Urban v's the Commentariat

[Idris2002]

Did not well-known racist singer Morrisey pen the ditty "November spawned a monster"?

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Staggers sez movember is racist http://www.newstatesman.com/2013/11/why-movember-isnt-all-its-cracked-be

Jesus Christ on a fucksticle!

 

[BigTom]

I think November is a racist month tbh

PD needs to claim that Vember is a racist term, and that the month of No Vember is a celebration of historic racist pogroms against whichever group we can make some tenuous link to with the word Vember.

That article is just fantastic. Has a point about the reaction to women not shaving but everything else is just

 

[emanymton]

Jesus Christ on a fucksticle!

We can agree that racist or not Movember is a load of fucking shite though, right?

 

[frogwoman]

i think movember is a load of shite but racist?

 

[J Ed]

Someone in the comments suggested that the next article about sober october (I guess they mean dry January) is just mocking Muslims lol

 

[J Ed]

After Miley, those criticising Miley, Lily Allen, that other one that sang a song in a kimono or something the AWL and its front groups and now Movember... who next will fall victim to the vampire's castle?

 

[FridgeMagnet]

The idea is that men, on the whole, visit their doctor less frequently, are more cagey about discussing health issues with friends and family, and lead less healthy lifestyles. Undoubtedly, these factors combine to contribute to a shorter male life expectancy, which is thought to be in large part due to higher rates of heart and vascular disease (interestingly, not the sex-specific diseases that Movember targets). If there is to be a male-focused health campaign, shouldn't it be centred on tackling the root causes of this gender disparity? Shouldn't the campaign instead be focused on deconstructing the strict gender norms that keep so many men suffering silently? Shouldn't it be built around teaching men to self-examine for lumps, challenging taboos surrounding psychiatric illness, and encouraging men to minimise drinking, smoking and red meat consumption, all of which have been associated with increased risk of heart disease and cancer?

Sorry, is the answer not "yes" to this? And Movember is a ridiculous corporate parody now.

 

[Lo Siento.]

Sorry, is the answer not "yes" to this? And Movember is a ridiculous corporate parody now.

A small nugget of truth in the article doesn't make the rest of it any less absurd (and countet productive)

 

[revol68]

Sorry, is the answer not "yes" to this? And Movember is a ridiculous corporate parody now.

That bit would be fair enough, but hanging it off the "sexier" click bait hook of it being racist etc is just fucking dreadful.

At what point did being left wing move from being about believing in a radical transformation of the world to this navel gazing sort of drivel? These people aren't radicals they are just professional craic vacuums who define militancy by their ability to be offended by anything. They could find power disparities in their porridge yet seem blind to their Oxbridge educations.

 

[revol68]

In northern ireland all the jokes are about Movember taches making you look like an 80's provo/RUC man.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

That bit would be fair enough, but hanging it off the "sexier" click bait hook of it being racist etc is just fucking dreadful.

At what point did being left wing move from being about believing in a radical transformation of the world to this navel gazing sort of drivel? These people aren't radicals they are just professional craic vacuums who define militancy by their ability to be offended by anything. They could find power disparities in their porridge yet seem blind to their Oxbridge educations.

At the moment it realised that it was powerless to enact meaningful social change.

 

[Bakunin]

it must have been a quiet evening in the bar when that was written.

Either that or the morning after a particularly good night in the bar.

Staggers is to journalism what William Shatner is to popular music.

 

[Pickman's model]

Either that or the morning after a particularly good night in the bar.

Staggers is to journalism what William Shatner is to popular music.

unfair to william shatner

 

[Pickman's model]

In northern ireland all the jokes are about Movember taches making you look like an 80's provo/RUC man.

or like sinn fein's mitchell mclaughlin

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Sorry, is the answer not "yes" to this? And Movember is a ridiculous corporate parody now.

I agree completely with the quote you gave there, although I think if I framed it in those words whilst speaking to my mates I'd probably just be taken the piss out of and labeled as the guy who wears dresses at the weekend. Like it or not, the very same gender roles you speak of are a block to getting through on that level, and so making it all a bit of a laugh like movember does can break down that barrier and lead to other, more general conversations about these issues. And yes, more focus needs to be on heart-disease etc, but you start where you can and move one step at a time, I guess. Maybe it's just pragmatism - not very radical or transformative, but there it is.

 

[rekil]

Can anyone recommend some good English-language accounts to follow on #ukraine?

Proper journalism.

Can anyone be bothered sending her a link to the relevant threads here? Or should she be left to cheer on the far-right.

 

[love detective]

wait until she posts a picture with a load of cuddly nazi flags in it, then tell her

 

[butchersapron]

Yes, time, bide it.

 

[Idris2002]

"Revenge is a dish best eaten cold" - old Klingon saying.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

unfortunately she is probably reading this anyway but lets hope not

 

[butchersapron]

old Klingon saying.

Sick is a dish best eaten cold

We make our own rules.

 

[The Pale King]

Gazpacho is a dish best eaten cold.

 

[butchersapron]

Gazpacho is a dish best eaten cold.

Which then makes you sick. The circle of sick.

 

[rekil]

Sick Unity

 

[Idris2002]

Which then makes you sick.

Thus, the cosmic ballet continues.

 

[J Ed]

So when will the Guardian pick up on the issue not being so simple exactly?

 

[andysays]

So when will the Guardian pick up on the issue not being so simple exactly?

Sorry, are we talking about the Movember issue, the Ukraine issue or the Gazpacho issue?

Or are they all three fundamentally one issue when then correct dialectic is applied?

 

[J Ed]

Ukraine.

Now I'm imagining some sort of borscht-gazpacho hybrid being sucked through a moustache - yuck!

 

[DotCommunist]

Gazpacho is a dish best eaten cold.

warm with crusty bread

this will continue