Urban v's the Commentariat

[butchersapron]

Ok, I'm out. I just needed to see some of the shite firsthand. I'm sure some of you genuinely believe in equality for all and that in order to achieve that, you have to level out the playing field by calling out the inconsistencies. I am sorry you cannot understand the jargon but I do and it's not my fault I can even tho I'm not the educated middle class women you have dismissed me as previously. This entitlement emanating from various individuals on here; have a think on that maybe?

Please make sure to update us on whether you were racist about black people and trackies or not.

 

[Sam Ambreen]

But the thing is, in your hour here, you've contradicted yourself, lied, ignored most of the points being made, and failed to even attempt to develop a rounded argument that makes sense beyond the narrow confines of your blog readers (ie people who largely agree with you anyway. The easy ones). You dismiss people without knowing a thing about them, and, whats worst, you do it really really badly. You can write more than 140 characters n here you know, which is what you need to do to develop a plausible argument.

You don't think I'm used to being perceived in this way?

 

[fogbat]

Seriously, have a ganders at Gerry Adams on Twitter and his adoring fanbase. Almost impossible to believe the IRA were ever a thing. Terrorist means Muslim these days, pure and simple. Next you'll be telling me my culture has been oppressing your culture for the last 800 yrs a la Ciaron Cunt O Reilly cos I "don't look brown enough to be Asian".

You're British, aren't you? It has.

 

[TruXta]

But the thing is, in your hour here, you've contradicted yourself, lied, ignored most of the points being made, and failed to even attempt to develop a rounded argument that makes sense beyond the narrow confines of your blog readers (ie people who largely agree with you anyway. The easy ones). You dismiss people without knowing a thing about them, and, whats worst, you do it really really badly. You can write more than 140 characters n here you know, which is what you need to do to develop a plausible argument.

This is depressingly similar to what happened when Laurie stopped by.

 

[phildwyer]

and capital hasn't orgainsed labour along racist or sexist lines, pink colour work, the exclusion of women from the wage form and how even now this leads to traditionally female jobs being lower paid. If you wish to flatten the contradiction between capital and labour to such an extent that's your problem and as such I can see why you might think intersectionality is a handy addition but really all you are doing is adding together two impoverished theories.

I think the contradiction between capital and labor has become internalized. Which means there's another politics of subjectivity available apart from identity politics.

 

[belboid]

You don't think I'm used to being perceived in this way?

what way? I'm sorry, but I dont understand your comment

 

[Sam Ambreen]

Please make sure to update us on whether you were racist about black people and trackies or not.

I will definitely think about this. But you won't.

 

[Bakunin]

This is depressingly similar to what happened when Laurie stopped by.

'Thank you. Drive through...'

 

[belboid]

This is depressingly similar to what happened when Laurie stopped by.

she lasted 63 posts. It's gonna be close!

 

[Sam Ambreen]

what way? I'm sorry, but I dont understand your comment

You've said exactly the same things most critics of intersectionality do. I'm one person responding to lots of you and you're gonna beat me round the head with my inconsistencies? Give me strength.

 

[butchersapron]

I will definitely think about this. But you won't.

I already did. I reached my conclusion pretty quickly. It was well dodgy but not driven by racial hate, just laziness.

 

[startalk]

But the thing is, in your hour here, you've contradicted yourself, lied, ignored most of the points being made, and failed to even attempt to develop a rounded argument that makes sense beyond the narrow confines of your blog readers (ie people who largely agree with you anyway. The easy ones). You dismiss people without knowing a thing about them, and, whats worst, you do it really really badly. You can write more than 140 characters n here you know, which is what you need to do to develop a plausible argument.

It's like she's not even taking urban75 seriously

 

[Sam Ambreen]

Doesn't matter what I say, your minds were already made up.

 

[butchersapron]

You've said exactly the same things most critics of intersectionality do. I'm one person responding to lots of you and you're gonna beat me round the head with my inconsistencies? Give me strength.

Be consistent and you'll beat many posters with one swoop.

 

[belboid]

You've said exactly the same things most critics of intersectionality do. I'm one person responding to lots of you and you're gonna beat me round the head with my inconsistencies? Give me strength.

sorry, but that doesn't explain what you meant at all.

And pointing out inconsistencies should be a useful objective for anyone serious about fighting oppression. Its one of the ways we learn.

 

[butchersapron]

It's like she's not even taking urban75 seriously

lol. I think that's the term. Come on regging the name and posting in five minutes.

 

[TruXta]

It's like she's not even taking urban75 seriously

Au contraire, she's taking it too seriously.

 

[Bakunin]

Doesn't matter what I say, your minds were already made up.

So, about skin colour and veracity...

 

[Dexter Deadwood]

Doesn't matter what I say, your minds were already made up.

You said that at the beginning.

 

[Sam Ambreen]

You said that at the beginning.

yup

 

[TruXta]

Doesn't matter what I say, your minds were already made up.

And thanks for putting words in our mouths and knowing what we think. It's great, saves us the bother.

 

[el-ahrairah]

If we all chant, "Helen Lewis" three times, do you think that she will magically turn up?

please no

 

[belboid]

You said that at the beginning.

and she still thinks it. Which must prove she was right. Or something.

 

[revol68]

Seriously, have a ganders at Gerry Adams on Twitter and his adoring fanbase. Almost impossible to believe the IRA were ever a thing. Terrorist means Muslim these days, pure and simple. Next you'll be telling me my culture has been oppressing your culture for the last 800 yrs a la Ciaron Cunt O Reilly cos I "don't look brown enough to be Asian".

Sorry but are you for real? Have you just dismissed the history of anti irish racism, the troubles and sectarianism on the basis of Gerry Adams experience?

I'm not one for playing the oppressed paddy card but just for a second imagine someone dismissed anti asian racism on the basis that everyone loves Konnie Huq, or that islamophobia doesn't exist after Mo Farah won gold?

For someone trained in the call out culture of intersectionality you are very very poor at it.

 

[Sam Ambreen]

Well, how do you want to play this? With honesty? Or double standards?

 

[andysays]

Doesn't matter what I say, your minds were already made up.

You said that at the beginning.

One might almost think her mind was already made up...

 

[Sam Ambreen]

Sorry but are you for real? Have you just dismissed the history of anti irish racism, the troubles and sectarianism on the basis of Gerry Adams experience?

I'm not one for playing the oppressed paddy card but just for a second imagine someone dismissed anti asian racism on the basis that everyone loves Konnie Huq, or that islamophobia doesn't exist after Mo Farah won gold?

For someone trained in the call out culture of intersectionality you are very very poor at it.

Doesn't feel good does it? To be undermined/dismissed?

 

[butchersapron]

Sorry but are you for real? Have you just dismissed the history of anti irish racism, the troubles and sectarianism on the basis of Gerry Adams experience?

I'm not one for playing the oppressed paddy card but just for a second imagine someone dismissed anti asian racism on the basis that everyone loves Konnie Huq, or that islamophobia doesn't exist after Mo Farah won gold?

For someone trained in the call out culture of intersectionality you are very very poor at it.

Get it right - double gold.

 

[Sam Ambreen]

And thanks for putting words in our mouths and knowing what we think. It's great, saves us the bother.

Tit. For. Twat.

 

[sim667]

I actually follow and have read some of sams stuffand follow her on twitter, she makes some good comments and assessments, but then sometimes something get spouted out and you just kind of go