as simple as what do you care about more - the animals or the cheese?
NB - this is not a thread for people to go on about ridic it is to be veggie so save it as I'm pretty fixed on being a veggie and telling me how delicious the little animals are ain't going to change that! So save it, thank you please.
Not read the intervening thread, but that was exactly my logic for going vegan around 1996 (after being veggie for about 12 years before that). It was thinking about the dairy industry and how you can't separate out the bits that kill animals and those that just take their milk. I had also got a bit quesy about eating eggs particularly.
Can be a nightmare eating out, if you stick to your principles, though I tend not to fuss if I get some pasta and tomato based dish (about whether the pasta had egg in it). Buying stuff at supermarkets has got a lot easier though and you pretty much remember what is 'kosher' and what isnt.
Clair De Lune
Apocalypse cocktails
I would like to become vegan really but I don't know how I could live without cheese on toast and milk in my coffee. Soya milk is fine for most things and things like soya dessert are lush but curdled coffee is not a good thing, plus it tastes wrong. The other reason is I won't force my diet on my kids but if cheese and milk were around I would not be able to resist.
crustychick
doo-woop-de-doo
try a really good quality coffee and you'll wonder why you ever ruined coffee with weirdy cow juice in the first place!!!
Same, would have to be a vegan if I didn't eat meat! The only eggs I eat now are from my mammy's hens, I have lactose free milk for cooking and stuff, but don't drink it, don't eat cereal and take my tea/coffee black, don't bother with cheese substitutes either, soya and that crap is a waste of time. Plus veggies seem to get quite tubby init, all that cheese... Sour!!!
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
I think you're more lactose intolerant than me cos I do cook with some butter and eat a bit of cheese ... but too much an I'm retching, feel proper ill. When button came off his 5 year vegan diet it weren't the fillet steak that affected his digestion, twas the cheese riddled pizza.
Apparently western people smell like sour milk to eastern people that don't eat much dairy. Anyone else heard that?
I dunno tbh, I just stopped eating it, I cook with butter, (free range/organic) I think higher the fat content then lower the lactose, but I really don't get on with cheese at all from what I can remember, couldn't bring myself to try a piece now to find out, even looking at it makes me feel ill lol.
I've heard the same thing about smelling like sour milk, I bet it's true.
coincidentally I watched a programme on my catch up tv which was called 'britains most disgusting food' and it was about dairy, processed cheese containing only 6% and milk with pus and blood in it from the cows having mastitis... euuurrrghhh.....
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
That dairy industry thing is more sick than battery hens. I used to live up the road from a chicken farm and when they cleaned that out I was gagging from the smell. But at least with a chicken farm the chickens and eggs are fucking dire, but you don't have that pus & antibiotics to eat/drink in milk and milk products which people don't even realise.
pootle
little moran
This! I deffo put on weight when I went veggie, cos I was having cheese every facking day!
Am currently just trying to cut back on the dairy and do things bit by bit.
