Bannerrefuggee
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Let us see where it stops.
Ukraine and the Russian invasion, Feb 2022 - tangentially related crap
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Nikkormat
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A report by the German Council on Foreign Relations states similar: Preventing the Next War; Mark Galeotti gives a critique in his podcast In Moscow's Shadows: Putin's Coming Back!
Regardless of the potential for US overstretch, I think a significant question is whether future US governments can be relied upon to honour NATO commitments in Europe.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Tbh I think your German article is having a laugh suggesting that the Russian army can be so swiftly reconstituted and trained when we know that many of the people who would do the leading and training of the force have been killed or simply aren't there - see eg NCOs: America Has Them, China Wants Them, Russia is Struggling Without Them. We know the strategic leadership of the present and future Russian army has received disproportionate losses - all those generals and colonels. For me, the greatest threat is rather Chinese ambitions which have the potential to make today's contretemps in the Ukraine look like a sideshow.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
'the UK and most NATO allies have been understandably preoccupied with the....... the sudden explosion of violence in the Middle East.' ?
To whom do you think China is a threat?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
To whom quoth the Prof
Among others -
Taiwan
The Philippines
Vietnam
The United States
Australia
The United Kingdom
Malaysia
To whom quoth the Prof
Among others -
Taiwan
The Philippines
Vietnam
The United States
Australia
The United Kingdom
Malaysia
What nonsense you spout! China is a threat to its immediate neighbors and to nobody else.
So you think China is a threat to Russia?
gosub
~#
you forgot China CCP aint doing the Chinese any favoursTo whom quoth the Prof
Among others -
Taiwan
The Philippines
Vietnam
The United States
Australia
The United Kingdom
Malaysia
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
So you consider them a threat to Russia. Perhaps you might outline your thoughts on the subject, tho I doubt them cogent. Also as you're a keen observer of international relations I thought you would have seen this and similar stories Cyber attacks against key US infrastructure continue, but this time its China
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
No, no i didn't.
No I don't. I think China wants to be allowed to grow peacefully, and is willing to share prosperity. The danger I see is that as usual the USA will apply the zero-sum theory of possessive individualism to foreign relations, conclude that there can only be one top dog, and take measures to prevent China's growth by force, thus bringing human history to its conclusion.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Just a minute ago you said China was a threat to its immediate neighbours. Now you deny it.
gosub
~#
By peacefully I presume you mean expanding its territory one piece at a time
Even in cases of border disputes and territorial claims, China always prefers to resolve its disputes peacefully. In marked contrast to the USA, which resorts to military force at the drop of a hat.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Belt and road, it's all about the altruism
8ball
Merr xmas...
Non-militarism =/= altruism.
It's not about altruism, but war isn't in their interests. It's in the interests of Lockheed-Martin and Blackwater.
gosub
~#
no it doesnt Its built bases on the wrong side of the river with India, ignored the UN on the Philippines, gone mental at Hong Kong for holding umbrellas, invaded Vietnam at one point and Tibet and is currently in the process of upgrading its armed services, upgrading using tech ripped off from other countries
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
I was referring to your ridiculous belief that China simply wants to share their prosperity.
I have first-hand experience of how they've done that in Laos. And it ain't pretty. And it ain't sharing.
China has 5 military bases in foreign countries. The UK has 32. The USA has 85.
There's no comparison between the old imperialism and the new:
List of countries with overseas military bases - Wikipedia
Smangus
comatose at a desk
In this age of cynicism I find your naivety rather touching.
gosub
~#
fine so don't make one. China, like Russia with its Wagner group has adopted the Blackwater model of new imperialism. Loads of Chinese 'security' in Africa these days that doesn't show up on wikipedia. I blame Col Oli North, at least old school had some transparency and accountabilityChina has 5 military bases in foreign countries. The UK has 32. The USA has 85.
There's no comparison between the old imperialism and the new:
List of countries with overseas military bases - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Lol
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
The US has rather more than 85 overseas bases. You just have difficulty understanding the words you look at.China has 5 military bases in foreign countries. The UK has 32. The USA has 85.
There's no comparison between the old imperialism and the new:
List of countries with overseas military bases - Wikipedia
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
He's going for all out shitposting before the inevitable ban
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
"We refuse to be summoned anywhere by Russia. Czechia will not serve the lie-poisoned propaganda of the aggressor. When Russia wants to discuss the withdrawal of its occupying troops at the Security Council, we will be happy to come." - Jan Lipavský, Czech Minister of Foreign Affairs
The Czech Minister's reaction to the Deputy Ambassador of Moscow to the UN Dmitry Polyansky, who demanded the presence of the Czech Republic at the meeting of the UN Security Council today at 10:00 p.m., which Moscow called because of the alleged Ukrainian shelling of Belgorod.
The Czech Minister's reaction to the Deputy Ambassador of Moscow to the UN Dmitry Polyansky, who demanded the presence of the Czech Republic at the meeting of the UN Security Council today at 10:00 p.m., which Moscow called because of the alleged Ukrainian shelling of Belgorod.
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