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not been part of the anrcho-lifestylist bubble for a while, not since being expelled from the posh boys club ;)

Laurie penny has never said anything about me or my class. I don't think she ever will. There is on the other hand a surfeit of "class struggle" anarchists who are infinitely posher and more privileged than laurie penny who have never stopped telling me what it means to be working class.

Whether you accept what they tell you is up to you.
Personally I always used to use logic ("how does your 3 years of squatting while on a trust fund compare to my lifetime of poverty, Tarquin, how are you qualified to judge?") followed by a jab in the bread-basket if Tarquin came out with any anarcho-vanguardist crap or anything remotely patronising. :)
And they were always Tarquins, not Jocastas. :D
 
i saw an intersectionalist diagram telling me which identities i need to respect, that managed to completely miss out class and race but include otherkin.

in what world do these people live in where class and race oppression don't exist but pretending to be a dragon is a serious source of oppression that needs to be respected and adjusted for. ffs.

if you think you're a dragon, and you're not 6, then you're either mentally ill, in which case you need help and support to stop thinking you're a dragon, or you're taking the piss out of peoples good nature and need a slap.
 
i saw an intersectionalist diagram telling me which identities i need to respect, that managed to completely miss out class and race but include otherkin.

in what world do these people live in where class and race oppression don't exist but pretending to be a dragon is a serious source of oppression that needs to be respected and adjusted for. ffs.

if you think you're a dragon, and you're not 6, then you're either mentally ill, in which case you need help and support to stop thinking you're a dragon, or you're taking the piss out of peoples good nature and need a slap.

otherkin can't actually be a thing though can it? I thought it was made up? Surely these people don't exist in real life outside the internet and perhaps D and D roleplays which have been taken a bit too far?
 
From Wikipedia

Some otherkin (such as elvenkin) claim they are allergic to iron (and products of modern technology), whilst other otherkin (such as dragonkin) claim that having no allergies is a sign of being an otherkin.[6] Some otherkin also claim to be especially empathic and attuned to nature.[6] Some claim to be able to shapeshift mentally or astrally—meaning that they experience the sense of being in their particular form while not actually changing physically

Sounds to me like those dragonkin are oppressing the elvenkin.

Quick someone tight a New Statesman article.
 
it sounds like these people need help rather than intersectionaltiy
As el-ahrairah said some of these people need help, but I think most of them are just talking the piss/engaging in a bit of fantasy. A bit like live action roleplay I guess.


Course I could be wrong, in which case I fee bad for taking the piss.
 
As el-ahrairah said some of these people need help, but I think most of them are just talking the piss/engaging in a bit of fantasy. A bit like live action roleplay I guess.


Course I could be wrong, in which case I fee bad for taking the piss.
Maybe I am wrong, they have specific regulations about not role playing.

I need to step away from the laptop NOW!
 
Whether you accept what they tell you is up to you.
Personally I always used to use logic ("how does your 3 years of squatting while on a trust fund compare to my lifetime of poverty, Tarquin, how are you qualified to judge?") followed by a jab in the bread-basket if Tarquin came out with any anarcho-vanguardist crap or anything remotely patronising. :)
And they were always Tarquins, not Jocastas. :D

good advice. Except they are usually called jack or james or john. They've all got 'web skills' and are not middle class but "economically working class", they mockney up their accents and pretend they never went to school...
 
fwiw, i know a lad who's a furry. he's ok, if a bit weird. it's just an odd kink though, not a mental illness. and he appreciates how ridiculous it is too...
But these people don't just like dressing up as a cat or whatever, they believe they are (or where) cats or elves or dragons. Doesn't really seem to be a specifically sexual thing either.

I wonder if I could convince them I am the reincarnation of an orc. I always thought they represented the industrial working class in lord of the rings.
 
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good advice. Except they are usually called jack or james or john. They've all got 'web skills' and are not middle class but "economically working class", they mockney up their accents and pretend they never went to school...

The last time a Farquhar boasted to me about their web skills (early 2000s, I think) it turned out that what he meant was "I can put together a web page or site using a site-making programme". He didn't have a clue what I meant when I asked him whether he put a commented out announcement of which iteration of HTML or XML he was using at the head of the page, or how to manually insert and position content within a page, just how to drag and drop stuff. And yeah, I'm aware that it's a bit snobby of me to expect people to have known HTML. :D
 
actually, i do know a few women who claim to be fairies. they probably are a bit mental tbh. but again, i doubt they would consider themselves oppressed.
cottin4.jpg

a woman conversing with a fairy recently
 
Via FB FoFs I've learnt a few new notches for our wheel today:

Vidaudism (how vidism and audism oppress deafblind folks, vidism[1] + audism = vidaudism) is real. Let's not say that the word isn't real.

[1] oppression of blind/low vision folks
 
Regarding articles on Syria seemingly free of any actual politics...

http://internationalsocialistnetwork.org/index.php/ideas-and-arguments/war-and-imperialism

For over two years, Britain, the USA and France have stood by, refusing to deliver defensive anti-aircraft and anti-tank weapons to the progressive and democratic components of the opposition, for fear that the toppling of the Assad regime may extend and deepen the revolution which started in Egypt and Tunisia in 2011. At the same time, they allowed Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states to support Islamist reactionary forces, in their attempt at transforming the Syrian revolution into a sectarian war. They know that the victory of the revolution in Syria could spread across the region constituting a major threat to their regimes.

We continue oppose with the utmost determination any foreign direct military intervention in Syria, be it that of the USA, Britain, France and their allies or that of Iran and its allies. Those within the rebellion who support this are making a big mistake. We believe that the people of Syria should be enabled to free themselves from the Assad dictatorship. For their struggle to be successful, they should receive all the necessary material aid, including arms and humanitarian assistance, without conditions imposed by the West.

What? Does anyone actually understand this? This is so convoluted and odd... is their position actually that Britain, France and the US should be chastised for NOT backing (real or IMO to some extent imagined) democratic forces in Syria? This stuff is just so naive, how do people get to the point where they argue things like this?

If you trust the US, Britain and France to arm factions within the opposition they favour (real or imagined in this article) why wouldn't you trust them to just do a bit of bombing themselves?
 
But these people don't just like dressing up as a cat or whatever, they believe they are (or where) cats or elves or dragons. Doesn't really seem to be a specifically sexual thing either.

I wonder if I could convince them I am the reincarnation of an orc. I always thought they represented the industrial working class in lord of the rings.


The Last Ringbearer
 
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