taffboy gwyrdd
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If I'd given an indication that it is then I suppose your question may have some point. I didn't.
It serves a purpose of summarising last years reactionary nonsense and hate.
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If I'd given an indication that it is then I suppose your question may have some point. I didn't.
It serves a purpose of summarising last years reactionary nonsense and hate.
butchersapron
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brogdale
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Well, by posting a link without any comment it wasn't really possible to discern any particular indication about why you had shared it. So asking if you thought such blogs were an effective response to the rise of UKIP did seem to have some point.
And you do seem to have answered the question in the negative.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Laziness, ignorance or stupidity, or all three in taffboy's case.
brogdale
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Al Murray has announced that he is to stand for FUKP against Farage in South Thanet in the GE. I assume that he feels that he will reduce Farage's chance of winning by taking some voters that might have voted for UKIP?
I'm not at all sure that the Thanet UKIP demographic will necessarily be that receptive to Murray.
http://thepublandlord.com/
I'm not at all sure that the Thanet UKIP demographic will necessarily be that receptive to Murray.
http://thepublandlord.com/
butchersapron
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Private school oxbridge footlights ultra-posho. What's not to connect with?
brogdale
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So posh I'd have thought he'd be a labour supporter? Obviously not, though; he could well sink their chances in this 3-way marginal.
krink
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come on, be fair, not all of these bloggers n tweeters call them fascists, some call them nazis
I can't imagine him getting more than the Monster Raving Loony vote which won't necerserily come from LabourSo posh I'd have thought he'd be a labour supporter? Obviously not, though; he could well sink their chances in this 3-way marginal.
brogdale
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You're probably right, but...I can't help feeling that his candidature could potentially help Farage get over the line, particularly if Lab were to be the nearest challenger. All the polling suggests South Thanet is something of 3-way marginal and, if UKIP do generate some momentum it's likely to be the vermin that will feel most damage, so it is conceivable that Lab might be the way to stop Farage. There's always the chance that Murray might pick up enough 'usual' Lab voters to see Farage home; remember that (although different circumstances) Ester Rantzen got nearly 2000 votes in Luton in 2010!
Although it's pretty obvious that Murray is presenting himself as a UKIP spolier I can't see that many of the older UKIP demographic will warm to him; I reckon he'd likely absorb more younger/youngish voters that statistically are more likely Lab.
All in all, cheap publicity for Murray (£500) and likely to help one of the right parties of capital secure the seat.
nah he won't get more than 150 votes imo - which admittedly could be enough to tip the balance in such a tight race but I think it will be UKIP and Labours to lose - IE either party will lose because of their own mistakes rather than him, and the votes are more likely to be traded between the two.
The only thing that might give him a boost is former Libdems seeing him as a good and liberalish protest vote.
The only thing that might give him a boost is former Libdems seeing him as a good and liberalish protest vote.
brogdale
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I hope you're right, but I fear that some of the electorate of "Planet Thanet" might be a little more receptive to Murray's schtick than we realise.
bemused
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I was toying with voting for UKIP as I don't like any of the major parties and wanted to vote for the one that annoyed them the most. However, since seeing him drone on about immigration creating Muslim enclaves he's turned out to be a bigger wanker than I initially took him for. I'm an awful softy that tries to assume 99% of the population are decent humans, meaning I step on my cock a lot.
So now I'm voting Green or whichever Jesus party is on the ticket ... can't go wrong with the baby Jesus.
So now I'm voting Green or whichever Jesus party is on the ticket ... can't go wrong with the baby Jesus.
brogdale
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YouGov polling indicating those intending to vote UKIP are most anti-semitic....
https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.n...gnAgainstAntisemitismResults_MergedFile_W.pdf
https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.n...gnAgainstAntisemitismResults_MergedFile_W.pdf
bemused
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Howe do you answer don't know to any of those questions?
brogdale
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Rather worryingly I suppose that means 'rather not say'/shy anti-semites?
according to yougov's highly entertaining profiling website al murray's pub landlord fans are most likely to be male, aged 40-59, social grade C2DE (skilled working class / working class / non-working), very right wing, working in transport and logistics / military and defence / real estate and property, and with less than £125 spare a month.
nigel farage's fans, on the other hand, are mostly likely to be male, aged 60+, social grade C2DE (skilled working class / working class / non-working), markedly right wing, working in engineering / military and defence / transport and logistics, and with £1k or more spare a month. so a bit older, and a bit richer, but otherwise...
should be interesting
nigel farage's fans, on the other hand, are mostly likely to be male, aged 60+, social grade C2DE (skilled working class / working class / non-working), markedly right wing, working in engineering / military and defence / transport and logistics, and with £1k or more spare a month. so a bit older, and a bit richer, but otherwise...
should be interesting
The only result in there that surprised me was that London produces the highest proportion of candidate-antisemitic* responses to each of the questions.
* I'm not convinced that the questions are detecting only antisemitism. "Jews' loyalty to Israel makes them less loyal to Britain than other British people" bucks the trend of increasing anti-Semitism with age for the other questions... and the actions of the state of Israel are arguably contrary to the interests of people in Britain...
butchersapron
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So 36 grand for that ad. That's the claim anyway. Sort of advertising him and his management would be forking out for next months 44 date 20th anniversary tour with a brand new show starting next month anyway isn't it?
gosub
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If you are going to advertise a tour, put where you are playing and when. Commonsense.
Another Oxbridge graduate enters the political arena, probably a multimillionaire too
butchersapron
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36k ratecard. advertising ratecards are about as reliable as political manifestos.
Since when did a political party have views? Surely you mean policies?
bemused
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You've got to have some shitty views if you won't own up to them in a anonymous poll.
brogdale
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Not strictly anonymous, though...it was sampled from their own panel-base. And yes, some people harbour very shitty views.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Defection to the tories.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...jad-Bashir-defects-to-Conservative-Party.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...jad-Bashir-defects-to-Conservative-Party.html
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